Honest question, why would they want limits? Wouldn't they be the benefactors of having large teams (football)? They are the divisions that can pay the big $$$ easily especially Texas. Texas is the second wealthiest school because of their oil money.
Honest question, why would they want limits? Wouldn't they be the benefactors of having large teams (football)? They are the divisions that can pay the big $ easily especially Texas. Texas is the second wealthiest school because of their oil money.
Why does a football team need to have more than 105 players? Most will never see the field. They (football) don't need larger rosters. And just because Texas can afford it doesn't mean everyone else in the P4 can. These schools are businesses. They are going to operate like all other businesses. Maximize profit. I am not saying that's what I want that's just what they are going to do. btw, speaking of Texas, as I understand it they are going to be one of the few schools who are going to have everyone on their track team on full scholarships at the max roster limits allowed. So you are right, Texas can afford it. (maybe your D should try to transfer there?)
Even though they are selfish, LOL, the power schools understand that Texas has more money to spend than say Indiana or Miss St., but they want these smaller schools to be competitive.
If both schools have same roster limit, TX can not have 150 players vs 105 at Indiana/Miss St.
They can use their money to pay each player more, but can't have more players. More players means you can hoard talent.
Note Duke just paid a QB $8million for 2 seasons! In the age of parity, every $100,000 QB at a smaller school is going to want to outplay this guy.
You are dead on about the trial lawyers driving the process, with athletes like House being mere pawns.
Congress? With repubs in power and support from Ted Cruz, Rubio and prob Trump, there is at least a small chance for anti trust legislation in congress.
Honest question, why would they want limits? Wouldn't they be the benefactors of having large teams (football)? They are the divisions that can pay the big $ easily especially Texas. Texas is the second wealthiest school because of their oil money.
Why does a football team need to have more than 105 players? Most will never see the field. They (football) don't need larger rosters. And just because Texas can afford it doesn't mean everyone else in the P4 can. These schools are businesses. They are going to operate like all other businesses. Maximize profit. I am not saying that's what I want that's just what they are going to do. btw, speaking of Texas, as I understand it they are going to be one of the few schools who are going to have everyone on their track team on full scholarships at the max roster limits allowed. So you are right, Texas can afford it. (maybe your D should try to transfer there?)
I'm NOT saying they need to have giant rosters. I was asking the other poster that said that the Big 10 and SEC would want roster limits why would they be the ones asking for roster limits when they are the ones that CAN afford them? Pay attention before jumping down someone's throat.
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Why does a football team need to have more than 105 players? Most will never see the field. They (football) don't need larger rosters. And just because Texas can afford it doesn't mean everyone else in the P4 can. These schools are businesses. They are going to operate like all other businesses. Maximize profit. I am not saying that's what I want that's just what they are going to do. btw, speaking of Texas, as I understand it they are going to be one of the few schools who are going to have everyone on their track team on full scholarships at the max roster limits allowed. So you are right, Texas can afford it. (maybe your D should try to transfer there?)
I'm NOT saying they need to have giant rosters. I was asking the other poster that said that the Big 10 and SEC would want roster limits why would they be the ones asking for roster limits when they are the ones that CAN afford them? Pay attention before jumping down someone's throat.
who jumped down your throat? just explaining they don't want to have bigger rosters... you used football as the example, hence the reference.
the explanation is in my first post. they all know they are going to have to share revenue with the SAs. they are trying to limit their exposure to that issue. roster limits are their attempt to do that. they are operating like a business. again, I don't like it either but that's what's happening
Even though they are selfish, LOL, the power schools understand that Texas has more money to spend than say Indiana or Miss St., but they want these smaller schools to be competitive.
If both schools have same roster limit, TX can not have 150 players vs 105 at Indiana/Miss St.
They can use their money to pay each player more, but can't have more players. More players means you can hoard talent.
Note Duke just paid a QB $8million for 2 seasons! In the age of parity, every $100,000 QB at a smaller school is going to want to outplay this guy.
You are dead on about the trial lawyers driving the process, with athletes like House being mere pawns.
Congress? With repubs in power and support from Ted Cruz, Rubio and prob Trump, there is at least a small chance for anti trust legislation in congress.
Thanks. I do think if the NCAA imposes roster limits outside of the settlement, it will be another anti-trust lawsuit. Unless congress comes to the rescue, agreements among competitors that reduces competition will be struck down as an anti-trust violation.
Even though they are selfish, LOL, the power schools understand that Texas has more money to spend than say Indiana or Miss St., but they want these smaller schools to be competitive.
If both schools have same roster limit, TX can not have 150 players vs 105 at Indiana/Miss St.
They can use their money to pay each player more, but can't have more players. More players means you can hoard talent.
Note Duke just paid a QB $8million for 2 seasons! In the age of parity, every $100,000 QB at a smaller school is going to want to outplay this guy.
You are dead on about the trial lawyers driving the process, with athletes like House being mere pawns.
Congress? With repubs in power and support from Ted Cruz, Rubio and prob Trump, there is at least a small chance for anti trust legislation in congress.
Thanks. I do think if the NCAA imposes roster limits outside of the settlement, it will be another anti-trust lawsuit. Unless congress comes to the rescue, agreements among competitors that reduces competition will be struck down as an anti-trust violation.
Maybe you are right but it will be much harder to prove that roster limits are an anti-trust violation. especially since roster limits already exist at many schools. but again, perhaps you are correct. i'm not an attorney.
Yes, you did. Your answer was not informational but very confrontational. Also, why bring my daughter into it? If she was interested in going to Texas, she would have been an automatic acceptance because she was in the top 6% of her class of over 800. When she went to State she was not a fan of the naked man wondering about and the drunk woman passed out on the curb near the school. Club City was able to give me a great explanation.
Yes, you did. Your answer was not informational but very confrontational. Also, why bring my daughter into it? If she was interested in going to Texas, she would have been an automatic acceptance because she was in the top 6% of her class of over 800. When she went to State she was not a fan of the naked man wondering about and the drunk woman passed out on the curb near the school. Club City was able to give me a great explanation.
umm, you started this thread about your D. Which is why I brought her into it. you pointed out Texas has money and it reminded me that they are going to fund 45 full scholarships for women's track. very few schools are going to do that so it was just a suggestion since you are saying your D is going to be cut. i had no idea about any naked man. (btw, my answer had all the information you needed. you just were upset because I mentioned your D which wasn't meant as a hit on you or your D. relax a bit.)
True, I did get my hackles up when my daughter was mentioned. I did have someone mock my daughter's ability earlier in the thread and I felt your comment about her "why doesn't she go to Texas" was more of a sarcastic comment more than a helpful one. I apologize if your intent was to be helpful.
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Thanks. I do think if the NCAA imposes roster limits outside of the settlement, it will be another anti-trust lawsuit. Unless congress comes to the rescue, agreements among competitors that reduces competition will be struck down as an anti-trust violation.
Maybe you are right but it will be much harder to prove that roster limits are an anti-trust violation. especially since roster limits already exist at many schools. but again, perhaps you are correct. i'm not an attorney.
NFL has roster limits, same with other pro sports. Those are 'anti-trust' that are acceptable.
But aren't NFL players considered employees and have collective bargaining rights that might negate the anti-trust problem with roster limits? Did NFL players through their players association agree upon the roster limits? College athletes are not considered employees and did not get to collectively bargain on the terms (roster limits) being agreed upon which I think can be considered anti-trust.
This is not just about my daughter, it goes way past that. Over 10,000 student athletes will lose their roster spot because two lawyers who don't really care about the class members they are representing are only doing this so they can get a half a billion dollar payout. If my daughter had been cut because of her performance in a normal circumstance, I would say that's how it goes. However, her coach said that she wouldn't be cut if it wasn't for the roster limits. She would have stayed on the team. She still will be able to stay on the team if the settlement doesn't get approved.
Mom, just wanted to comment. I feel bad for your daughter. The situation sucks for her and others who are affected by this entire situation.
That said, it's not just the two lawyers fault that all of this is happening. It is happening because of two main issues. Conference realignment - networks and the P2s who are trying to suck up as much money as they can. And the other issue causing this are SAs who are also pushing to get money they feel they deserve. What's happening to college sports is a result of those two things. If the House suit didn't happen there would be others... in fact there are others in the courts currently. Without some carve out laws college sports as we know it will never be the same.
I might add regarding your comment about roster limits being an anti-trust issue. I suppose it's possible from the standpoint of it being an NCAA mandate but I don't think it would be an issue for conferences to create their own roster limits - which the SEC has already done on the men's side 10 & 35. That would likely not enter into anti-trust territory because a SA still has the option to attend school outside of the SEC.
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