They did not do 8x1200 @59-61 second pace and then a 12 mile run.
They did not do 8x1200 @59-61 second pace and then a 12 mile run.
Watching that video, I don't see why Jakob can't attack the 7:20 3000m record from Komen.
I think in a perfectly paced race in the right conditions, Jakob could run 3:40/3:40 back to back.
Not straight away after - i’m sorry if that was unclear. The long run was the last session of the day.
Top end speed is their weakness, and their training reflects that. Lots and lots of sub LT miles. Jakobs insane LT-speed is what enables him to race so much, and thats where I predict his annual gains will come from in the coming years. I absolutely think that the 3000m record stands to fall in the next 3-4 years.
Is he doping that hard?
Halviking wrote:
Jakob I rad 3.36.33 solo at the Norwegian championship
It looks like he was jogging.
43
1.43
2.41.5
3.36.33
Editor's note: Here is an article from the local press:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=no&u=https://www.nrk.no/sport/overlegent-nm-gull-til-jakob-ingebrigtsen-_-men-kongepokalen-anser-de-som-en-umulighet-1.14648030&prev=search
What's this Kings Trophy?
This dopingmania is ridiculous. Jakob has had an even, gradual, annual progression since he was 12 years old. When do you suggest he started doping?
Why would he need to?
Why aren’t Henrik and Filip getting similar results despite being several years older?
Every NC, regardless of sport, has an event in which the event winner is awarded «Kongepokalen» or King’s trophy. Our King, King Harald V, sometimes attends these NC events and personally awards the trophy. Mostly in XC-skiing, as it’s our national traditional pasttime, but sometimes other sports aswell.
In track they have a points system dependant on world-class times in each event. So it’s usually the shorter distances or technical events which get the closest to a WR. The last three years it’s been awarded to Karsten Warholm. Medium/long-distance running basically have no chance since there’s not a good enough pace in the field to achieve world class times. Hence Jakob’s solo run.
In other sports the event is predetermined, such as XC-skiing and downhill skiing.
8x1200 at about 3:00 strains credulity. That's nearly 10k of running at 3k pace.
I expect great things of Jakob, but sub 3:27 this year is absurd, as is 7:20. To break 3:29 wouldn't surprise me, though it's not a sure thing this year. He'll have to break 7:30 before he is spoken of as a threat even to run 7:26, which would be a great time for time even in the next few years. Henrik ran 7:36 this year. I'm sure he can break 7:30 and 13 this year.
Another kind of race wrote:
TempoKing wrote:
Jakob is going to be in a sub 3:27 shape come WC - mark my words. At that speed tactics start to become less and less important. His development in racing strategy is apparent - where before he would coast of the back to a respectable time - he’ll now take control of the race and dominate the opposition.
Noone likes to be outrun by a kid, and this will work in Ingebrigtsen’s favour.
Barring a serious accident I can’t think of anyone other than Tim that’ll even challenge Jakob in the WC.
In the WC there will probably be a wait and kick race . Then Jakob will be in trouble with fast guys as Lewandowski..
So why would he wait and kick rather than try to run it out of them? If, as you say, he would lose anyway, why not try something different?
Positive Contribution wrote:
Halviking wrote:
Jakob I rad 3.36.33 solo at the Norwegian championship
It looks like he was jogging.
43
1.43
2.41.5
3.36.33
Editor's note: Here is an article from the local press:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=no&u=https://www.nrk.no/sport/overlegent-nm-gull-til-jakob-ingebrigtsen-_-men-kongepokalen-anser-de-som-en-umulighet-1.14648030&prev=searchWhat's this Kings Trophy?
It is a trophy the best athlete get from King Harald, one for each sport, one for the females one for the males, as you probably read Karsten Warholm grabbed it for the fifth time I believe, sometimes the King is present to give the trophy away, not this time I believe.
Here is a link to a wikipedia piece:
https://translate.google.no/translate?hl=no&sl=auto&tl=en&u=https%3A%2F%2Fno.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FKongepokalWhite punks on dope.
TempoKing wrote:
I never said that Jakob is the worlds best 1500m runner. Based on the rankings of this year's performances it's cleary not the case. However his performance last friday is very impressive considering that the Ingebrigtsen brothers are in the midst of a serious training block at the moment.
We're talking a 110-130 mpw after DL London. They're going all in for another peak in towards the WC, and this means "destroying" their top end speed with large quantities of under LT runs. They'll continue this program into another altitude stint in august. When they return to sea-level we'll see them letting up on the milage and focus on top end speed.
I can confirm that just last thursday, (the day before his solo 3:36), Jakob and Filip ran not only the qualifier trails for NC 1500m final but also ran a 8x1200m workout with 59-61 laps. The day was finished with a 12 mile longrun into the evening hours. Jacob then steps up and runs a solo 3:36 the next day.
Tell me that isn't impressive.
Yep. They're pretty good, no doubts there. Why wasn't Filip in the 1500 final though?
I was rooting for that guy who went with Jakob, who held on for 2nd.
TempoKing wrote:
Every NC, regardless of sport, has an event in which the event winner is awarded «Kongepokalen» or King’s trophy. ... The last three years it’s been awarded to Karsten Warholm. Medium/long-distance running basically have no chance
Warholm and Ingebrigtsen should duke it out over 800m for the prize. Who would win?
Bad Wigins wrote:
Yep. They're pretty good, no doubts there. Why wasn't Filip in the 1500 final though?
I was rooting for that guy who went with Jakob, who held on for 2nd.
That guy, Ferdinand Kvan Edman, ran faster than the USchamp (3:44;xx)
Bad Wigins wrote:
Warholm and Ingebrigtsen should duke it out over 800m for the prize. Who would win?
All distances up to 743m Karsten, then Jakob.
Again, there is no way they did 8x1200 at 59-61 pace. If they did then they’re in WR 3k, 5k and10k shape or they left their entire season in that session.
He also did 12x1 mile in 4:00 with 2 min rest
ijss wrote:
it's not "solo"
he lead from the start. was never challenged, had complete control pf pacing. No one was racing him, so it mgith as well have been a solo effort