BREAKING - WADA TO INVESTIGATE ALL NOP ATHLETES

LoneStarXC wrote:

casual obsever wrote:

Yeah right. Let me guess: a very tough internal investigation, with no details published, that will result in "nothing to see here".

Unfortunately, I think this is how the “investigation” will end up. WADA just wants to create the appearance of doing something. Like the Jama Aden saga, where a police raid literally found 19 syringes pre-loaded with EPO, Aden was arrested, but nothing happened to the athletes.

Just what I was thinking.

Every NOPer is a doper.

Salazar: "It isn't possible to be a world class runner or Olympic medalist without PEDs."

As if they weren't tested before? And would not have had a scare (if reasons for being scared) when the ban was spoken in Doha. (The only one who seemed somewhat unsettled in Doha was Murphy, all the others didn't seem impeded in their performance.)

Regardless of what one believes about the NOP athletes, they were all racing frequently, most of them live/train in western countries where there is easy access for OOC testers. Additionally, most records require extra tests and the NOP ran about two world records and a lot of national records in the last season. Why should previously announced testing off season yield different results from standard random testing that is usually not announced (except when required for records, not all of which might have been planned).

Thomas Bach calls for an investigation of NOP athletes. I can't stand Salazar and the many in the NOP group but Bach is the world's biggest hypocrite. The charges against Russia were far more ugly, not just systemic doping but tampering with anti-doping. On top of that, there was far more damning evidence and Bach did everything he could to keep Russia in the Olympics. As part of the coverup, Russia may have killed people. Let's keep these in perspective, Salazar and some of the NOP athletes may be cheaters but compares to the stuff Bach and IOC has let slide in the past they're the last ones who should be calling for anything. In fact, it's time Bach and the leadership at WADA should all go, because they've played a significant role in allowing this doping problem to go unchecked for so many years and get out of control. Not to say they could have prevented doping from coming, it was here before them and anti-doping will always be at a disadvantage. But they've incompetent and complicit stooges in the mess.

Totally unfair as WADA chose not to investigate Jama Aden's athletes, even though he was arrested at training camp with syringes and EPO with world record holders and reigning Olympic gold medalists staying with him. Lord Coe better work some magic to keep Mo and UK Athletics out of this.

They are coming for Mo Farah medals !!!!

Tariku Bekele to become Olympic champion...... It would be so great, so glorious to see the sport being cleaned from NOP mildew....

waddleOff wrote:

WaddleOn wrote:

Any time I hear an athlete or group referred to as the "most tested athlete (s) on Earth" I instantly assume they are doping.

Yes, and anytime I hear about whole countries not being able to test OOC I assume that their athletes are clean.

+1

Shoot, if they're the most tested athletes on Earth with no doping positives, they must have a helluva sophisticated doping regimen. I think it's funny how they pushed the infusion limit on a perfectly legal drug, then did a testosterone experiment, but everyone acts like all the athletes over there are taking EPO with some masking agent no one has ever heard off.

You have just created a fantasy scenario based on uniform information . The media press release would never disclose what "evidence " it has that wasn't disclosed by USADA in the case against Saladbar.

All we have is Paula Radcliffe's uniformed decision that NOP athlete's are clean . I expect Jordan H and Rupp will come out soon saying they were actually coached by Pete.

Kara the hypocrite wrote:

Will Kara be investigated as well? Or only current NOP?

She is pretty much retired. Meanwhile the real hypocrite is Rupp who is trying to make the Olympic team.

This goes nowhere. Nike pumps entirely too much money into the IOC that they wouldn't dare kill golden goose. They'll do their "due diligence" and won't nail anybody, then hit the PR trail to proclaim their toughness on all athletes.

Hear me now, believe me later.

ncrecuvuer wrote:

waddleOff wrote:

Yes, and anytime I hear about whole countries not being able to test OOC I assume that their athletes are clean.

+1

Shoot, if they're the most tested athletes on Earth with no doping positives, they must have a helluva sophisticated doping regimen. I think it's funny how they pushed the infusion limit on a perfectly legal drug, then did a testosterone experiment, but everyone acts like all the athletes over there are taking EPO with some masking agent no one has ever heard off.

There's blood transfusion that some endurance athletes are engaging in (distance running, cycling, XC skiing). An athlete using transfusions could be tested hundreds of times a year and never test positive for an ESA or a masking agent because they're not taking any. And as long as the athlete doesn't go "full-throttle" on the transfusions, they can stay within their thresholds and not trip their ABP.

Without the benefit of any "extra data" you have just "imagined" the outcome of the WADA investigation - as well as the process it will follow. Well done - you have just joined the ranks of the "uninformed", whom you so regularly deride.

I like your use of "fanatisize" (instead of fantasise) as well. Intentional - or a Freudian slip? The latter is more likely. It covers your approach perfectly. Reason has long given way to immutable dogma.

Rupp the doper wrote:

Kara the hypocrite wrote:

Will Kara be investigated as well? Or only current NOP?

She is pretty much retired. Meanwhile the real hypocrite is Rupp who is trying to make the Olympic team.

Please explain further? Is there a reason he should not be trying to make the team?

Hahahahaha. All of them ran and hid when Al got banned and threw Alberto under the bus and now they have to put their money where their mouth is

BROJOS: Please run a prediction contest on which NOP athletes have been clean vs dirty over the years.

This article says nothing at all. All athletes are already being tested.. what exactly are people expecting? There has been no “gray area” or anything concerning involving NOP athletes in years, so what exactly is the point of the article? Just trying to stay relevant?

rekrunner wrote:

Isn't this what we already knew just playing out?

Bach said he would ask the questions to WADA for answers.

And now Reedie responds by saying WADA will find out the answers and get back to Bach.

This may very well be one outcome -- that WADA reviews the AAA panel findings, USADA's evidence, including the exhibits, witness testimonies, transcripts; Salazar's evidence; combined with athlete data in ADAMS, and accepts the thoroughness USADA's investigation and the AAA Panel findings.

In the meantime, for uninformed fans like you, without the benefit of all this extra data, you can imagine and fanatasize about many things which have little to do with the evidence and findings already accumulated, or resembling any new evidence and findings yet to be made public.

So, you don't think there's any doping going on with NOP athletes? (at anytime since the organization was developed). Is that because no athlete there has ever tested positive, been banned for ABP violations nor that the U.S. has ever appeared on any IAAF "most likely to dope" lists?

Investigate in the off season.

practical questions wrote:

Hello,

I have a practical question, which is, "What resources, expertise, and ability to thoroughly investigate athletes does WADA have that surpasses what USADA has?

WADA can re-test the samples. Those samples are good for 8 years and they have done that kind of tests for example regarding the medalists in Peking 2008. So WADA can re-test all the samples of the NOP athletes that are still available.