NCAA Division I Cross Country "REAL" All Americans List

and we call you... wrote:

high school xc coach wrote:

People from those countries do not typically refer to themselves as Americans. The USA has the word America in our country's name. Thus, we call ourselves Americans.

...and the rest of the world calls you 'AsshoIes.'

- I am open to foreign universities competing here in the United States ... bringing both their talent & tourism. For example, if Lickety led the NAIA we would have already reached-out to both Canada, Mexico, and OUR other territories (both organized & unincorporated) colleges/universities and made a membership "pitch." In fact, this is the "space" where BYU and the other Mormon-based schools should compete given the liberal age-limit.

- The distinguishing feature of Lickety's NAIA being low-cost, limited rules, and a "Pan-Am Games" flair in every contest. Obviously we would rename it & replace All-American w/All-PanAm.

- The NCAA should have been ashamed of itself when they made a "Mormon Mission" as such a glaring exception. No other religious-based school such as Notre Dame, Liberty, etc. comes even close to exploiting such a deliberate loophole.

- The NCAA should have been ashamed of itself when they made a "Mormon Mission" as such a glaring exception. No other religious-based school such as Notre Dame, Liberty, etc. comes even close to exploiting such a deliberate loophole.[/quote]

Liberty is the school that initially got the eligibility waivers for Ednah Kurgat to receive full eligibility at the age of 23. She turned 28 years old in June, and just finished her eligibility this season. I believe a large part of their argument had to have been a religious mission of some sort so I am not sure that you can say Liberty does not "exploit such a deliberate loophole." A school does not have to have religious affiliation in order to take advantage of religious missions/military/gap year trying to qualify for the national team waivers. You have issues man. Accept that the system is this way or get out. Don't just start bashing people because of where they come from. I have a pretty strong feeling of who you voted for in the last election...if you could even vote at all.

So what tribal affiliation or reservation do they all come from?

bigot wrote:

I believe a large part of their argument had to have been a religious mission of some sort so I am not sure that you can say Liberty does not "exploit such a deliberate loophole.”

Much like Liberty’s students, your belief is wrong.

supportz wrote:

bigot wrote:

I believe a large part of their argument had to have been a religious mission of some sort so I am not sure that you can say Liberty does not "exploit such a deliberate loophole.”

Much like Liberty’s students, your belief is wrong.

How was it done?

why wrote:

supportz wrote:

Much like Liberty’s students, your belief is wrong.

How was it done?

Why don't you tell us. Anyone has full eligibility when they first enroll in college regardless of their age, no loophole needed.

Why don't you tell us. Anyone has full eligibility when they first enroll in college regardless of their age, no loophole needed.[/quote]

You are wildly wrong my friend.

You said that they used a religious exemption to allow Ednah to be a freshman at Liberty. I said BS. Put up or shut up.

I said that I believe they would have had to use a religious mission waiver to get her full eligibility. You saying that that is wrong makes it seem like you know how it was done. Is this correct, or are you just talking to talk? Do you have any reading comprehension skills? There are probably exercises online that you can complete to work on that.

"I believe a large part of their argument had to have been"

Put up or shut up

It used to be reserved for only Americans, and was top 20 Americans. It got to the point where people didn't like having to try and count during the race where they were and if they were in that top 20 American list because you couldn't always tell who was and who wasn't American. They found that the 20th American always seemed to be just under 40th place. Then they changed it to be anyone in top 40 was All-American, thus not requiring to try and count how many Americans were in front of you, it was just counting people in general. That's why it's top 40. According to this list, it's easier than it used to be because there are only 8 foreign athletes in the real top 40.

Dipshittery at it's best wrote:

Ever looked at a map before? You are one stupid mother f*cker aren't you?

Someone from Mexico is an AMERICAN

Someone from Canada is an AMERICAN

Someone from Guatemala is an AMERICAN

This is why the rest of the country thinks people from the US are stupid and arrogant.

I think you mean WORLD not COUNTRY. Country implies US. Maybe people from the US thinks people from the US are stupid and ignorant, but the tone of your statement implies world and not country. As for Mexico, Guatemala and Canada, how many US citizens are given scholarships to compete for their collegiate teams. I did a cursory search of rosters for CCAA teams (like the Red Deer Kings and the St. Clair Saints) and I couldn't find a single US citizen on any of their rosters (although the South Alberta Institute of Technology Trojans did have a Kenyan, which was the only foreigner I could find on any team's roster). It's a one-way street.

Why not make it top 40 and American to qualify?

All powerful and all knowing wrote:

Why not make it top 40 and American to qualify?

Why not make it top 40 and a US citizen to qualify?

Lickety Split wrote:

- Never said that foreign student-athletes COULD NOT compete, just that they are INELIGIBLE to be considered an "All-American."

Never heard this shite when the Irish and English were providing many of the top foreign runners.

Uncle B wrote:

Lickety Split wrote:

- Never said that foreign student-athletes COULD NOT compete, just that they are INELIGIBLE to be considered an "All-American."

Never heard this shite when the Irish and English were providing many of the top foreign runners.

Obviously not. The current criteria (top 40 regardless of citizenship) has only been used since 2008.

- Yes you did ... it's been going on for awhile.

- What a crowd ... you celebrate the Top 40 Americans at the NCAAs & all you get is being called a racist, xenophobic, & other BS.

Lickety Split wrote:

- Yes you did ... it's been going on for awhile.

- What a crowd ... you celebrate the Top 40 Americans at the NCAAs & all you get is being called a racist, xenophobic, & other BS.

I agree. I would also go so far as to petition the NCAA to forbid athletic scholarships to international students.

The student debt crisis in America is out of control. Why the hell are we taking scholarships out of the hands of citizens and giving them to foreigners? Studies have shown college debt is a big reason why home ownership is down and birth rates are down - people don't have the money to start those parts of their lives due to crippling student loan debt.