tally wrote:
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Cuffe has a ton of road results from this year
https://www.worldathletics.org/athletes/united-states/aisling-cuffe-257667None of those results are higher quality than the 15:55 on the track in 2019 that I mentioned.
Yeah wasn’t intending to argue. Just saying we have a pretty good grasp of her current fitness on the roads and track. Don’t really need to go back.
Though as a follow-up wouldn’t a 15:55 on the Abbott (Central Park) course be somewhat superior to on the track. I am assuming it is somewhat hilly (thought I haven’t run it or the Marathon). Certainly the times on the men’s and women’s side for the winners were about 40 seconds off what they could run on the track.
Full circle, nice to see Cuffe, Cain and Tuohy all in the same race. No reason to bust on Mary, it's great to see her out running and competing. I hope all 3 are in good form this spring.
tally wrote:
Cuffe's results have been thin in recent years. Best of 15:55 last year. Before that, have to go back to 2016 for a 15:35.
Third place Macumber ran a 15:30 PB last summer.
Starliper finished 30 seconds ahead of Ewert after finishing 16 seconds behind her last week. Ewert may have been slightly worse than at NXN but no doubt Starliper was a whole lot better this week. Dudek had to be very good to beat her.
Marlee is more of a pure miler, she suffered horribly in the slop, but looked much springier at Balboa with good footing.
How far is "6K" ?
Great for Tuohy...nice to see her bounce back strong!! Thats a very impressive avg km time for a 6k in bad conditions.
I'm going to say 2 other things:
1) I was never a fan of Cain....I don't mean that negatively, just was never really into her career. But great for Cain to get back racing...regardless of all the drama, and whether or not you agree with her comments against AS...nice to see a young lady come back and start racing competitively. I hope she continues to progress.
2) Can we stop with the Dudek would have done this crap, or Tuohy would have done that.....Dudek had a great race today and fully deserves all the credit and accolades wth winning a highly competitive race. And Tuohy does nothing but continue to impress. That is a fantastic result for this race!! Making ridiculous speculations does nothing but take away from their accomplishments.
This new class of NCAA recruits is going to be incredible!!
as an aside...any idea where a replay of Tuohy's race will be posted??
Just askin wrote:
How far is "6K" ?
3.73 miles = 6000m
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Though as a follow-up wouldn’t a 15:55 on the Abbott (Central Park) course be somewhat superior to on the track. I am assuming it is somewhat hilly (thought I haven’t run it or the Marathon). Certainly the times on the men’s and women’s side for the winners were about 40 seconds off what they could run on the track.
40 seconds? Rotich was 17 seconds off his track 13:31.
Rowbury is hard to figure, given her comeback. Second place Tonn ran 15:44 and hasn't run sub-15:30 since 2015.
Cuffe was a lot closer to Infeld than she was at Reebok 10k a couple of weeks earlier where she only ran 34 minutes for 10k.
I think giving Cuffe 15:45 shape would be very fair, maybe generous.
Great race for Cain. She was 1 second behind Claire Green who has run 16:53 for 5k this year. On the right day, Cain could surely break 17min for 5k.
Hhdjdjdj wrote:
Great race for Cain. She was 1 second behind Claire Green who has run 16:53 for 5k this year. On the right day, Cain could surely break 17min for 5k.
Cain is a sub 2 min 800m runner, and a 1500m runner by nature. Tuohy et al. are slower, longer types. XC will always be tougher for her. Shows Cain is getting decent fitness back at least.
Jedsdead wrote:
Great for Tuohy...nice to see her bounce back strong!! Thats a very impressive avg km time for a 6k in bad conditions.
I'm going to say 2 other things:
1) I was never a fan of Cain....I don't mean that negatively, just was never really into her career. But great for Cain to get back racing...regardless of all the drama, and whether or not you agree with her comments against AS...nice to see a young lady come back and start racing competitively. I hope she continues to progress.
2) Can we stop with the Dudek would have done this crap, or Tuohy would have done that.....Dudek had a great race today and fully deserves all the credit and accolades wth winning a highly competitive race. And Tuohy does nothing but continue to impress. That is a fantastic result for this race!! Making ridiculous speculations does nothing but take away from their accomplishments.
This new class of NCAA recruits is going to be incredible!!
as an aside...any idea where a replay of Tuohy's race will be posted??
Agree on the comparisons, it is pointless.
Video should be here when the post it
https://clubxcchampionship.runnerspace.com/fastTuohy wrote:
Jedsdead wrote:
Great for Tuohy...nice to see her bounce back strong!! Thats a very impressive avg km time for a 6k in bad conditions.
I'm going to say 2 other things:
1) I was never a fan of Cain....I don't mean that negatively, just was never really into her career. But great for Cain to get back racing...regardless of all the drama, and whether or not you agree with her comments against AS...nice to see a young lady come back and start racing competitively. I hope she continues to progress.
2) Can we stop with the Dudek would have done this crap, or Tuohy would have done that.....Dudek had a great race today and fully deserves all the credit and accolades wth winning a highly competitive race. And Tuohy does nothing but continue to impress. That is a fantastic result for this race!! Making ridiculous speculations does nothing but take away from their accomplishments.
This new class of NCAA recruits is going to be incredible!!
as an aside...any idea where a replay of Tuohy's race will be posted??
Agree on the comparisons, it is pointless.
Video should be here when the post it
https://clubxcchampionship.runnerspace.com/
Thanks fast Tuohy
tally wrote:
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
Though as a follow-up wouldn’t a 15:55 on the Abbott (Central Park) course be somewhat superior to on the track. I am assuming it is somewhat hilly (thought I haven’t run it or the Marathon). Certainly the times on the men’s and women’s side for the winners were about 40 seconds off what they could run on the track.
40 seconds? Rotich was 17 seconds off his track 13:31.
Rowbury is hard to figure, given her comeback. Second place Tonn ran 15:44 and hasn't run sub-15:30 since 2015.
Cuffe was a lot closer to Infeld than she was at Reebok 10k a couple of weeks earlier where she only ran 34 minutes for 10k.
I think giving Cuffe 15:45 shape would be very fair, maybe generous.
Sorry I was a bit off. Rowbury did run 15:05 this year, so that’s what I was thinking of. Rotich kind of a wild card I know 13:31 is his PB but his fitness is different now coming back from all his stuff. Templeton has been running great I think he’d be in the 13:20s. Idk how 10 seconds faster on a track than Abbott is generous. I’d say 15-25 is more realistic. I think Cuffe is in very good shape at the moment.
Cuffe just off the mix at Manchester, 20 secs behind Edna Kiplagat, Sally kipyego and Molly Sidell. So, all things considered, Cuffe in excellent shape, 15:20 - 15:30 5k judging by finish in comparison to sub 15 min ladies. Putting Tuohy in that same range...
So much for the BlowJoes snarky digs at Tuohy. Hopefully she’ll get a fast 5 k in at the BU or armory track this winter and then the BlowJoes can really eat crow.
jonnyjinlondon wrote:
Hhdjdjdj wrote:
Great race for Cain. She was 1 second behind Claire Green who has run 16:53 for 5k this year. On the right day, Cain could surely break 17min for 5k.
Cain is a sub 2 min 800m runner, and a 1500m runner by nature. Tuohy et al. are slower, longer types. XC will always be tougher for her. Shows Cain is getting decent fitness back at least.
Great race for both Tuohy and Cain. Tuohy beat some sub-16:00 5000 women and Cain was with the leaders through 3.5K. Not a surprise from Tuohy, but I had no idea Cain was still running.
three phenoms wrote:
Full circle, nice to see Cuffe, Cain and Tuohy all in the same race. No reason to bust on Mary, it's great to see her out running and competing. I hope all 3 are in good form this spring.
Definitely ! 3 of the legends of New York cross country . Mary was with the leaders at 3.5 k so she is getting back on her game
Tuohy should have been at home sleeping in and doing homework.
it's off season!
why not just be a kid for a minute?
AUSTON MARNER wrote:
Tuohy should have been at home sleeping in and doing homework.
it's off season!
why not just be a kid for a minute?
STFU.
This is just a testament for how lackluster racing is on the women’s side, America is barely competitive and it’s obvious when a kid shows up and smokes everyone.
Hejendo76 wrote:
That’s what im saying. Tuohy was clearly the best high school girls runner this year. NXN was just a blip that she happened to overcome
Best high school girl xc runner ever. Ever. Why is this even a question? Cain May still have her best in track but as far as XC goes there is 0 competition no matter how you try to spin it.