Can't imagine anyonw would fall for the claim that the Covid jab also gives you a healthier heart
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They'll use the loophole of "you can't prove it was the vaccine" (when healthy young people die) until the cows come home. They'll finally admit wrongdoing in the far future (2075 was when Pfizer wanted data released), but the purpose of that is that time makes people forget and forgive--they use these tactics to avoid true accountability. They'll pay big fines which are nothing to a multi billion dollar company, and conveniently reset soon after with their next money making agenda and scheme.
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Newname wrote:
Can't imagine anyonw would fall for the claim that the Covid jab also gives you a healthier heart
Okay, but to be fair, you've shown a limited imagination in other areas, too.
In any case, I'm sure that your mind is made up on this topic and you don't wish to be confused with "data" and "research."
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Nice to see more people chiming with continued evidence the COVID vaccines have saved millions of lives and continue to protect people of all ages!
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aerh wrote:
Newname wrote:
Can't imagine anyonw would fall for the claim that the Covid jab also gives you a healthier heart
Okay, but to be fair, you've shown a limited imagination in other areas, too.
In any case, I'm sure that your mind is made up on this topic and you don't wish to be confused with "data" and "research."
You can't possibly be falling for that.
How can an MNRA shot supposed to "slow" the transmission of the virus (whatever that means) and lessen symptoms of Covid help with the health of your heart?
Try some common sense
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Newname wrote:
aerh wrote:
Okay, but to be fair, you've shown a limited imagination in other areas, too.
In any case, I'm sure that your mind is made up on this topic and you don't wish to be confused with "data" and "research."
You can't possibly be falling for that.
How can an MNRA shot supposed to "slow" the transmission of the virus (whatever that means) and lessen symptoms of Covid help with the health of your heart?
Try some common sense
Systemic viral inflammation and/or the ensuing auto-immune risks are quite bad for your CV system. Anything that suppresses them is good. The population level evidence is extremely clear. COVID and especially severe COVID infection increases your likelihood of heart attacks and strokes.
It’s pretty simple. Viral infection has been know as a big risk for inflammatory diseases for centuries.
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Newname wrote:
aerh wrote:
Okay, but to be fair, you've shown a limited imagination in other areas, too.
In any case, I'm sure that your mind is made up on this topic and you don't wish to be confused with "data" and "research."
You can't possibly be falling for that.
How can an MNRA shot supposed to "slow" the transmission of the virus (whatever that means) and lessen symptoms of Covid help with the health of your heart?
Try some common sense
Well, as the man said, common sense is like common courtesy--not that common. The fact is that Covid-19 itself is, on average, worse for the heart than the jab is.
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runnER/DR wrote:
2600 bro wrote:
Young people dying of heart attacks was caused by lockdowns?
Hmmmm
Fascinating that people still haven't had an honest realization of the harms of lock downs.
It's an invasive intervention. Just like a medication or a procedure. We always weigh the risks and the rewards for these. But I still haven't seen an honest reckoning about the downstream effects of those strict covid lockdowns of 2020.
Certainly there was benefit. No question. But what was the harm? Those interventions severely disrupted society. Did it play a role in the fentanyl crisis? What about the spike in homicides(they jumped 30% in 2020 nationwide). Lots of downstream effects to be considered when such an indiscriminate, blunt tool is used.
Sure - but I think it’s fine to say the rise in cardiac complications was caused by COVID. There’s clear evidence.
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aerh wrote:
Newname wrote:
You can't possibly be falling for that.
How can an MNRA shot supposed to "slow" the transmission of the virus (whatever that means) and lessen symptoms of Covid help with the health of your heart?
Try some common sense
Well, as the man said, common sense is like common courtesy--not that common. The fact is that Covid-19 itself is, on average, worse for the heart than the jab is.
.If you convince Newname the virus is Jewish he will be on your side. Otherwise there’s no hope of him ever opening his eyes ever. He gets spoon fed his ideas and will never look at any evidence.
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Harambe wrote:
runnER/DR wrote:
Fascinating that people still haven't had an honest realization of the harms of lock downs.
It's an invasive intervention. Just like a medication or a procedure. We always weigh the risks and the rewards for these. But I still haven't seen an honest reckoning about the downstream effects of those strict covid lockdowns of 2020.
Certainly there was benefit. No question. But what was the harm? Those interventions severely disrupted society. Did it play a role in the fentanyl crisis? What about the spike in homicides(they jumped 30% in 2020 nationwide). Lots of downstream effects to be considered when such an indiscriminate, blunt tool is used.
Sure - but I think it’s fine to say the rise in cardiac complications was caused by COVID. There’s clear evidence.
Anyone that says there hasn’t been “honest reckoning” on the effects of lockdowns is willfully ignorant. Mountains of literature on state vs state effects / mental health / children’s outcome / etc.
The issue is that it’s just not super conclusive and distillable to a sound bite or clear takeaway … anything too complex is functionally equivalent to “they haven’t studied it enough!!” for most lazy people.
However I agree that it has nothing to do with the vaccine argument.
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aerh wrote:
Newname wrote:
You can't possibly be falling for that.
How can an MNRA shot supposed to "slow" the transmission of the virus (whatever that means) and lessen symptoms of Covid help with the health of your heart?
Try some common sense
Well, as the man said, common sense is like common courtesy--not that common. The fact is that Covid-19 itself is, on average, worse for the heart than the jab is.
.Funny how Covid was a virus that attacked your lungs and breathing and maybe your taste.
The jab comes put and starts causing heart issues and then, and not until then,do studies come out "showing" Covid is worse for your heart than the jab.
Of course the jab does not stop the transmission of Covid....your assertion depends on the erroneous assumption that it does.
Keep in mind that the FDA, founded in 1906 and did not classify smokes as a drug until the 1990s. And approved oxycontin as non addictive for 15 years.
Maybe people ought to think a little more for themselves and use some common sense
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I remain zero-dose unvaxxed after 1529 days of vax availability.
How am I still alive ?
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2600 bro wrote:
aerh wrote:
Well, as the man said, common sense is like common courtesy--not that common. The fact is that Covid-19 itself is, on average, worse for the heart than the jab is.
.If you convince Newname the virus is Jewish he will be on your side. Otherwise there’s no hope of him ever opening his eyes ever. He gets spoon fed his ideas and will never look at any evidence.
In 2020 I made up some stuff about COVID actually being an Israeli project and he took covid seriously for about a week 😭
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Rofl rofl rofl wrote:
2600 bro wrote:
If you convince Newname the virus is Jewish he will be on your side. Otherwise there’s no hope of him ever opening his eyes ever. He gets spoon fed his ideas and will never look at any evidence.
In 2020 I made up some stuff about COVID actually being an Israeli project and he took covid seriously for about a week 😭
Actually you are making that up.
As is that nutcase 2600bro.
Certain people cannot stomach accurate facts about the genocidal apartheid state and so, as they are programmed to do, lash out with false accusations of a special type of racism....while they defend a special type of supremacy.
Up is down
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Newname wrote:
aerh wrote:
Well, as the man said, common sense is like common courtesy--not that common. The fact is that Covid-19 itself is, on average, worse for the heart than the jab is.
.Funny how Covid was a virus that attacked your lungs and breathing and maybe your taste.
The jab comes put and starts causing heart issues and then, and not until then,do studies come out "showing" Covid is worse for your heart than the jab.
Of course the jab does not stop the transmission of Covid....your assertion depends on the erroneous assumption that it does
Sure just ignore the 100k+ studies on COVID-19 and cardiovascular risk from 2020 (pre-vaccine) alone... you are a liar or extremely stupid.
https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=covid+19+cardiovascular&hl=en&as_ylo=2020&as_yhi=2020
Here is an abstract from March 2020:
Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is a global pandemic affecting 185
countries and >3 000 000 patients worldwide as of April 28, 2020.
COVID-19 is caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2,
which invades cells through the angiotensin-converting enzyme 2
receptor. Among patients with COVID-19, there is a high prevalence of
cardiovascular disease, and >7% of patients experience myocardial
injury from the infection (22% of critically ill patients).This post was edited 1 minute after it was posted.21 -
runnER/DR wrote:
Fascinating that people still haven't had an honest realization of the harms of lock downs.
I can only speak for myself, but it's pretty clear that there were negative consequences from Covid social mitigation measures, especially in the education of adolescents.
In retrospect things probably should have been handled differently, but we didn't have the benefit of retrospection at the time.
I think it's also clear that any reasonable retrospective can't ignore or minimize the tsunami of politicking and misinformation that accompanied the pandemic.
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2600 bro wrote:
Newname wrote:
Funny how Covid was a virus that attacked your lungs and breathing and maybe your taste.
The jab comes put and starts causing heart issues and then, and not until then,do studies come out "showing" Covid is worse for your heart than the jab.
Of course the jab does not stop the transmission of Covid....your assertion depends on the erroneous assumption that it does
Sure just ignore the 100k+ studies on COVID-19 and cardiovascular risk from 2020 (pre-vaccine) alone... you are a liar or extremely stupid.
Here is an abstract from March 2020:
Coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19) is a global pandemic affecting 185
countries and >3 000 000 patients worldwide as of April 28, 2020.
COVID-19 is caused by severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2,
which invades cells through the angiotensin-converting enzyme 2
receptor. Among patients with COVID-19, there is a high prevalence of
cardiovascular disease, and >7% of patients experience myocardial
injury from the infection (22% of critically ill patients).I know this post will go unresponded to and another one of Unkles, blatant, flippant lies will persist without acknowledgement.
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Newname wrote:
Rofl rofl rofl wrote:
In 2020 I made up some stuff about COVID actually being an Israeli project and he took covid seriously for about a week 😭
Actually you are making that up.
As is that nutcase 2600bro
Nope it’s true. I got you good lol
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the_real_DanM_from_Massachusetts wrote:
I remain zero-dose unvaxxed after 1529 days of vax availability.
How am I still alive ?
But you need to take the jab to improve the health of your heart!
Right?
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Rofl rofl rofl wrote:
Newname wrote:
Actually you are making that up.
As is that nutcase 2600bro
Nope it’s true. I got you good lol
Of course you did.
All you have to do point to the comment where you claimed COVID being an Israeli project and then how that made me take Covid seriously.
Be great if one of you guys could actually back up these comments just once.
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