LDoc wrote:
Jambo Cabao wrote:
What I'd like to ask him is if they WADA gave him an explicit green light to take as many PEDs as he'd like, or if he plans to retire soon, considering he's bound to be caught sooner or later.
Glad you're barely literate; a well-crafted post of this sh*t would have depressed me.
What's your home address?
LDoc wrote:
Jambo Cabao wrote:
What I'd like to ask him is if they WADA gave him an explicit green light to take as many PEDs as he'd like, or if he plans to retire soon, considering he's bound to be caught sooner or later.
Glad you're barely literate; a well-crafted post of this sh*t would have depressed me.
+1
Again? When has Kipchoge not been really fit?
bartholomew_maxwell wrote:
rgege wrote:
You need to go away. You are polluting the boards on a daily basis.
90% of my threads are directly tied to running and training. Sorry, no cigar for you.
And all 100% of your 90% are still trash. I honestly wonder sometimes what posters like are are like in real life. Maybe you’re just a normal guy that secretly wants to be a dîckhead, but is maybe too small or too shy to be that way in real life, so you come to these forums to flush out your angst. Or maybe you’re just the same dîckhead in real life that you seem to be here on these forums.
Confidence is a drug wrote:
A 60:00 opening half wouldn't surprise me.
It should unless you are a looney.
high school xc coach wrote:
planted story to try to scare Bekele from competing.
I agree.
This is to try and stop Bekele.
Unfortunately, it has worked and Bekele will not be there.............or, just in case he shows up, will pull up lame at the 30km mark.
This should not have been reported.
There is something in Kenya we call 'chini ya maji'.
This literally mean 'under the water' or 'under water'.
It simply means flying under the radar. They should have just let this piece of information slide by and reveal it after the actual race.
Aussiestatman wrote:
I would like to see Reuben Kiprop Kipyego, Eric Kiptanui, and Emmanuel Saina. And one of them to drop with the second and third elite men after half way when they start to tire. I want to see three sub 2.02. This could be the perfect storm of talent, shoes, and current rules that may never align again.
Very good take, besides being a world class runner you need to know how to pace a race and have some experience.
Reuben Kiprop Kipyego is a pacer and competitor at the highest level, totally agree.
Eric Kiptanui is good, it could be there given he's from the same NN Running Team, paced Kipchoge before and seemed fit in Dubai, however he's nowhere near that 2018 form unfortunately.
Emmanuel Saina was a big revelation and the same as Reuben he was used as a pacer in big races several times. Unfortunately got injured in the fall and wasn't himself at all, no results yet in 2020 would make me skip him from this conversation.
I would place a deadline to take athletes into consideration at 4 weeks prior to London as it's enough time to recover from a half and there are 3 important races to come (Prague Half, Lisbon Half and the Half World Champs). From his own camp Chumo would be a good choice and let's not forget about Gideon Kipketer who is listed as a competitor in the race and could prove a 4th de facto personal pacemaker.
I'll leave this here, very interesting take, London is about 20-25" slower than Berlin, given the slight undulations and turns
LONDON MARATHON 2020 - 26 APRIL
-------------------------------
MILE 1 +2,4"
MILE 2 +3,6"
MILE 3 -15,2"
MILE 4 -2,6"
MILE 5 -2,4"
MILE 6 +0,0"
MILE 7 +3,8"
MILE 8 -1,2"
MILE 9 +5,0"
MILE 10 +1,0"
------------- -5,6"
MILE 11 -1,2"
MILE 12 +0,8"
MILE 13 +6,0"
MILE 14 +0,2"
MILE 15 -0,6"
MILE 16 +0,8"
MILE 17 +3,2"
MILE 18 +2,2"
MILE 19 +4,6"
MILE 20 -1,4"
------------- +14,6"
MILE 21 +4,0"
MILE 22 +1,6"
MILE 23 +3,6"
MILE 24 -2,4"
MILE 25 +1,0"
MILE 26 +2,4"
FINISH +0,8"
------------- +11,0"
ELEV = +20,0"
TURNS = +16,2"
-------------------
TOTAL = +36,2" ( to a perfectly flat, out and back course)
Everything will depend on the day with the pacemaking and weather. If the pacemakers to a steady job, stay well together and go to 25km it will be crazy. Let's hope it will be chilly and not humid with as little wind as possible.
The difference to the Ineos 1:59 will be around +30-32" given elevations differences and turns. Weather could be just as good but probably a bit windier and pacemaking certainly less ideal so we can think of another +10" due to weather and 20-30" due to pacemaking. We could look at a total of +60-70" compared to Ineos 1:59.
Kipchoge ran there 1:59:41 and was definitely not all out at the end. He could have gone faster, so is a 60:30 opening half in London given it's downhill and a lot faster than the second that crazy? No i don't think so, i even think he might feel it's too slow and ask for 60:15 maybe 60:00 if weather is really perfect. Some might say if he goes out in 60 flat he bonks, but it won't be the case in this shape, with ideal weather he could be very close to that shape in London and maybe able to crack it on a faster course like Berlin.
He is on an IV of banned substances but he will go too fast and get a stitch. Bekele ftw.
He has ran sub 2, why is he going out that slow?
Give him 3 sub 60 pacers and it's INEOS all over again for at least halfway.
What people don't understand is in that sub 2 he was holding back! He can go 1:58 easy.
Banana Bread wrote:
Boris Johnson is probably learning about Kipchoge's planned pace in London, shaking his head and chuckling away as he sips a glass of Earl Grey.
A glass???!?!?
How many pacers will Kipchoge have? Have many pacers will Bekele have? How many pacers will Geremew have? Is Shitata running this?
Indeed it could be Ineos 1:59 all over again, 3 pacemakers in the same formation and the other competitor who will hang on will take place of those pacers at the back of the group to ensure the smooth transition of the air stream.
You know what's funny? Bekele runs 60:22 for the half as a tune-up, yes, it was a solo run and definitely not yet in top shape, but Kipchoge announces a few days after he actually wants to go out in a marathon at that pace if not even faster. Definitely there is an indirect trash talking between them or at least their teams.
dodge ball wrote:
How many pacers will Kipchoge have? Have many pacers will Bekele have? How many pacers will Geremew have? Is Shitata running this?
Kipchoge will pace Bekele. And Bekele will outkick him in the last 400 via superior talent.
Magic Flow wrote:
dodge ball wrote:
How many pacers will Kipchoge have? Have many pacers will Bekele have? How many pacers will Geremew have? Is Shitata running this?
Kipchoge will pace Bekele. And Bekele will outkick him in the last 400 via superior talent.
Honestly, would be pretty amazing and enjoyable.
How cool is it that we know a fast time is coming? Kipchoge ALWAYS goes for it. Totally fearless.
I think we’ll see 3 or 4 top 10 times run besides his own.
Could this be a psyche out? Kipchoge trying to intimidate Bekele and others? We know Kipchoge can go out in 60 and hang on, but can the others? We could see some massive blow ups like Desisa at the Breaking2 project.
On Rupp:
Jambo Cabao wrote:
You'd have to be an assshole to not route for Rupp.
On Kipchoge:
Jambo Cabao wrote:
What I'd like to ask him is if they WADA gave him an explicit green light to take as many PEDs as he'd like, or if he plans to retire soon, considering he's bound to be caught sooner or later.
I thought this too, but the hype might prove real.
1.His confidence is the highest it has ever been
2.His shape seems to be the same as before Ineos
3.The best possible technology, great pacers, etc
->60:00-60:30 might not be crazy at all
Bekele will be good if he already ran a solo 60:22 on a windy day, it will be a huge clash.
Wasihun will be good, ran 59:47 in RAK, will get better until race day.
Kitata showed good signs, ran the same 59:47, will probably get in 2:03-2:04 shape himself.
Kipserem was really poor in London Half
Moen will DNF or run 2:12-2:15 if he goes out with the leaders
Mosinet Geremew and Tamirat Tola are yet to race this year but they are very consistent.
Vincent Kipchumba had an incredible 2019, yet to race in 2020 but could prove a dark horse.
Disko Eric wrote:
Could this be a psyche out? Kipchoge trying to intimidate Bekele and others? We know Kipchoge can go out in 60 and hang on, but can the others? We could see some massive blow ups like Desisa at the Breaking2 project.
Intimidating Bekele? I don't think that it is possible. Bekele has never been interested by Kenyans mind game over all the years when he was on the track.
He has the suprememe confidence of the athlete who believe that they are the very best when healthy and that no one can compare to them if they show up in top shape.
Kipchoge won't go out in 60:00, that's for sure. His Ineos freakshow is irrelevant and can't be compared to a real race.