OhIt's quite scary how this country is turning into China on certain matters. We don't have the formal censorship but we might as well.
Oh, shut up with this total nonsense. You're not getting canceled, your free speech isn't being violated. You're just being called an a-hole by your own users because you posted something stupid and unfunny.
Oh, it's China! What happened to the America of my born rich, politically-connected, prep school then Yale father, where older, privilege white men could discriminate publicly without fear of being made fun of? It's so unfair, for me, Robert Johnson!
Remember kids, the big takeaway here is that the REAL victim is RoJo, because people are being mean to him.
Oh, shut up with this total nonsense. You're not getting canceled, your free speech isn't being violated. You're just being called an a-hole by your own users because you posted something stupid and unfunny.
Oh, it's China! What happened to the America of my born rich, politically-connected, prep school then Yale father, where older, privilege white men could discriminate publicly without fear of being made fun of? It's so unfair, for me, Robert Johnson!
Remember kids, the big takeaway here is that the REAL victim is RoJo, because people are being mean to him.
Oh man..the dangers of speaking the TRUTH in china!
If very few people think trans women should be allowed to compete against females can you answer a few questions: Did Lia Thomas just win an NCAA championship or not?
Were here teammates encouraged not to speak out if they felt she shouldn’t be allowed to compete?
Do I need to connect the dots….
She just won an NCAA title. It’s clear the NCAA and her school felt she should be able to compete. I don’t know the number of people who think she should be allowed to compete but they are powerful enough they it happened.
The majority of LetsRun may think she shouldn’t compete but clearly those in power in the NCAA weren’t worried about it .
NCAA tried to change the eligibility rule mid season. They even asked the USA Swimming to craft a new policy.
16 of Thomas' teammates asked UPenn and Ivy League to follow the new USA Swimming policy. Only four of the teammates signed an open letter in support of Thomas. 16-4 looks pretty lopsided to me.
Eventually, NCAA chickened out because they were probably afraid of a potential lawsuit (either from UPenn or Thomas' attorney).
Scary thing in that SlowTwitch thread is that the Editor in Chief posted he would begin transgender affirmation care on his young kids if they told him
Strange thread in a strange world we live in. If I am to believe what people say, most are not for trans (born male) athletes competing against biologically born females.
Yet...few want it to stop, talk about it, against it etc. What does that make them? Look at the number of times I have criticised, even insulted (sorry) the brojos for trolling. But fair cop, at least they push the point of view that the rest are to damn gutless to say, even if under the guise of a poorly written April Fools joke
No. That’s not what you said. If you had said that, then you would have said that.
What you did was write a very poorly written (because you cannot write) and unfunny “op ed” (btw when have you ever published anything not on your own website) that bashes transgender people.
you did not simply point out a scientific fact. You went out of your way to insult people
Serious question, sorry if you've answered it elsewhere, but not going through pages of woke ranting.
What 'is' the scientific fact? Please provide references and not opinion
I am on the side of transgender acceptance. But let us be honest. Nobody would prefer that their child be born as one gender and then prefer to switch. Honesty matters.
I'll defend it. I very much wanted to make one thing clear in the article.
A trans woman is not a biological female and I think elite sports should be for biological females. That's it.
I thought the most obvious way to do that was to point out that trans women are born with penises, will never have a period and will never give birth. That last sentence is a fact. If it makes you uncomfortable or if it upsets you, then that's on you as all I'm doing is pointing out a scientific fact. A trans woman isn't a biological female and female isn't just a 10-12% weaker version of a man. THE END.
So what about Caster Semenya? Would you say she should be able to compete against women with no restriction?
She wasn't born with a penis... so your penis rule doesn't apply to her?
What about an XX female that has a penis but no testicles?
Who gets to be the genital police? Does every competitor have to line up and let a brojo inspect their genitals before racing?
Honestly, this is probably one of the most disappointing things I've read on the site, I get you were going for satire, but it seems very mean spirited and definitely had the tone of punching down. Definitely appealed to the lowest common denominator. I get that it's a complicated issue and at some point sports may need to address it, but right now its a couple extreme outliers that people for some reason feel the need to target.
Dozens of kids get shot in a school, let's do nothing, one transgender person wins a title and nobody is hurt, let's regulate athletics. Seems hypocritical
Caster Semenya isn't trans. She is intersex. She wouldn't have known and her family didn't know either. She was born just like every other girl but had internal testes. Internal i.e. you cannot see them. So she grew up knowing nothing different, as a girl. I know butch women who look similar to Caster. They exist. They're more often involved with women's rugby and football (soccer) than athletics in my experience.
It was only after she won the world champs that they requested sex testing and discovered the intersex issue. The thing is having those levels of testosterone make a dramatic difference. If I was competing then I found out that and read about it, I wouldn't carry on competing against women because of the massive difference.
Someone above asked if I thought it was worth pubishing given the blowback.
the beagle wrote: The mere fact that so many people who agree with the stance that individuals born biologically male should not compete in women’s athletics are still skewering this weak attempt at a joke article should let you know how badly you butchered making your point. Someone asked if I thought it was worth it given the blowback. I'll agree that with the left mob on twitter, it didn'nt go over well
I'll agree it could have been written better and I am debating on the podcast next week after addressing to pledge not to talk about it for a full calendar year. So I was thinking of saying, I doubt I'm changing anyone's mind so it's almost not worth it,. But then I saw Weldon's post.
wejo wrote: If very few people think trans women should be allowed to compete against females can you answer a few questions: Did Lia Thomas just win an NCAA championship or not? Were here teammates encouraged not to speak out if they felt she shouldn’t be allowed to compete? Do I need to connect the dots…. She just won an NCAA title. It’s clear the NCAA and her school felt she should be able to compete. I don’t know the number of people who think she should be allowed to compete but they are powerful enough they it happened. The majority of LetsRun may think she shouldn’t compete but clearly those in power in the NCAA weren’t worried about it . Its a scientific fact that a trans woman won't have a period or give birth.
BRAVO!!
The reality is tons of people realize this was a stupid idea but no one had the guts to say anything. It's scary that so many people are scared to death to state facts. The whole winter I kept waiting for the women in swimming to just stand on the start line and let her jump in, swim alone and then swim on their own. Nothing. No protests.
So yes I'm glad we did it. Someone has to push back. Could it have been written slightly more sensitive? Sure. It's quite scary how this country is turning into China on certain matters. We don't have the formal censorship but we might as well.
Yeah it's pretty clear that the takeaway of this thread is that this is China & you're the brave ones for penning an anti-trans joke article.
You still haven't addressed what everyone is telling you to address. Talk about biological differences, fine, but don't pedal anti-trans hate. The fixation on this stuff is too much. You're not able to make your points on this subject without being anti-trans. That's the problem here.
& then it's more of a problem when everyone tells you you're wrong & you double down, leaving up the article & defending it tooth & nail in this thread. You respond as if you're the victims to ignore/deflect the reasonable take that you're not talking about this in the right way. The way you're doing it is harmful. Stop playing the victim. You're the ones being harmful.
Once again the brojos sling some baseless sht and then fail to have to courage to defend it.
I'll defend it. I very much wanted to make one thing clear in the article.
A trans woman is not a biological female and I think elite sports should be for biological females. That's it.
I thought the most obvious way to do that was to point out that trans women are born with penises, will never have a period and will never give birth. That last sentence is a fact. If it makes you uncomfortable or if it upsets you, then that's on you as all I'm doing is pointing out a scientific fact. A trans woman isn't a biological female and female isn't just a 10-12% weaker version of a man. THE END.
Saying a trans woman has a penis is the equivalent of saying the n word today. What a world we live in. We are all f******
NCAA tried to change the eligibility rule mid season. They even asked the USA Swimming to craft a new policy.
16 of Thomas' teammates asked UPenn and Ivy League to follow the new USA Swimming policy. Only four of the teammates signed an open letter in support of Thomas. 16-4 looks pretty lopsided to me.
Eventually, NCAA chickened out because they were probably afraid of a potential lawsuit (either from UPenn or Thomas' attorney).
You are supporting my pointwihtout realilzig. The reality is 16 of her teammates were against the policy but they were afraid to sign their names to it. Why? Cause they correctly realized- as this whole thread shows - that the Internet mob and keyboard warriors will come after you. Think about it. People say I'm overacting when I'm talking about China. I'm not. You have Ivy League administrators telling them not to talk.
IF you put your name out there, people falsely lie about what you said or call you transphobic.
lolio wrote: Jesus christ Robert, there's more to being a woman than having a vagina, having a period and giving birth. It's 2022; stop acting like it's 1950.
See someone lies about what I wrote. I make a post pointing out that men and women are different biologically and a woman isn't just a weaker version of a man, and someone falsely claims I'm basically saying women aren't women if they don't have a child. Far from it.
That's why I thought it was important to to mention the word penis in the article. That's another way of pointing out the obvious that men and women are different. Instead of you admiring the fact I'm trying to celebrate the miracle that a women's body can develop and give birth to a baby, people like yourself act like I'm trying to put women back in the kitchen.
Sure. It's quite scary how this country is turning into China on certain matters. We don't have the formal censorship but we might as well.
You own a website that publishes whatever it wants and has arguably the largest bully pulpit in the sport. You feel like this/you are an example of censorship in America? Quite the hot take man.
Do not back down brojos. It is a small vocal minority that are posting against you. Most people agree with you and know you are right. Never back down or apologize or they will have you.