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Nico who? Sweden's Andreas Almgren solos a 12:44.27 European Record in Stockholm

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We merged two threads on the same topic and kept the one started by Rojo as Rojo's was started first and its his website. The 2nd thread was titled, "Random Swede runs 12:44 to smack the Africans and set new European record!?"

  • The Magic Coach J.S

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    3 months ago 07/04/2025 2:00am EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    If the claim is being made that Almgren is only faster over certain distances than Ingebrigtsen because he has trained for those distances then the same thing can be claimed about Ingebrigtsen: he is faster than Almgren over other distances because he has trained for those distances. Indeed the excuse for Ingebrigtsen's poor showing over the HM is because he wasn't trained for the distance.

    Specialisation is a poor argument for explaining why Almgren has superior times to Ingebrigtsen over certain distances; the argument cuts both ways.

    I have followed the career of my countryman Almgren over a decade now. He has faster times than Jakob at 400m and 800m . Actually the right answer to why Jakob has faster times at 1500m - 3000m than Andreas so far is that Jakob has so far specialised at 1500m- 5000m and Andreas 5000m- half marathon.

    Coach J.S 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪

  • qrrr

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    3 months ago 07/04/2025 3:38am EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    Koltrast wrote:

    We can go back to the 90s, with Haile Gebrselassie running a faster 5000 than Farah in 1995 and Paul Tergat running a faster half marathon than Farah in 1998. Did they have better shoes and training than Farah did? Or were Alberto Salazars drugs not up to par compared to what they were serving in the 90s?

    I've forgotten what you are talking about. It no longer interests me.

    When your ignorance is exposed you run away with your tail between your legs.

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    Armstronglivs

    Member since 10/05/2018.

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    3 months ago 07/04/2025 8:05am EDT
    re: The Magic Coach J.S

    The Magic Coach J.S wrote:

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    If the claim is being made that Almgren is only faster over certain distances than Ingebrigtsen because he has trained for those distances then the same thing can be claimed about Ingebrigtsen: he is faster than Almgren over other distances because he has trained for those distances. Indeed the excuse for Ingebrigtsen's poor showing over the HM is because he wasn't trained for the distance.

    Specialisation is a poor argument for explaining why Almgren has superior times to Ingebrigtsen over certain distances; the argument cuts both ways.

    I have followed the career of my countryman Almgren over a decade now. He has faster times than Jakob at 400m and 800m . Actually the right answer to why Jakob has faster times at 1500m - 3000m than Andreas so far is that Jakob has so far specialised at 1500m- 5000m and Andreas 5000m- half marathon.

    Coach J.S 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪

    You have just effectively endorsed what I was saying above. It will not however be a popular argument amongst the Ingebrigtsen fans.

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    Armstronglivs

    Member since 10/05/2018.

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    3 months ago 07/04/2025 8:06am EDT
    re: qrrr

    qrrr wrote:

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    I've forgotten what you are talking about. It no longer interests me.

    When your ignorance is exposed you run away with your tail between your legs.

    Actually it's just that some of you are too boring to continue a discussion with. You can include yourself there.

  • qrrr

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    3 months ago 07/04/2025 8:37am EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    qrrr wrote:

    When your ignorance is exposed you run away with your tail between your legs.

    Actually it's just that some of you are too boring to continue a discussion with. You can include yourself there.

    I know. To the unintelligent, like you, facts are boring.

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    Koltrast

    Member since 03/05/2024.

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    3 months ago 07/04/2025 8:55am EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    Koltrast wrote:

    We can go back to the 90s, with Haile Gebrselassie running a faster 5000 than Farah in 1995 and Paul Tergat running a faster half marathon than Farah in 1998. Did they have better shoes and training than Farah did? Or were Alberto Salazars drugs not up to par compared to what they were serving in the 90s?

    I've forgotten what you are talking about. It no longer interests me.

    I'm happy to remind you, you're claiming you can't compare Farahs times to current runners today, which is a stupid argument when guys in the 90s were running faster than what Farah did.

    Why are you arguing about a sport you don't follow?

  • when has he?

    Anonymous Poster

    3 months ago 07/04/2025 8:58am EDT
    re: Koltrast

    Koltrast wrote:

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    I've forgotten what you are talking about. It no longer interests me.

    I'm happy to remind you, you're claiming you can't compare Farahs times to current runners today, which is a stupid argument when guys in the 90s were running faster than what Farah did.

    Why are you arguing about a sport you don't follow?

    Arguing?

  • The Magic Coach J.S

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    3 months ago 07/04/2025 9:55am EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    The Magic Coach J.S wrote:

    I have followed the career of my countryman Almgren over a decade now. He has faster times than Jakob at 400m and 800m . Actually the right answer to why Jakob has faster times at 1500m - 3000m than Andreas so far is that Jakob has so far specialised at 1500m- 5000m and Andreas 5000m- half marathon.

    Coach J.S 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪

    You have just effectively endorsed what I was saying above. It will not however be a popular argument amongst the Ingebrigtsen fans.

    Don't say that bro, I guess the Ingebrigtsen fans will be delighted to see Jakob have great potential to reach his running lifegoals to hold the world records at 1500/ mile/ 3000m ( wr now) / 5000m/ 10000m / half and marathon before he quit running. Almgren really seem to have potential to thretten the world records at 5000m/ 10000m/ half and marathon. Thrilling future! 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪

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    Armstronglivs

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    3 months ago 07/04/2025 7:12pm EDT
    re: qrrr

    qrrr wrote:

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    Actually it's just that some of you are too boring to continue a discussion with. You can include yourself there.

    I know. To the unintelligent, like you, facts are boring.

    It is a fact that you are boring.

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    Armstronglivs

    Member since 10/05/2018.

    42,196 posts. Last post 14 hours ago.
    3 months ago 07/04/2025 7:14pm EDT
    re: Koltrast

    Koltrast wrote:

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    I've forgotten what you are talking about. It no longer interests me.

    I'm happy to remind you, you're claiming you can't compare Farahs times to current runners today, which is a stupid argument when guys in the 90s were running faster than what Farah did.

    Why are you arguing about a sport you don't follow?

    I'm not arguing that; I am discussing Almgren. You are still boring.

  • qrrr

    Anonymous Poster

    3 months ago 07/05/2025 2:42am EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    Koltrast wrote:

    I'm happy to remind you, you're claiming you can't compare Farahs times to current runners today, which is a stupid argument when guys in the 90s were running faster than what Farah did.

    Why are you arguing about a sport you don't follow?

    I'm not arguing that; I am discussing Almgren. You are still boring.

    Your 40,000 posts are boring.

  • qrrr

    Anonymous Poster

    3 months ago 07/05/2025 4:34am EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    The Magic Coach J.S wrote:

    I have followed the career of my countryman Almgren over a decade now. He has faster times than Jakob at 400m and 800m . Actually the right answer to why Jakob has faster times at 1500m - 3000m than Andreas so far is that Jakob has so far specialised at 1500m- 5000m and Andreas 5000m- half marathon.

    Coach J.S 🇸🇪🇸🇪🇸🇪

    You have just effectively endorsed what I was saying above.

    No he hasn't, dumbo. You can't read.

  • kkk7

    Anonymous Poster

    3 months ago 07/05/2025 6:00am EDT
    re: Armstronglivs

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    qrrr wrote:

    I know. To the unintelligent, like you, facts are boring.

    It is a fact that you are boring.

    Something like this never can be a fact.

    But it's not new that you don't understand the meaning of words in many cases.

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    Armstronglivs

    Member since 10/05/2018.

    42,196 posts. Last post 14 hours ago.
    3 months ago 07/06/2025 8:55am EDT
    re: qrrr

    qrrr wrote:

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    I'm not arguing that; I am discussing Almgren. You are still boring.

    Your 40,000 posts are boring.

    To think that you must read them.

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    Armstronglivs

    Member since 10/05/2018.

    42,196 posts. Last post 14 hours ago.
    3 months ago 07/06/2025 9:00am EDT
    re: qrrr

    qrrr wrote:

    Armstronglivs wrote:

    You have just effectively endorsed what I was saying above.

    No he hasn't, dumbo. You can't read.

    He said this.

    "Actually the right answer to why Jakob has faster times at 1500m - 3000m than Andreas so far is that Jakob has so far specialised at 1500m- 5000m and Andreas 5000m- half marathon."

    So he is saying they are better than the other at the distances mentioned because they both have specialised at those distances. That is what I identified as an argument that can apply to both runners - whether or not one might agree with it.

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