SUPER SATURDAY! 2025 NCAA Outdoor Champs -- Day 4

Forsyth is Canadian.

Good pic of Sophia with her dad

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I said that Rachel Forsyth is "American born" which is a correct statement.

She has dual citizenship. Rachel’s dad is Canadian, mom is American. Born in Ann Arbor and grew up there.

She competes for Canada. Isn’t that what matters?

I said that she was "American born" and for some reason you felt the need to take issue with that, even though my statement was 100% correct.

I just finished watching the Bislett 5 and Nico’s 12:45.

I can’t help but draw a corollary between Hartman & Kejelcha. He ended up doing the pace setting after the rabbits dropped and he got tired of it and asked someone else to step up. Grace willingly leads. She needs to learn to mix it up a bit better. The same happened to her in the ACC indoor mile & the 5 in the indoor national.

Hartman’s most dominating efforts that I have seen have all been solo - her ACC XC win last season, her 31:20 10 & her 14:58 5. A lot of this is new for her. She was always good but always on the periphery and not the star. I hope she can make the transition. I’m pulling for her.

only if people are going to stop hating on Sam Parsons and Alexi Pappas for competing for countries they weren't born in

Mondo

Rose stated post-race her targeted opening lap split was 56-high/57-flat. Got too excited.

However, she also stated pre-race her goal this year was to break Athing Mu's 1:57.73 CR. Seems like that was as important as winning. Unlike Roisin -- and probably everyone else in the field -- who were racing to compete their best, letting fast times come as a result.

So, again, all the "experts" picked Rose; and again, one of W&W took the win.

When Rose unnecessarily ran 1:58-point in her semi - suspected she would crater again in the finals while Roisin would come up from behind to beat her. However, didn't expect a low-1:58.

Still, not going to bash Rose for this. Agree with highlighted text above: this is a coaching failure. They get an "A" for coaching the physical but an "F" for race plan tactics.

All in all, with Akins & Whittaker currently wrestling with mental demons, Ajee Wilson well past her use-by date, and who-knows-what is going on with Raevyn Rogers, Michaela has as good a chance as anybody to make the Tokyo team.

And, so does Roisin.

Yes, it's Megan McGinnis. She is a senior. I noticed the same thing when she anchored the Duke victory at ACC indoors this year, that nothing had changed in her baton carry.

I thought it was a mistake when they used Lauren Tolbert on second leg instead of anchor. But she put them in good position and the two final legs held up well. Realistically 5th place is as high as they could have expected.

There was nothing to clean up. Sutherland executed her stride pattern perfectly. She knows she can't manage 15 steps all the way around so she intentionally switches to 16 on 9 and 10. This is very common among top tier female hurdlers. It's the same thing Dalilah Muhammad did throughout her prime.

It only looks strange because suddenly you are seeing her switch to the other lead on 9. But Dan O'Brien made the correct point during Thurday's heats, that Sutherland looks very comfortable with either leg. There is far less variance than with most 400 hurdlers.

Sutherland may be able to switch to 15 steps all the way around when she turns pro. Femke Bol used this identical step count until just a month prior to the 2021 Tokyo Olympics. She was 16 on 9 and 10 until the Oslo Diamond League meet. The only difference was that Bol featured her left lead at default while Sutherland used right lead. Sutherland is only 6 months older than Bol was at this point in 2021.

I thought she would win. Willis was my second pick. I like Dwight Stones but he always seems to believe Micaela Rose is invincible.

Meanwhile she's as close to fade the favorite as anyone in recent NCAA history. There are very few scenarios in which she can hold on to win. The rest of the field isn't going to just sit back and allow a casual 58 opener. And when she doesn't get the soft early lead she really tightens up in the upper body down the stretch.

Rose should stop the nonsense of pushing the third 200. I have no idea how that crap became conventional wisdom. It's actually the worst possible tactic for an 800 frontrunner. Keely and Moraa both do it correctly when they are in form. Grab the lead at 400 then do just enough down the backstretch to remain barely ahead. Once the field gathers behind you at 200 or 150 remaining, take off.

What do you mean? She is cute as can be, Speaks very well, and Her Running is Amazing, She is Wholesome, Just a Wonderful Little Girl. Everything about her is great. She is My Favorite Runner abd Person in Track. I hope she get a HUGE PRO Contract, If Not I will try to help her out in any way I can, I would gladly help her out with $200 or $300 a Month and I barely get over Minimum Wage (If I am able to give more I will), Just because she is a Wonderful Human Being. She will likely go under 49 Seconds something only 15 or 16 Girls in History have done.

I think the ESPN announcers either subconsciously, or perhaps under direction, emphasize the SEC athletes. John Anderson always did/does. $$?

Yes but "white" in this scenario does not have a history of age fraud

She has dropped 37+ seconds in this event in the last 12 months