Jess Hull progression - nothing to see here

An Australian literally got busted a few months ago.

Who?

Bol, although he did get off on the technicality of his B sample having degraded. A sample was hot and he had doping instructions to microdose EPO on his phone.

It’s called ‘the juice’.

supplied by Nike

in general there are two camps whenever someone runs really fast; one camp instantly assumes a mark can not be possible without cheating, while the other has an open mind and wants to understand how it could be possible

i tend to fall in the second camp, giving athletes the benefit of the doubt more often than not

i don't know anything about her training, but if we're to believe what's in this thread it sounds like there has been a change of scenery that has led to greater consistency and overall enjoyment

although she's always been thin, it does appear she's taken it a notch further and this is probably the single biggest way for a runner to improve though i'd say for the sake of longevity and health she should put some weight back on after the olympics

faith kipyegon was the absolute best possible rabbit for this race, just as elle st. pierre was at the US trials. most rabbits kinda suck actually and they only hang on for about 50-60% of the race. you basically have to have a race where the top competitor is confident they can go all-out and just run away from everyone at the end.

maybe it would actually be super lame, but if the goal was simply to run fast organizers should be using a bike as the pacer (kinda like the derby in track cycling) and have it follow the goal pace until 200 (or whatever is deemed appropriate) to go

ALL Nike athletes are suspicious.

They don't need too, it's 2024, that's what the pace setting wavelight around the track is for, Kipyegon noticed it.

Can I suggest bringing the break forward a few weeks?

Same response when anyone points out that Syndney is incredibly suspicious

why is nobody mentioning Georgia Bell in the same race ran a 4 sec PB? Muir who was in terrible form leading in ran a British record. There was clearly something special going on last nite - whether it was shoes, track, extra oxygen in the air or whatever, its not just Jess that did crazy things. You cant look at her time in isolation.

Hyper altitude responder last time I checked she has 0 ancestry at altitude and wasn’t born there

Lmaoooooo you can literally buy anything and it gets shipped to you bs

This is what I’m thinking. Many other athletes PB’d - long standing athletes like Linden Hall and Laura Muir. Athletes like Georgia (who’d never gone below 4 knocking 4 seconds off her PB). Then we also have the men’s 800m

There’s clearly something going on with the track - and that coupled with athletes hitting their peak for the Olympics we are seeing crazy times.

Then why doesn't the same argument apply to Kipyegon? Better drugs?

Forget Hull's progression - although that itself is indicative - the fact she is now as fast as the doped Chinese and Dibaba(Aden) tells us what we need to know.

You’ve clearly never been even remotely close to someone on whereabouts.

The only way you get caught doping is if you’re an idiot. It’s incredibly easy to avoid testing positive if you have even the slightest idea what you’re doing. Time your micro dose right in the evening and there’s no way you’re glowing by the time ASADA is knocking on your door at 6am the next morning.

If you think it’s hard to stay undetected go watch Icarus again.

Exactly I live in Australia and let me tell you you can get anything lmaoo, the testing is not as rigorous as you think, Majority of wada budget is actually spent to test African, I remember one year that Ethiopia had 40% of the test or budget They are all on something the only difference is the Non African athletes now have finally gotten of they moral high horses and gone to the dark side to even the playing field. Anyone who thinks hull or even St P are not taking novelties meds are delusional. Bicarb pain killers heart medication, blood pressure meds stimulants. There are so many natty things that you can compound together over a training block to improve your performance.

No way in hell is Jess doping. She's just finally reaching her potential after being released from the clutches of awful American coaches. Dad knows best.

She ran the 5th all time fastest 1500 of all time. Look at some of the men's 5th fastest all time in the distance events.

1500 and Mile - Morceli

2000 steeple - Shaheen

3000 steeple - Boulami

3000 - Girma

2 miles -- Farah

5000 - Gebrselassie

They are universally recognized as all-time greats." Hull has been in her prime for a number of years now. She has never been dominant. I wouldn't call her an also-ran but she never has been dominant or considered an all-time great. She has often finished in the "middle of the pack." The male runners never did that. They were always the ones who finished first.