DeSantis bans African American studies class in Florida

Malik Shabazz · 2023-01-20T14:31:14-05:00

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jan/19/ron-desantis-bans-african-american-studies-florida-schools He claims it lacks educational value. This guy makes me sick to my stomach. Trump all over again.

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3 years ago 01/22/2023 1:31pm EST

re: Idiot spotter

Idiot spotter wrote:
DeSantis stated reason for removing this class:
”It has no educational value”.
Call me crazy but African Americans have played a large roll in building the culture, economy and infrastructure if this country. I am not black. But imagine if you were. He is saying your people and history have no educational value. Nobody needs to learn about you.
yowsa!
In reality what this really is:
”Stop teaching anything that might make white people like me and my kids uncomfortable”.

Ahh the old "white fragility" deflection tactic. "If you oppose what we say, it must be because it just makes you uncomfortable." Never heard that one before!

https://drive.google.com/file/d/18T4lapn3UgY8ZIAHNhvMhAiNszbO_m5O/view

If you look at the class curriculum, you'll see in Unit 4 that the class veers away from black history and into critical theorist political ideology, which is a factually untrue and tribally divisive ideology. That's why Florida chose to not have this class publicly funded. It's not about sending the message to black people that they have no value as you put it.

3 years ago 01/22/2023 1:53pm EST

re: Rick Cheney

Rick Cheney wrote:
Have you taken African American history ..? wrote:
It would be a waste of my time reading the comments of uninformed persons. Since I posted a few days ago, has anyone stated they successfully completed a college level African American history course and the course has no merit?
I went to college and never learned about racism. it was touched on in elementary school but not really. Had to educate myself post college to really learn anything

I find this nearly impossible to believe. I grew up in "flyover country," and I distinctly remember learning about slavery in elementary school. We saw various torture implements used on runaway slaves and pictures of people who had been whipped. This was in addition to learning about Jim Crow laws and the Civil Rights Movement. Again, I did not live in a progressive state. This was all part of the standard curriculum in US History.

We didn't touch upon racism in many of my college classes because they were science classes, and this was before anti-Enlightenment thinking started taking hold outside of the humanities.

3 years ago 01/22/2023 1:53pm EST

re: Let it Rupp

Let it Rupp wrote:
Link:drive.google.com/file/d/18T4lapn3UgY8Z...

lol...Let It Rupp linking up those race articles straight from his hard drive again. What's that folder called?

Get a new hobby/obsession.

3 years ago 01/22/2023 3:24pm EST

re: URonaBROsade

the truth wrote:
Topics 1-3 are already woke and basically CRT, but look at topic 4!
4.13: Black feminism
4.15: Intersectionality
4.16: More black feminism
4.19: Black queer studies
4.26: Incarceration and abolition
4.29: BLM
4.30: Reparations
4.32: Afrofuturism

Someone else linked it (on page 5). I summarized it on the same page

3 years ago 01/22/2023 3:40pm EST

re: the truth.

the truth. wrote:
the truth wrote:
Topics 1-3 are already woke and basically CRT, but look at topic 4!
4.13: Black feminism
4.15: Intersectionality
4.16: More black feminism
4.19: Black queer studies
4.26: Incarceration and abolition
4.29: BLM
4.30: Reparations
4.32: Afrofuturism
Someone else linked it (on page 5). I summarized it on the same page

Having a unit devoted to the study of such does not equal promoting. If a teacher is actively coming out in favor/agreement with non-factual content, there’s a problem, but presenting information about topics that actually exist does not make it inherently [insert adjective to accurately describe your fear].

3 years ago 01/22/2023 3:41pm EST

re: the truth.

the truth. wrote:
the truth wrote:
Topics 1-3 are already woke and basically CRT, but look at topic 4!
4.13: Black feminism
4.15: Intersectionality
4.16: More black feminism
4.19: Black queer studies
4.26: Incarceration and abolition
4.29: BLM
4.30: Reparations
4.32: Afrofuturism
Someone else linked it (on page 5). I summarized it on the same page

*You butchered an attempt of summarizing it with bias and spin.

3 years ago 01/22/2023 3:51pm EST

re: Former Never Trumper

No, I just shortened the descriptions. Here are the full ones:

4.13: "The Black Feminist Movement and Womanism"
4.15: "African American Women's History and the Metalanguage of Race"
4.16: "Intersectionality and Activism"
4.19: "Black Queer Studies"
4.26: "Incarceration and Abolition"
4.29: "Movements for Black Lives"
4.30: "The Reparations Movement"
4.32: "Black Futures and Afrofuturism"

3 years ago 01/22/2023 3:53pm EST

re: the truth.

the truth. wrote:
No, I just shortened the descriptions. Here are the full ones:
4.13: "The Black Feminist Movement and Womanism"
4.15: "African American Women's History and the Metalanguage of Race"
4.16: "Intersectionality and Activism"
4.19: "Black Queer Studies"
4.26: "Incarceration and Abolition"
4.29: "Movements for Black Lives"
4.30: "The Reparations Movement"
4.32: "Black Futures and Afrofuturism"

*Shortened/changed the descriptions and left out the material available to study based on your biases against black people that you’ve repeatedly demonstrated on countless threads.

How dare they acknowledge current debates and movements involving race in an African American Studies course.

3 years ago 01/22/2023 3:57pm EST

re: the truth.

the truth. wrote:
No, I just shortened the descriptions. Here are the full ones:
4.13: "The Black Feminist Movement and Womanism"
4.15: "African American Women's History and the Metalanguage of Race"
4.16: "Intersectionality and Activism"
4.19: "Black Queer Studies"
4.26: "Incarceration and Abolition"
4.29: "Movements for Black Lives"
4.30: "The Reparations Movement"
4.32: "Black Futures and Afrofuturism"

lol.....busted!

so you gotta twist your own evidence to back your story.

For a guy with the user name of Truth you seem to have a hard time sticking to it.

Ok, looking at the actual truthful descriptions, what do you think each one deserves to be banned?

considering this is your cherry picked 'smoking gun'......these look extremely benign.

3 years ago 01/22/2023 3:58pm EST

re: Former Never Trumper

No, I just shortened it. I just noticed I made a typo on 4.15 - it's "intersectionality and activism", not "African American Women's History and the Metalanguage of Race".

How is "Black feminism" different from "The Black Feminist Movement"? How is "intersectionality" significantly different than "intersectionality and activism"?

How is "BLM" much different than "movements for black lives"?

3 years ago 01/22/2023 5:18pm EST

re: URonaBROsade

URonaBROsade wrote:
the truth. wrote:
No, I just shortened the descriptions. Here are the full ones:
4.13: "The Black Feminist Movement and Womanism"
4.15: "African American Women's History and the Metalanguage of Race"
4.16: "Intersectionality and Activism"
4.19: "Black Queer Studies"
4.26: "Incarceration and Abolition"
4.29: "Movements for Black Lives"
4.30: "The Reparations Movement"
4.32: "Black Futures and Afrofuturism"
lol.....busted!
so you gotta twist your own evidence to back your story.
For a guy with the user name of Truth you seem to have a hard time sticking to it.
Ok, looking at the actual truthful descriptions, what do you think each one deserves to be banned?
considering this is your cherry picked 'smoking gun'......these look extremely benign.

Looks like he summarized them pretty accurately.

The more you expand on them the worse it gets.

3 years ago 01/22/2023 5:21pm EST

re: Malik Shabazz

He did not ban African American history classes. He banned ONE SPECIFIC African American history class -- the AP curriculum -- because of issues with this specific syllabus.

I speculate that it's full of woke BLM propaganda...

He's probably the smartest governor in the USA. I hope he runs for president and wins.

3 years ago 01/22/2023 5:36pm EST

re: comedyreIieff

comedyreIieff wrote:
Now, as an AP State Scholar I will chime in with a couple of takeaways:
1. AP credits like this typically only count as elective credits when you go to college. I passed multiple AP courses that amounted to elective credits in college. I had more elective credits than I needed for my major, however, I was still required by my university to take a cross cultural elective, which ended up being the History of Jazz. This requirement didn't really enrich my college experience and provided nothing towards my career. Ironically, had African American Studies been an AP course at the time and had I taken it and passed it, it would have actually filled the cross-cultural requirement that the other courses (like U.S. History) did not.
In hindsight, this requirement was more of a method for the colleges to find work for people with the gender and ethnic studies majors whose real-world prospects were limited at best. Ultimately, these requirements increase the cost of an education while contributing little. Looking back, I would have loved to have taken another finance course instead of the History of Jazz (as it was, I graduated with about 20 more credits than was required for my major).
2. There are no other ethnic American AP classes. No AP Irish American History. No AP Slavic American History. No AP Chinese American History. No AP Latin American History.
3. As noted in #1, it's elective credit. A lot of the classes that people take in college have little bearing on their career. The relevance of some of these courses to employers is they prove that for four years of your life you were responsible enough to show up, on time, take orders and work diligently. In this regard, this course would fulfill that requirement. If such a course motivates those who are historically disengaged in the education system to show up for class, work hard and try to achieve, then it is a win for the education system and should not be discouraged or prohibited.

What a waste of time writing any of this… WHO CARES.

3 years ago 01/22/2023 5:37pm EST

re: URonaBROsade

They're all pure CRT which is illegal in Florida.

3 years ago 01/22/2023 5:37pm EST

re: the truth.

the truth. wrote:
No, I just shortened it. I just noticed I made a typo on 4.15 - it's "intersectionality and activism", not "African American Women's History and the Metalanguage of Race".
How is "Black feminism" different from "The Black Feminist Movement"? How is "intersectionality" significantly different than "intersectionality and activism"?
How is "BLM" much different than "movements for black lives"?

You didn't answer why you have a problem with each topic.

Can you go through and explain why each one should be removed from the curriculum.

I don't see anything even close to be worth banning based on topic alone.

3 years ago 01/22/2023 6:33pm EST

re: URonaBROsade

It's all nonsense created recently to bolster black self esteem, same with Womens studies, Chicano Studies etc.....A degree in these plus 50 cents will get you a cup of coffee.

3 years ago 01/22/2023 7:26pm EST

re: runnerboy70

runnerboy70 wrote:
It's all nonsense created recently to bolster black self esteem, same with Womens studies, Chicano Studies etc.....A degree in these plus 50 cents will get you a cup of coffee.

Aren't you the guy that said "slavery wasn't that bad"

Sounds like you could use the course.

3 years ago 01/22/2023 7:57pm EST

re: URonaBROsade

URonaBROsade wrote:
Let it Rupp wrote:
Link:drive.google.com/file/d/18T4lapn3UgY8Z...
lol...Let It Rupp linking up those race articles straight from his hard drive again. What's that folder called?
Get a new hobby/obsession.

Do you not know what google drive is boomer?

3 years ago 01/22/2023 8:05pm EST

re: Koko the Gorilla

Koko the Gorilla wrote:
URonaBROsade wrote:
lol...Let It Rupp linking up those race articles straight from his hard drive again. What's that folder called?
Get a new hobby/obsession.
Do you not know what google drive is boomer?

oh yay! someone being overly literal

This post was edited 3 minutes after it was posted. Reason provided: more explaining for the overly literal

3 years ago 01/22/2023 8:11pm EST

re: LetsBeAccurate

LetsBeAccurate wrote:
He did not ban African American history classes. He banned ONE SPECIFIC African American history class -- the AP curriculum -- because of issues with this specific syllabus.
I speculate that it's full of woke BLM propaganda...
He's probably the smartest governor in the USA. I hope he runs for president and wins.

Exactly. And given the near cultural illiteracy most of CRT set promotes, that's a good thing for everyone. Contrast with the Last Poets or

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