Did Rosie Ruiz Die This Week?

In 1982, Ruiz was arrested for embezzling $60,000 from a real estate company where she worked. She spent one week in jail and was sentenced to five years' probation.[10][11] She then moved back to South Florida, where she was arrested in 1983 for her involvement in a cocaine deal. She was sentenced to three years' probation.

Hounddogharrier wrote:

Good catch. It sure matches her bio. Sounds like she took her secret to her grave. Now we will never know.

lol

Karma will catch you wrote:

In 1982, Ruiz was arrested for embezzling $60,000 from a real estate company where she worked. She spent one week in jail and was sentenced to five years' probation.[10][11] She then moved back to South Florida, where she was arrested in 1983 for her involvement in a cocaine deal. She was sentenced to three years' probation.

Even her obit was a big lie . Crazy , huh ?

Karma will catch you wrote:

In 1982, Ruiz was arrested for embezzling $60,000 from a real estate company where she worked. She spent one week in jail and was sentenced to five years' probation.[10][11] She then moved back to South Florida, where she was arrested in 1983 for her involvement in a cocaine deal. She was sentenced to three years' probation.

I am no legal expert, but how does someone get five years probation then a year later is convicted of another crime and gets three years probation??

I would argue Shorter, projection is the tell tell sign wrote:

Luv2Run wrote:

I would argue Cierpinski...

I would argue Shorter, projection is the tell tell sign i.e. Paula, and Carl Lewis.

I would argue you, projection is the tell sign.

TakeTheT wrote:

Absolutely...she is not "lean" or even skinny like a marathon. And the iron on M.T.I. shirt may have been a giveaway....Pretty embarrassing moment in Boston Marathon history. The video clearly shows her poor running form. Pretty incredible she held the title for almost a week! MarathonInvestigation.com would have broken the case within minutes!

Rosie Ruiz had a great body in 1970's. Not a physique ideal for Marathoning.

I remember working as an intern at mid-size paper's sports desk during the week this all went down. Every journalist there thought she was legit. People outside running have always had a difficult time grasping the nuances that make a great runner, I guess.

Will the Rosie Ruiz Track Club continue? wrote:

HRE wrote:

I also recall that a few years later her name was in the news again for something fraud like, maybe passing bad checks.

I seem to remember that she ripped off the very same boss who had supported her before and after the Boston Marathon fiasco.

The photo from the obituary is definitely THE Rosie Ruiz.

This story, from when Gareau was brought back and honored a few years later, mentions "Rosie Vivas" towards the end:

https://www.seattletimes.com/sports/boston-marathon-to-give-gareau-time-in-spotlight/

. Same as the obituary.

Gareau talks about feeling sad for Rosie, more than for herself. Well, think about it. Rosie was obviously damaged goods, and her responses in the NYC Marathon and Boston Marathon, and forever afterwards, show deep trouble. What she did was ridiculously wrong, but there's still room for compassion.

a shame that Gareau had to receive her laurel wreath (that was all Boston winner's received then) after the fact, and despite a great PB performance (2:32?) it was always overshadowed by the Ruiz fiasco--I still remember the post-race interview where she stated that she did not know what interval training was, to the shock of the interviewers...her gig was up soon after...

huh just huh wrote:

Karma will catch you wrote:

In 1982, Ruiz was arrested for embezzling $60,000 from a real estate company where she worked. She spent one week in jail and was sentenced to five years' probation.[10][11] She then moved back to South Florida, where she was arrested in 1983 for her involvement in a cocaine deal. She was sentenced to three years' probation.

I am no legal expert, but how does someone get five years probation then a year later is convicted of another crime and gets three years probation??

Non-contiguous jurisdictions

lax wrote:

I remember working as an intern at mid-size paper's sports desk during the week this all went down. Every journalist there thought she was legit. People outside running have always had a difficult time grasping the nuances that make a great runner, I guess.

I wouldn't have called Ruiz's body nuanced as a runner. She had some seriously flabby thighs.

do marathon cheats cheat in all aspects of life?

paul72 wrote:

a shame that Gareau had to receive her laurel wreath (that was all Boston winner's received then) after the fact, and despite a great PB performance (2:32?) it was always overshadowed by the Ruiz fiasco--I still remember the post-race interview where she stated that she did not know what interval training was, to the shock of the interviewers...her gig was up soon

The real scandal wan't Ruiz's fraud itself, but that the Boston Marathon officials didn't know what was obvious to all of us real runners at first sight. They put a wreath on her head while runners across the country were screaming, "oh you effing idiots!" It was ridiculous.

Yeah...you are correct....need to read my dates more carefully! July 8TH!

Yeah...that was pretty bad. The cops kind of were slow to get to her at the line. Sure, many marathoners stagger into the finish but for some reason, the champs, FOR THE MOST PART, have better form coming into the finish. The first video of her turning off Comm. Ave onto Hereford, I believe (they made changes somewhere in the 1970s - 80s on the turn AND finish...it used to end at the Prudential, not in front of the Boston Public Library) ...she looks like an actor jogging. And what the Hell was the M.T.I. shirt??? Rodgers was on it pretty soon after and Katherine Switzer's tone was one of serious doubt...especially when she didn't know what an interval was and she coached herself. Then she kept lying and lying and lying about it over the next few days....and for her whole life! Please watch the footage on YouTube...it's hilarious.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=b81a39Q43PY

malmo wrote:

The real scandal wan't Ruiz's fraud itself, but that the Boston Marathon officials didn't know what was obvious to all of us real runners at first sight. They put a wreath on her head while runners across the country were screaming, "oh you effing idiots!" It was ridiculous.

I would have loved to been there. Your post and the one by the journalist got me thinking... did you really speak up or was it like, "oh man, she doesn't look like a marathoner."?

TakeTheT wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=3&v=b81a39Q43PY

Wait, that was Katherine "First Female Boston Finisher Ever" Switzer interviewing Ruiz?? She sure didn't press Ruiz much or make her squirm much in that interview.

Here is a clip of Bill Rodgers calling Rosie out in front of her:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XXpdl4EkJr8

malmo wrote:

paul72 wrote:

a shame that Gareau had to receive her laurel wreath (that was all Boston winner's received then) after the fact, and despite a great PB performance (2:32?) it was always overshadowed by the Ruiz fiasco--I still remember the post-race interview where she stated that she did not know what interval training was, to the shock of the interviewers...her gig was up soon

The real scandal wan't Ruiz's fraud itself, but that the Boston Marathon officials didn't know what was obvious to all of us real runners at first sight. They put a wreath on her head while runners across the country were screaming, "oh you effing idiots!" It was ridiculous.

agree--my dad had run Boston several years prior, but he couldn't run in '80 due to injury, and I was 9 years old at the time and thus we watched her finish and the subsequent interviews on TV, and he was saying WTF--"she is no real runner!"

She was a crook wrote:

Embezzling her workplace and cocaine dealing.....

Good to know she went on to a career with the Better Business Bureau as an "accreditation specialist."