LetsRun is proud that they thought disparaging a tenuous sport was a good idea - get more clicks and keep an idiot son employed. I hope they enjoy what is left of this sport. Good luck Rojo.
LetsRun is proud that they thought disparaging a tenuous sport was a good idea - get more clicks and keep an idiot son employed. I hope they enjoy what is left of this sport. Good luck Rojo.
Kenyan girls are sexy wrote:
Can not confirm non-running but 7 counties near San Francisco have imposed full lockdown and stay in houses. If so I would assume it includes outdoor running.
Actually it does not include running:
The rules for "Shelter in Place" for the Bay Area specifically say, as part of the essential activities allowed to occur:
"● To engage in outdoor activities like walking, hiking or running, while keeping six feet away from others."
Calfornia as a whole has "guidance" that people over 65 should self-isolate in their homes. I'm treating that as subject to the rule above. For me, over 65 but in excellent health, no exercise is a greater risk to my physical and mental health than CV, and the chances of catching it while running solo are negligible.
The theory is that even stepping outside you may either transmit or contact the virus, even if the chance is near 0. The situation is so serious that some governments are taking no chances. I think what's happening in Spain is probably a good idea, for at 2 weeks to see if it has any effects. Then they can adjust from there.
Age is turning out to be a major factor in serious illness for Corona. Age 65 places you at very high risk if you contract the virus. What's to keep you from exercising in the house? Stairs? Pushups? Pullups? Jumping jacks? Treadmill and other equipment? The more citizens that authorities see out and about in hot zone areas, the more aggressive and stringent the rules will become for everyone.
longboat wrote:
For me, over 65 but in excellent health, no exercise is a greater risk to my physical and mental health than CV, and the chances of catching it while running solo are negligible.
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
enlightenment ones wrote:
None yet in the States. Coming soon to a city near you?
San Francisco, no one outside of their home after midnight.
Except for the homeless. Or have the trucks removed them already.
Soylent green is humans.
Racewalkers have banned running.
Wejo if the Edmonton mayor goes whacko and bans running, promise me I can be on the podcast.
UmbrellaMan wrote:
This is what I am most afraid of. I don't have a treadmill so will I not be able to run? Will I be able to run around my neighborhood?
If it comes to that, I'm ordering a treadmill on Amazon.
Wildhorse wrote:
Kvothe wrote:
In another thread, some girl living in Spain said Spain had banned running.
As a Spaniard, I can give details. Citizens are only allowed outside in the following cases:
-go buy groceries
-go to the doctor/hospital/farmacy
-go to work
-go to the bank/atm
-walk the dog
-to care for the elderly/disabled
And special circunstances like emergencies and so on. I think that's about it.
No running. No biking. No going to the beach. Those who refuse to comply are given a warning, then fined.
To answer wejo - outdoor activities are healthy unless they mean you're catching and/or spreading a very contagious, potentially deadly disease.
Sweet, having a dog that likes to run is a loophole!
Wildhorse wrote:
Read this:
https://sciencebasedmedicine.org/covid-19-update-what-you-need-to-know/
I read that . It says nothing about not exercising. NO American cities have banned solo exercising and I haven’t read anything from a scientist saying people shouldn’t be allowed to run with social distancing.
If you disagree with this feel free to state your case but I see lots of reason to advocate governments allow their people to walk and exercise outside with proper social distancing. I am glad it looks like the vast vast majority of places in the world are allowing this as it seems like good social policy.
LetsGettheNewOut wrote:
LetsRun is proud that they thought disparaging a tenuous sport was a good idea - get more clicks and keep an idiot son employed. I hope they enjoy what is left of this sport. Good luck Rojo.
What do you mean? We love running so what sport are you talking about? And I am wejo not rojo.
Any entity that wants to ban outdoor activities like running are morans. Viruses don’t survive well outdoors in sunlight and air that is constantly being changed out. Fortunately I live next to a fairly rural area with some old dirt ranch roads that are nice and hilly.
I'll just stop on the way home from work, change in the truck, and run dirt fire roads that I see maybe one person a year on.
Or from home I'll run with my dog.
I'm anti-social and avoid people in general, so there's that.
wejo wrote:
From everything I’ve read there is no reason to ban outdoor solo exercise so I’m curious what places if any have banned outdoor exercise. If I’m wrong let me know why. My belief is exercise and getting outside is good for our health. Ideally as a society we prohibit the activities that are only absolutely necessary to stop the spread of this.
There were reports on here yesterday Austria banned outdoor exercise but then someone said it wasn’t the case. The San Francisco order to stay inside allows outdoor exercise so it’s not banned anywhere in the US.
What places if any have banned it and why?
Tyrol state of Austria has a hard curfew with a 2000 Euro fine. Tyrol is a mix of Austrians and Italians. State of Tyrol in Austria has Austria's highest numbers of corona-19 virus. If you heard there are no problems in Austria, you must have heard from someone spending time in another state of Austria.
FixxxxxedIt4U wrote:
Age is turning out to be a major factor in serious illness for Corona. Age 65 places you at very high risk if you contract the virus. What's to keep you from exercising in the house? Stairs? Pushups? Pullups? Jumping jacks? Treadmill and other equipment?
The more citizens that authorities see out and about in hot zone areas, the more aggressive and stringent the rules will become for everyone.
longboat wrote:
For me, over 65 but in excellent health, no exercise is a greater risk to my physical and mental health than CV, and the chances of catching it while running solo are negligible.
No treadmill, it's SoCal ffs. I cross-train, but runners run.
Actually if one looks at the mortality rate, it's highly correlated to other health conditions:
PRE-EXISTING CONDITION DEATH RATE
(from
https://www.worldometersdot info/coronavirus/coronavirus-age-sex-demographics/)
DEATH RATE
all cases
Cardiovascular disease 10.5%
Diabetes 7.3%
Chronic respiratory disease 6.3%
Hypertension 6.0%
Cancer 5.6%
No pre-existing conditions 0.9% Note: Regardless of Age
It's also correlated to age, although the CDC suggests age 70 is the takeoff point rather than 65. I haven't yet found the numbers that would sort out how much of that is due to covariance of Age with Pre-existing Conditions, but I'll bet it's a lot, particularly in the older cohorts. In fact I'll bet my life on that! ;)
So I consider myself, in excellent health and barely over 65, not overweight (but not runner-skinny) to have risk equivalent to a 55-ish person in average health. Running keeps me healthy, and it's an extremely low risk activity for CV. (BTW, my doctor, off the record, agrees with my assessment.)
As far as "more citizens on the street", everyone up to 65 is allowed to run, so a few in-shape 65+'s who could pass as considerably younger are not going to make a difference. To this stage at least (and in the Bay Area's stricter rules), total self-isolation at home is a suggestion rather than a command.
See you on the streets!
Correct. Just saw the news. Hiking or biking or exercise outdoors is permissible but with ‘social distancing.’
Wildhorse wrote:
Kvothe wrote:
In another thread, some girl living in Spain said Spain had banned running.
As a Spaniard, I can give details. Citizens are only allowed outside in the following cases:
-go buy groceries
-go to the doctor/hospital/farmacy
-go to work
-go to the bank/atm
-walk the dog
-to care for the elderly/disabled
And special circunstances like emergencies and so on. I think that's about it.
No running. No biking. No going to the beach. Those who refuse to comply are given a warning, then fined.
To answer wejo - outdoor activities are healthy unless they mean you're catching and/or spreading a very contagious, potentially deadly disease.
So dogs in Spain have a right to exercise but not people.
The government want to encourage everyone who can to work from home, but you're not allowed out to even exercise if you do. At least those going to work get some fresh air and movement.
People on other threads are talking about running weakening the immune system, but surely a complete lack of exercise will do that far more?
From what I've read, the virus is killed quite quickly outdoors by sunlight. A non-running rule would make far more sense in northern countries than sunny Spain.
To those who are confident running will still be permitted in the USA - it might be true, but it doesn't mean that you wont get filthy looks or even yelled at as you pass parents walking their children etc.
Coevett wrote:
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To those who are confident running will still be permitted in the USA - it might be true, but it doesn't mean that you wont get filthy looks or even yelled at as you pass parents walking their children etc.
And what are those parents with children doing outside? Can't you give them equally filthy looks?
Anyhow, the problem with this topic is the question "can you run outside" is very vague. No authority under national emergency will say qualified "yes", because then that become a loophole. Even the sensible guideline in some of Europe under quarantine (outdoor exercise alone OK if keeeping distance of 1 meter when passing) can be harmful when applied in the wrong context. It may be okay in small town around the Alps or the countryside, but can be a loophole in the beach of Castelldefels Barcelona (equivalent to Chicago lake shore or Boston Charles river bank), where they can be packed with runners (even if all running solos) and invite non-runners to go out simply by dressing up like one.
tarckstar wrote:
I'll just stop on the way home from work, change in the truck, and run dirt fire roads that I see maybe one person a year on.
Or from home I'll run with my dog.
I'm anti-social and avoid people in general, so there's that.
More likely to encounter a rattlesnake on the run if you run a more remote route. Especially with it warming up.
Hi Wejo,
Yes, outdoor exercise is banned in some areas (public roads). You can simply do squats standing in place, for instance; I dare anyone to say this won’t tire them out fairly quickly. Repeat as necessary.
Sheltering in place has always been necessary, humans are perfectly capable of doing so. Our ancestors were often pinned down by unfavorable weather, lack of food, enemies/predators, nursing/protecting offspring, or the necessity to wait for allies at a rendezvous point. We call it depression, normally a temporary “down” phase.