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objectiveobserver wrote:
Women's 800 wrote:
It's a great time for a junior in high school, but that's still 8 seconds behind Colin, and they are only 2 seconds apart in the 3200. It's an absolutely incredible time, but still not what I would've thought, and nothing super surprising as the NP boys have been this season.
Seen through neutral glasses: Of course Lex is running a greeat race for a guy just turned 17 but....................
he is only about 1.5 seconds ahead of 14 years old Jakob and some behind Jakob´s 3:42 time at 15. Jakob ran 3:31 at 17.
Ryun ran 3:33.1 on dirt and 1967 adidas @ 20yo. Maybe worth 3:28.6 on todays bouncy carpets and spring loaded shoes.
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XY wrote:
FatSlowOldGuy wrote:
It always surprises me when an athlete has one fabulous breakout year and everyone expects they will just automatically return to that standard or just keep getting better.
Its like Mu and Keely. You'd think two 19 year olds running 1.55 then would have to be better and totally dominate this year but it rarely works like that.
Like when COVID postpone everything a year there were two youngsters dominating their events where being a year older you'd think they both be more dominant the next year. Brazier and Mondo but I said I thought only one of the two would.
You picked poor examples with Athing and Keely. In what way has Mu looked anything but crushingly dominant so far this year? And Keely had some very solid/dominant races before opting out of worlds with a niggle.
I can't believe all the second-guessing we have right now when the pro season has barely begun. Hassan and Gidey haven't even raced yet this year. Do you think they won't be crushing it again this summer?
I'm not saying they can't go 1 2 in the world's and both run faster than 1.55 this year I'm just saying you'd think two 19 year olds being 20 the odds were in their favor. If I had to put money on whether they'd both improve their 800 pbs this season and go 1 2 in worlds I'd bet against it. I'm not second guessing or saying they are doing anything wrong. Just track progression rarely works that way. Jackob and Mondo being two notable exceptions so far.
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Sneed wrote:
Flanagan 13:35 FTW.
What a completely unremarkable meet honestly. Nothing to write home about
kinda sorta on topic: in general does it seem like mt sac has a slow track? feels like past several meets there have been on the slower-than-expected side, no?
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sac is slow wrote:
kinda sorta on topic: in general does it seem like mt sac has a slow track? feels like past several meets there have been on the slower-than-expected side, no?
No, Mt SAC isn't a slow track. Last night just had too much wind.
There were plenty of fast times at Mt SAC Relays last month.
Times from last year don't matter much because lots of athletes' training was disrupted because of Covid restrictions.
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Run Really Fast wrote:
sac is slow wrote:
kinda sorta on topic: in general does it seem like mt sac has a slow track? feels like past several meets there have been on the slower-than-expected side, no?
No, Mt SAC isn't a slow track. Last night just had too much wind.
There were plenty of fast times at Mt SAC Relays last month.
Times from last year don't matter much because lots of athletes' training was disrupted because of Covid restrictions.
maybe recency bias on my part, but i don't remember too many people running fast at the relays last month either. not saying nobody did, but like...who?
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NOT wrote:
objectiveobserver wrote:
Seen through neutral glasses: Of course Lex is running a greeat race for a guy just turned 17 but....................
he is only about 1.5 seconds ahead of 14 years old Jakob and some behind Jakob´s 3:42 time at 15. Jakob ran 3:31 at 17.
Ryun ran 3:33.1 on dirt and 1967 adidas @ 20yo. Maybe worth 3:28.6 on todays bouncy carpets and spring loaded shoes.
Jim Ryun ran 3:33 at 20. At twenty Jakob ran 3:28.32.
At 17 Jim Ryun ran a 3:59 mile. Jakob ran a 3:52 mile at 17.
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