Let's Get DEEP: What Happens After DEATH?

Kind of hard to imagine there is anything when you think about biology and the fact that all organisms are doing the same thing fundamentally

I mean do you think a bacteria goes somewhere or an amoeba or insects

Why would it be any different from more complex organisms like people or dogs or cats

How could you explain scientifically why a person would have an afterlife but an insect would not?

And does it really make sense that all the trillions and trillions of bacteria and insects are existing in another realm after they die?

Ask Lazarus.

Four things are definitive:

1. Will never know if Greg sells his screenplay

2. Will never know if Greg becomes mayor

3. Will never know if Greg plays piano on another cruise ship

4. Will never know if Greg ever gets a job

All I know is that when I reach the pearly gates, I want to see St. Peter and Donald Trump waiting to welcome me.

If God (creator of this place) isn't on the earth or in it, he is an Extra Terrestrial -
'of or from outside the earth or its atmosphere' So whatever ET is responsible for us existing has pretty much already decided. So just enjoy your time on the planet.

You may be right or you may be wrong. There's only one way to find out. You have to die. I have no problem with people who have faith or don't. That's their business, not mine, and I won't judge either side for their faith/believes or lack there of. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but not their own facts based on no credible evidence to support them.

The closest you will ever come to death (outside of actually dying) is anesthesia. No dreaming, no thinking, no memory and time does not exist. Going under for multiple hours of surgery and *bam* you wake up a seeming instant after being put under. The mind does not function (or barely functions) during that period. Death would be like that, but more so. The thinking machinery is destroyed by entropy beginning with the deterioration of neurons from lack of oxygen. If there is a soul that can survive death, surely it wouldn't succumb to mere anesthesia.

No, the closest you can come to death is when your heart has stopped beaten for several minutes, or your brain has been starved of oxygen for mintues, and the doc has declared you clinically dead.

Oddly, thousands of people have experienced this and reported that they leave their bodies, see what's going on in the operating theater, pass through a tunnel, and see deceased relatives and even 'God' etc. Virtually every one states that their experience 'dead' was 1,000 times more 'real' than their ordinary perceptions, like the difference between our daily reality and dreams.

So no, the anaesthesia example is not a good analogy.

Well science can't explain how a human brain can generate consciousness while a bacteria, (presumably) can't. After all, we're all just atoms swirling about in greater or lesser complex arrangements as a result of natural selection.

Every human individual is a unique aspect of the universe that is aware of itself (the universe). Perhaps the universe never 'forgets' these unique aspects, even after the brains that housed them die?

I've been put under a few times. You're right. I went to sleep, no dreams or anything. However I was not clinically dead. So an after life experience I did not have. Although I've known a few people who've drowned and were resuscitated. That claimed they "went somewhere." I can't call them a liar because I did not take that trip with them. Like I posted earlier we just won't know until we die. Well, if there isn't an after life I guess we'll never know. Will we?

From ancient times we've seen that our ancestors had some notion of God or gods. Did they know something we don't know today? Or were they just a superstitious lot? We'll never know I think. What they thought or knew is lost to history. All we have from them are cave paintings a graves with flowers and personal belongings. What was the purpose of that? I haven't a clue. Anyone one else?

Exactly so. There is no credible, independently verifiable evidence that anything happens to humans after their deaths, other than the observable: the decomposition of their bodies, and their constituent molecules' rejoining of the universe.

And the beliefs of many people on a subject do not, by themselves, consitute credible, independently verifiable evidence. To illustrate that general principle, consider that something like a quarter of Americans believe the sun revolves around Earth, rather than vice versa. If we extrapolate that to the rest of the world's human population, and I think we safely can, then something on the order of two billion humans believe that the sun is revolving around Earth.

And they have some evidence, too: "You can set on yer porch on a clear day and *watch* the sun move!" Billions of people believe that the sun revolves around Earth, and no doubt a solid fraction of those believe it with certainty ("I don't just believe it, I *know* it!"); but they're still wrong.

livescience.com

A Quarter of Americans Think the Sun Orbits the Earth ... Sigh (Op-Ed)

@LiveScience

According to a recent poll, more than a quarter of Americans think the sun revolves around the Earth — and it gets worse.

Link:www.livescience.com/43593-americans-ig...

Think about this for a few seconds and it is obvious that hallucinations, tunnels, etc. are simple the result of low oxygen. In addition if you are given mind altering chemicals, or if you dose of anesthesia is not sufficient, you can end up in a semi conscious mind altered state. Occam's razor would explain the out of body experiences you above as a result of that rather than anything more complicated.

When fully anesthetized, the mind is out 99% to the degree that no little processing occurs, and no perceptive memories remain. If there is a soul that can persist the much more thorough destruction of actual death, it would not succumb to anesthesia so easily.

It's just common sense, and no one can convincingly explain it away.

You're dead. You have absolutely no consciousness. So nothing matters anymore. Kind of sad. That's why you got a bunch religious loonies thinking there's an afterlife and that they can watch down on their family. It's a nice thought, but most likely not true.

“For we know that if the earthly tent we live in is destroyed, we have a building from God, an eternal house in heaven, not built by human hands. Meanwhile we groan, longing to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, because when we are clothed, we will not be found naked. For while we are in this tent, we groan and are burdened, because we do not wish to be unclothed but to be clothed instead with our heavenly dwelling, so that what is mortal may be swallowed up by life. Now the one who has fashioned us for this very purpose is God, who has given us the Spirit as a deposit, guaranteeing what is to come. Therefore we are always confident and know that as long as we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord. For we live by faith, not by sight. We are confident, I say, and would prefer to be away from the body and at home with the Lord. So we make it our goal to please him, whether we are at home in the body or away from it. For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each of us may receive what is due us for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.”
‭‭2 Corinthians‬ ‭5‬:‭1‬-‭10‬ ‭NIV‬‬

Hey, I know Bible verses too!
"God" can't beat iron chariots! (Judges 1:19)
Pi = 3! (1 Kings 7:23)
"God" provides a formula for abortion, and requires its use in certain circumstances! (Numbers 5:11-31)
ZOMBIES! (Matthew 27:52-53)

But believe whatever you believe. As long as you don't try to force it on anyone else, it's all good.

That is very sad for Trumpers. They are taught by the orange Jesus to never admit you were wrong or ask for forgiveness!

Starts with being a ghost, that’s a guarantee.