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  • Heartland Fan

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 12/02/2023 7:25pm EST
    re: Hearty heart

    Hearty heart wrote:

    Heartland girls teams took 21st & 22nd

    Boys teams took 16th & 18th.

    Nevertheless, @ 21st today the Wayzata girls had a season that no one saw coming. They lost the four seniors to graduation from last year’s NXN team, including their superstar, Abbey Nechanicky. And then the top returner from last season, Maddie Gullickson, missed the entire season due to injury.
    As a local fan, I wasn’t expecting what happened: an undefeated season in-state, including at Roy Griak and the 3AAA State Title, followed by their win at NXR Heartland.

    Their #1 all season, Jazleen M-O (40th today @ NXN) was a Varsity-alternate (#8/9 runner) a year ago! A healthy Maddie Gullickson will give them a strong 1-2 punch for the next two seasons (they’re both sophomores). Plus (including Gullickson) their top 7 will all be back next season.

  • Good Luck With That

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 12/02/2023 7:30pm EST
    re: Heartland Fan

    Heartland Fan wrote:

    Speed Ratings are out:

    Jourdon: 198

    Ritz: 164

    I'm surprised that Ritz didn't get a higher speed rating. She won by a large margin and she beat the top 3 girls in the country (Leachman, Forsyth, and Englehardt) by an even larger margin.

  • dumb question asker

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 12/02/2023 7:54pm EST
    re: Truth#

    Truth# wrote:

    Niwot Hater wrote:

    Which schools?

    Air Academy’s top 3 girls should all be at different high schools

    So what school did the best that was purely public? North Allegheny?

  • dumb question asker

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 12/02/2023 7:55pm EST
    re: trundzer

    trundzer wrote:

    dumb question asker wrote:

    Who is Wexford on the girls side? Another mountain school?

    North Allegheny PA. They were at NXN last year too

    Again, dumb question: why don't they compete under their school name? What is all of this "running club" nonsense?

  • Nope

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 12/02/2023 8:35pm EST
    re: courses and horses

    courses and horses wrote:

    Califan31 wrote:

    Josh Bell got in the top 10 too this is funny, Parra and Bell were considered a notch below Fast Horse, Perez, and Noonan and still managed top 10.

    Parra and Bell don't have the same top-end fitness as Noonan, but their style of racing suits a muddy championship much better: get out fast and hang on

    On courses with much less traffic and better footing, Noonan just needed to keep guys like Bell in sight the first few miles, then shift into top gear for the last mile and finish with nobody else even in the picture.

    I suspect Noonan figured he could employ the same tactic and will have learned a valuable lesson today

    Parra has been running national meets since age 8. He knows how to show up in these types of races. Stop giving others excuses and respect Parra’s Grit and experience!

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    oldold runner

    Member since 09/23/2015.

    454 posts. Last post 4 days ago.
    1 year ago 12/02/2023 11:10pm EST
    re: Nope

    Nope wrote:

    courses and horses wrote:

    Parra and Bell don't have the same top-end fitness as Noonan, but their style of racing suits a muddy championship much better: get out fast and hang on

    On courses with much less traffic and better footing, Noonan just needed to keep guys like Bell in sight the first few miles, then shift into top gear for the last mile and finish with nobody else even in the picture.

    I suspect Noonan figured he could employ the same tactic and will have learned a valuable lesson today

    Parra has been running national meets since age 8. He knows how to show up in these types of races. Stop giving others excuses and respect Parra’s Grit and experience!

    I agree with you on Parra’s grit and experience. I defended Parra on another post because a poster stated Parra had a terrible season and didn’t deserve to go to NXN.

    As I stated on the other post Parra had been running well and was peaking at the right time, Parra proved me right.

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    Xcncaafan

    Member since 10/04/2023.

    185 posts. Last post 1 year ago.
    1 year ago 12/03/2023 12:22am EST
    re: maybe dumb question

    maybe dumb question wrote:

    His Father Was A Mudder wrote:

    Ellie Shea is supposedly running an indoor track meet today.

    Is it the BU invite? Missed that, if so.

    Yes, she ran the 3k at BU in 9:26. All things considered, an OK result.

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    Manbearpig15

    Member since 06/07/2020.

    1,572 posts. Last post 2 days ago.
    1 year ago 12/03/2023 1:14am EST
    re: LetsRun.com

    Utah State meet was 10/24. So they get six weeks to prepare for NXN.

  • registered

    ChatLRC

    Member since 02/10/2023.

    525 posts. Last post 3 days ago.
    1 year ago 12/03/2023 1:31am EST
    re: XY.

    XY. wrote:

    courses and horses wrote:

    and people still think genetics don't matter near as much as mental toughness 🤣

    Ritz FTW!!!!!!!!!

    I'm going out on a limb to speculate that she has plenty of both.

    Worth noting that her dad is also one of the best coaches in the world.

  • 1234farts

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 12/03/2023 3:07am EST
    re: dumb question asker

    lone peak

  • J. Ryun

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 12/03/2023 3:14am EST
    re: dumb question asker

    So they don’t screw up HS eligibility with many state organizations. It’s the same with other sports like swimming.

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    runnER/DR

    Member since 11/02/2016.

    2,048 posts. Last post 1 day ago.
    1 year ago 12/03/2023 4:11am EST
    re: Manbearpig15

    Manbearpig15 wrote:

    Utah State meet was 10/24. So they get six weeks to prepare for NXN.

    That can be a double edged sword. Tough to hit that the right way. Also NXRSW is so brutally competitive, they have to lay it all on the line for that race to advance.

  • Pay attention

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 12/03/2023 9:46am EST
    re: LetsRun.com

    She just won a national title! 😂

  • Heartland Fan 1

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 12/03/2023 6:16pm EST
    re: NXN XN

    NXN XN wrote:

    Heartland Fan wrote:

    Speed Ratings are out:

    Jourdon: 198

    Ritz: 164

    ARitz should be her nickname.

    I like “Ritzy.”

    It’s both distinctive (from “Ritz”) and descriptive.

    It sounds right to me!

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    rbtrackfan

    Member since 07/10/2023.

    4,792 posts. Last post 9 hours ago.
    1 year ago 12/03/2023 6:19pm EST
    re: Good Luck With That

    Good Luck With That wrote:

    Heartland Fan wrote:

    Speed Ratings are out:

    Jourdon: 198

    Ritz: 164

    I'm surprised that Ritz didn't get a higher speed rating. She won by a large margin and she beat the top 3 girls in the country (Leachman, Forsyth, and Englehardt) by an even larger margin.

    Well those 3 tried to run 20-30 seconds faster than they were capable of and paid for it.

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    rbtrackfan

    Member since 07/10/2023.

    4,792 posts. Last post 9 hours ago.
    1 year ago 12/03/2023 7:49pm EST
    re: rbtrackfan

    Some interviews - Forsyth "learning experience"

    nxn.runnerspace.com
    NikeCrossNationals.com - Nike Cross Nationals Official Site - NXN - Videos - Rachel Forsyth 5th Place Girls Championship Race - Nike Cross Nationals 2023
    Rachel Forsyth, an early leader in the girls race, finished fifth in the girls championship race on Saturday at Nike Cross Nationals. The Michigan Division 1 state champion and NXR Midwest champion finished in 17:38.6.
    Link:nxn.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?event...

    Leachman - "struggling by 3K"

    nxn.runnerspace.com
    NikeCrossNationals.com - Nike Cross Nationals Official Site - NXN - Videos - Elizabeth Leachman 15th Place Girls Championship Race - Nike Cross Nationals 2023
    Elizabeth Leachman from Boerne, Texas, who led by as much as 15 seconds between the 1K to 3K points in the race, finished 15th on Saturday at Nike Cross Nationals. The sophomore ran 17:53.6.
    Link:nxn.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?event...

    There are more

    nxn.runnerspace.com
    NikeCrossNationals.com - Nike Cross Nationals Official Site - NXN - Videos
    Nike Cross Nationals - 12.03.22
    Link:nxn.runnerspace.com/eprofile.php?do=vi...

  • Straight Dawg!!!!$$$

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 12/03/2023 9:15pm EST
    re: rbtrackfan

    Isabelle Keller from Illinois a straight dawg!!!!! That last 1.5k was impressive for the young freshman.

  • WaitForMoreData

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 12/04/2023 2:06am EST
    re: Chaser2002

    Sorry if something like this was already posted, but just for kicks I scored NXN boys by region, combining the teams and individuals all as region representatives.

    Southwest 1,4,6,13,17 (28) (34) =41
    California 8,9,19,24,26 (40) (45) =86
    Heartland 5,12,20,22,42 =101
    Southeast 15,16,23,25,30 (47) =109
    Midwest 2,10,27,35,46 =120
    Northeast 7,11,29,33,41 =121
    South 21,31,36,44,48 (49)(50) =180
    Northwest 3,14,18,56,58 =149
    New York 67,74, 92, 99, 111, 116 =535

    Southwest was so much better there is nothing to add.

    For all the talk about how bad California did (the teams), they look pretty good in this measurement (yes, it is flawed, but it is one measure).

    Heartland did better than I expected.

    New York did the impossible. They were worse than my already incredibly low expectations.

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    Embrace the suck

    Member since 12/04/2023.

    1 post. Last post 1 year ago.
    1 year ago 12/04/2023 1:03pm EST
    re: LetsRun.com

    Just curious, anyone know how many wore spike and how many wore flats? Cali doesn’t allow spikes in high school meets, are other states like that. Mud and those conditions are going to impact regardless, but would be an interesting data point.. Not sure many Cali kids laced up spikes and if they did not sure how comfortable and confident they were in them. Many of those SoCal kids have never run in those type of conditions. I know Para and Bell have from Club USATF/AAU National XC meets..

  • yes to spikes

    Anonymous Poster

    1 year ago 12/04/2023 1:07pm EST
    re: Embrace the suck

    Embrace the suck wrote:

    Just curious, anyone know how many wore spike and how many wore flats? Cali doesn’t allow spikes in high school meets, are other states like that. Mud and those conditions are going to impact regardless, but would be an interesting data point.. Not sure many Cali kids laced up spikes and if they did not sure how comfortable and confident they were in them. Many of those SoCal kids have never run in those type of conditions. I know Para and Bell have from Club USATF/AAU National XC meets..

    they definitely wore spikes. they are not that stupid to wear flats. enough the excuses already. It's on them for not being better prepared. Newbury Park and Arcadia were able to pull it off in muddy conditions. nxn is muddy like 50% of the time

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