FastTuohy wrote:
How many of the geniuses (me included) on here had NC State anywhere close to 100 points? Some of them went a little too hard early on and paid for it at the end. But I don't think anyone had them in 2nd.
Looks like it was their 7th place finisher who bombed. She was in the mix early on. Anyone know what happen? injury?
I think it was fairly warm today compared to what conditions many of the runners have been training in for last few months and some athletes acclimate to sudden temperature changes better than others do.
As people have said, NC State being second was not predicted. Tuohy coming in 24th on such a tough course given how relatively undertrained she is recovering from injury (she looked winded in her recent 3000m races but much better in her latest 1200 leg, showing her progression) was not predicted at all. People did not even think she would run. Now I'm thinking she has a legitimate shot to win this thing if she is able to get back into her routine, but her "fading" in the last km was inevitable, although she hung very tough. It is a tough race. Dudek was predicted by some on here to be top five; she ended up in the 150s.
Btw the announcer repeated the surgery canard during the broadcast. Must be the cleanest surgery ever performed; did not see a mark.
they have the runner splits up now for each km...Steelman and Chmiel posted a solid time for the 6th km...and so did Tuohy ( I thought she slowed heavily, but actually kept it going). Clairmonte dropped a bit, and Shaw held her times.
Zachgo obviously hit the wall at 5km....too bad for her, but great race up to that point. Well above where she was expected to be.
For Stanford, Dudek was decent until about 3k then started falling. Too bad...she is a great talent.
Yep. She hung tough. it was just a tough last km in the XC nationals.
astro wrote:
As people have said, NC State being second was not predicted. Tuohy coming in 24th on such a tough course given how relatively undertrained she is recovering from injury (she looked winded in her recent 3000m races but much better in her latest 1200 leg, showing her progression) was not predicted at all. People did not even think she would run. Now I'm thinking she has a legitimate shot to win this thing if she is able to get back into her routine, but her "fading" in the last km was inevitable, although she hung very tough. It is a tough race. Dudek was predicted by some on here to be top five; she ended up in the 150s.
Btw the announcer repeated the surgery canard during the broadcast. Must be the cleanest surgery ever performed; did not see a mark.
I'll put this to rest. She had surgery. Believe me.
Jedsdead wrote:
they have the runner splits up now for each km...Steelman and Chmiel posted a solid time for the 6th km...and so did Tuohy ( I thought she slowed heavily, but actually kept it going). Clairmonte dropped a bit, and Shaw held her times.
Zachgo obviously hit the wall at 5km....too bad for her, but great race up to that point. Well above where she was expected to be.
For Stanford, Dudek was decent until about 3k then started falling. Too bad...she is a great talent.
Dudek injured. Their #1 for Stanford looked obliterated. Respect.
After I heard that I am beginning to wonder. Maybe. Just don't see the slightest evidence of it.
Katelynne Hart was around 50th at 4k, then dropped to 75th at 5k....not finish listed so she must have shut it down...unless it is a technical error which is possible. Things were a bit of a mess
Jedsdead wrote:
Katelynne Hart was around 50th at 4k, then dropped to 75th at 5k....not finish listed so she must have shut it down...unless it is a technical error which is possible. Things were a bit of a mess
listed as DNF
Got to say, that is great for Chmiel. She hasn't got enough respect through the years...and I thought really dissed by the Stride report and by Dyestat. This hopefully gets her back her the attention she deserved.
Steelman was great right through...she was solid the entire race. Must say, coming into this year I thought she would be good, but she surpassed all expectations.
Savannah Shaw deserves notice as well. In the last KM when most people were nosediving, she gained 25 spots to score for NC.
And Clairmonte obviously was not in race day shape, but good for her to come in 51st.
was there an update on Dudek?
Jedsdead wrote:
was there an update on Dudek?
Yes. She's overrated!
astro wrote:
As people have said, NC State being second was not predicted. Tuohy coming in 24th on such a tough course given how relatively undertrained she is recovering from injury (she looked winded in her recent 3000m races but much better in her latest 1200 leg, showing her progression) was not predicted at all. People did not even think she would run. Now I'm thinking she has a legitimate shot to win this thing if she is able to get back into her routine, but her "fading" in the last km was inevitable, although she hung very tough. It is a tough race. Dudek was predicted by some on here to be top five; she ended up in the 150s.
Btw the announcer repeated the surgery canard during the broadcast. Must be the cleanest surgery ever performed; did not see a mark.
I know an ex NCS runner who is connected with the team and stated that they only had 3 athletes who ran without some type of issue today. They really wanted to win, but finishing 2nd is excellent under the circumstances.
Jedsdead wrote:
was there an update on Dudek?
on crutches afterwards. But didn't look right from the start - was never with the leaders
I think we all just saw the start of a huge rivalry between BYU and NC State the next 4 years! They will be the two dominate teams, with Stanford and NM stirring things up. Everyone is back for both teams and their rosters have a lost of underclassmen as well.
astro wrote:
After I heard that I am beginning to wonder. Maybe. Just don't see the slightest evidence of it.
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TrackCoach wrote:
I know an ex NCS runner who is connected with the team and stated that they only had 3 athletes who ran without some type of issue today. They really wanted to win, but finishing 2nd is excellent under the circumstances.
Isn't that part of the challenge? Show up to the line healthy & ready?
just saw the race on youtube...Dudek was right behind Tuohy for awhile. She didn't look injured.
Towards the end of the race she just looked wiped. Be interesting to see how she is doing later on.
Got to say those top 5 looked awesome.
Chelangat was smooth the entire run. Roe was solid. Tyynisma looks scary good.
Morris and Steelman were steady. And then some carnage started to happen.
Got to say that I like seeing XC on a tough course!!
Dudek was never right behind Tuohy. If you look at the results page, they have the splits for each k. She looked awful at the 800 meter mark.