questionable entry wrote:
zxy wrote:
https://www.iaaf.org/competitions/iaaf-world-championships/iaaf-world-athletics-championships-doha-2019-6033/results/men/5000-metres/heats/startlistwhats up with the dude with a 16 minute 5000 pr and a 2:55 marathon pr?
And that 2.55 was good enough for ninth at an East Asian games
1) Jakob
2) Gebrihwet
3) McSweyn
all time great wrote:
1) Jakob
2) Gebrihwet
3) McSweyn
GEBRIHWET IS NOT STARTING
Maybe now you see the point of this thread
too easy wrote:
You heard it here first
• no Gebrhiwet
• Ethiopian Athletics Federation dumb enough to select Hadis as alternate instead of Kejelcha
• Barega sucks at championship racing
• Telahun Haile's good but not good enough for the win
• same for Chelimo
• no Cheptegei
Of course there are some other good athletes like Mo Ahmed, but at the end it won't be even very close.
No we didn't hear it here first. Register then back up your obvious predictions in an attempt to sound unique and intelligent, which you aren't.
zxy wrote:
https://www.iaaf.org/competitions/iaaf-world-championships/iaaf-world-athletics-championships-doha-2019-6033/results/men/5000-metres/heats/startlistdeuces wrote:
Where'd you see that Gebrhiwet is not doing the 5000m?
Grazi
Coevett wrote:
give me a break wrote:
Getting Gold in one non-Olympic race makes someone an "all-time great", right?
You are off your meds, buddy.
At 19 it does, mate.
Lol no. Doing it at 19 vs. 29 doesn't mean anything different if they both end up with 1. He'll get some hardware in years to come, though.
Phantasy Star II wrote:
If a clean 19-year-old kid could win Worlds that would be absolutely astonishing.
Whatever the case, he'll be up against some serious dopers. Italians will have their "teenagers" ready to roll.
I'll be rooting for Jakob.
Yep.
White = clean.
Black = serious doper.
He might take a medal. But he is not able to run as fast as Barega at his best. And he lacks the kick. It depends on how fast the ethiopians run in the final. And don't forget Filip Ingebrigtsen. He is capable of running sub 13. And there might be three Norwegian Brothers in the final, since both Filip and Henrik runs in heat 2.
6 guys with sub13 SB are running tommorow:
S. Barega (eth)
M. Ahmed (can)
B. Balew (brn)
T. Haile Bekele (eth)
N. Kipkorir Kimeli (ken)
A. Hadis (eth)
This field is extraordinarily diminished. No Kejelcha or Gebrhiwet in the 5 is absurd. Barega can close very fast and was doing that in the 12:43, so don't think that his previous championship history means too much. Hard to believe that Kenya has such a weak team, and that the U.S. is not sending a 12:58 and 13:00 guy to the race who finished 1-3 at U.S. trials.
Coevett wrote:
wafflecopter wrote:
Lol no. Doing it at 19 vs. 29 doesn't mean anything different if they both end up with 1. He'll get some hardware in years to come, though.
Not sure about that. Jim Ryun's legend status is arguably partly due to his achievements coming at an early age.
At any rate, if Jakob does win it will confim him as the greatest teen prodigy.
Maybe YOU are "not sure about that" - anybody else is. JIs achievements so far and a world title from Doha will not make him an all-time great - fact. Bekele, Gebrselassie, Coe, Rudisha, El Guerrouj, J. Ingebrigtsen?
But JI has great chances to win two medals - very interesting to see if he can do it.
Coevett wrote:
wafflecopter wrote:
Lol no. Doing it at 19 vs. 29 doesn't mean anything different if they both end up with 1. He'll get some hardware in years to come, though.
Not sure about that. Jim Ryun's legend status is arguably partly due to his achievements coming at an early age.
At any rate, if Jakob does win it will confim him as the greatest teen prodigy.
You're not sure about a lot of things.
Syd ran faster as an 18 year old than anyone in the world that year. By over half a second.
lamplight wrote:
Phantasy Star II wrote:
If a clean 19-year-old kid could win Worlds that would be absolutely astonishing.
Whatever the case, he'll be up against some serious dopers. Italians will have their "teenagers" ready to roll.
I'll be rooting for Jakob.
Imagine thinking the Ingebrigtsens are clean LOL
Hahaha, yes, even Coevett and rekrunner dont believe that!
Drug cheats out please wrote:
lamplight wrote:
Imagine thinking the Ingebrigtsens are clean LOL
Hahaha, yes, even Coevett and rekrunner dont believe that!
- What's the #1 incentive for doping? Money.
- Where does T&F money have the greatest impact on quality of life?
- Where is the local competition fiercest?
- Where is it most corruption (from officials and agents)?
How does this affect the risk/reward balance for an athlete?
If you're a norwegian you'll have a relatively good life whether or not you're competitive at the elite level. The things you lose when you're busted for doping will far outweigh any possible benefit from winning while doped. That doesn't mean people don't dope, cause there are certainly enough of 'less intelligent' individuals who will.
The case for east african countries is very different. Winning is a way out of poverty for yourself, your family and maybe even the extended family / village. The payoff is enormous in relative terms. Combine that with the level of competition at the local level and the corruption in every facet of society, and your odds of succeeding suddenly become very unfavorable. The circumstances guarantee that someone will cheat, and this person may steal your prize money, opportunities and consequently your chance at a much improved future. How do you overcome this problem? Either you're born with better genes, or you level the playing field with dope.
Kenneth M wrote:
Drug cheats out please wrote:
Hahaha, yes, even Coevett and rekrunner dont believe that!
- What's the #1 incentive for doping? Money.
- Where does T&F money have the greatest impact on quality of life?
- Where is the local competition fiercest?
- Where is it most corruption (from officials and agents)?
How does this affect the risk/reward balance for an athlete?
If you're a norwegian you'll have a relatively good life whether or not you're competitive at the elite level. The things you lose when you're busted for doping will far outweigh any possible benefit from winning while doped. That doesn't mean people don't dope, cause there are certainly enough of 'less intelligent' individuals who will.
The case for east african countries is very different. Winning is a way out of poverty for yourself, your family and maybe even the extended family / village. The payoff is enormous in relative terms. Combine that with the level of competition at the local level and the corruption in every facet of society, and your odds of succeeding suddenly become very unfavorable. The circumstances guarantee that someone will cheat, and this person may steal your prize money, opportunities and consequently your chance at a much improved future. How do you overcome this problem? Either you're born with better genes, or you level the playing field with dope.
exactly - europeans don't dope
Kenneth M wrote:
Drug cheats out please wrote:
Hahaha, yes, even Coevett and rekrunner dont believe that!
- What's the #1 incentive for doping? Money.
- Where does T&F money have the greatest impact on quality of life?
- Where is the local competition fiercest?
- Where is it most corruption (from officials and agents)?
How does this affect the risk/reward balance for an athlete?
If you're a norwegian you'll have a relatively good life whether or not you're competitive at the elite level. The things you lose when you're busted for doping will far outweigh any possible benefit from winning while doped. That doesn't mean people don't dope, cause there are certainly enough of 'less intelligent' individuals who will.
The case for east african countries is very different. Winning is a way out of poverty for yourself, your family and maybe even the extended family / village. The payoff is enormous in relative terms. Combine that with the level of competition at the local level and the corruption in every facet of society, and your odds of succeeding suddenly become very unfavorable. The circumstances guarantee that someone will cheat, and this person may steal your prize money, opportunities and consequently your chance at a much improved future. How do you overcome this problem? Either you're born with better genes, or you level the playing field with dope.
Stop bombarding us with your overly to-the-point logic. We do not accept rational thought here. I feel threatened so go away before I get the mods on you.
lrc creampuffs & betas east africa super runnings wrote:
Kenneth M wrote:
- What's the #1 incentive for doping? Money.
- Where does T&F money have the greatest impact on quality of life?
- Where is the local competition fiercest?
- Where is it most corruption (from officials and agents)?
How does this affect the risk/reward balance for an athlete?
If you're a norwegian you'll have a relatively good life whether or not you're competitive at the elite level. The things you lose when you're busted for doping will far outweigh any possible benefit from winning while doped. That doesn't mean people don't dope, cause there are certainly enough of 'less intelligent' individuals who will.
The case for east african countries is very different. Winning is a way out of poverty for yourself, your family and maybe even the extended family / village. The payoff is enormous in relative terms. Combine that with the level of competition at the local level and the corruption in every facet of society, and your odds of succeeding suddenly become very unfavorable. The circumstances guarantee that someone will cheat, and this person may steal your prize money, opportunities and consequently your chance at a much improved future. How do you overcome this problem? Either you're born with better genes, or you level the playing field with dope.
Stop bombarding us with your overly to-the-point logic. We do not accept rational thought here. I feel threatened so go away before I get the mods on you.
Sure, great logic. Lance Armstrong was really poor.
Yes, I know, and Kimeli was far behind in London. Barega has'nt run that good lately. But Ahmed superbly in Oakland. But we will get some indictaions tomorrow.
Barega
Bekele
Moh or Jakob
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