Bottom line is yes we do see OBVIOUS differences when dealing with race and sports.
Bottom line is yes we do see OBVIOUS differences when dealing with race and sports.
Whatley wrote:
Bottom line is yes we do see OBVIOUS differences when dealing with race and sports.
Both you and Thrower are ignorant in regard to one race is superior and another race is inferior. You two offer no science to back up your personal feelings. You both offer slight anecdotal evidence. Whatley: You offer a select few examples, then you state blacks are superior. Thrower offered her/his select few examples, then he/she stated whites are superior.
A select few examples?
What white sprinter comes close to........
Usain Bolt
Yohan Blake
Justin Gatlin
Tyson Gay
Bob Hayes
Christian Coleman
Mo Greene
Carl Lewis
......at 100m, well?
What white NFL RB compares to.....
Jim Brown
Walter Payton
Eric Dickerson
O.J.Simpson
Adrian Peterson
Marshall Faulk
Emmitt Smith
.....well?
Wide receivers?
Jerry Rice
Randy Moss
Larry Fitzgerald
Terrell Owens
Tim Brown
Chris Carter
When was the last time a white sprinter broke.....9.90? Try, never.
When was the last time a white sprinter broke 19.70? Try, never.
When only about 7% (black males 18-30) are that totally dominate in some athletic whatever what does that tell us?
There have been TONS of black sub10.00 sprinters, how many non black?
There have been TONS of black 1000 rushers in the NFL, how many non blacks?
Just open your eyes and there it is staring right at you.
Whatley wrote:
A select few examples?
What white sprinter comes close to........
Usain Bolt
Yohan Blake
Justin Gatlin
Tyson Gay
Bob Hayes
Christian Coleman
Mo Greene
Carl Lewis
......at 100m, well?
What white NFL RB compares to.....
Jim Brown
Walter Payton
Eric Dickerson
O.J.Simpson
Adrian Peterson
Marshall Faulk
Emmitt Smith
.....well?
Wide receivers?
Jerry Rice
Randy Moss
Larry Fitzgerald
Terrell Owens
Tim Brown
Chris Carter
When was the last time a white sprinter broke.....9.90? Try, never.
When was the last time a white sprinter broke 19.70? Try, never.
When only about 7% (black males 18-30) are that totally dominate in some athletic whatever what does that tell us?
There have been TONS of black sub10.00 sprinters, how many non black?
There have been TONS of black 1000 rushers in the NFL, how many non blacks?
Just open your eyes and there it is staring right at you.
You're right in that there are genetic differences in those from different parts of the world.
But, you're still jumping to conclusions. Most whites focus on school not sports. While their black friends are out playing sports all day every day the white kids are forced inside to do their homework. That's a critical part of this analysis. Also, white kids don't have as much pressure. For many black kids in the ghetto the ONLY way out of the ghetto is sports. White kids don't have this problem. They can fail or succeed at sports, it won't matter much. If the black kid fails at sports, he will be stuck in the ghetto his whole life. There is no room for failure. They will work as hard as it takes to get out. That could mean shooting the basketball 10,000 times a day, running sprints for 6 hours a day, or playing football for 8 hours a day. Whatever it takes to get out of the ghetto and move your family out of the ghetto. This is also critical to consider before jumping to conclusions.
Anytime a high school runner splits 44.7 hype is warranted. That race was incredible.
Splits of US 4x400m anchor runner in last 3 WC
2017: 44.71
2015: 44.18
2013: 44.74
Yes, 44.7 for a HS runner is pretty good
for some reason ... wrote:
From 1930's through 1964, 10.2 to 10.4 100m earned a man an Olympic medal. Black men and white men were earning 100m medals during those 32 years of Summer Olympics. That entire era was cinder/dirt with very heavy shoes/spikes. Blacks have stayed with 100m. As training, nutrition, shoes and track surfaces have improved, blacks have improved. Whites en mass quit sprinting 100m. It's a question for social scientists not biologists.
Perhaps whites were quietly shoved to distance and middle distance races, because coaches think, “Ah they’re honkies, they can’t sprint! Hey can only do distance!”
Sadness Schipper is as honky as they come, and one of the fastest sprinters on earth.
lol230847u23048230948230 wrote:
Everyone hyped up Boling's 44.7 as if it was a once in a decade performance.
The truth is, it wasn't.
In 2017 NBNO, the anchor for the second place 4x400 team anchored 44.58!
In 2017 Pan Am Juniors, Sean Hooper ran a 44.6 split.
Justin Robinson ran 44.8 on the open so I'm assuming he can run 44.6 ish for a split.
Jamal Walton split 44.5 @Pan Am Juniors
In conclusion, although 44.7 is a very fast split time, it isn't as "godly" as people make it out to be, as 4 other people have ran as fast/faster in just the past 2 years.
There have probably been wayyy more people in all-time US history who have ran faster, but to be honest, I can't be bothered to do that much research.
*This isn't to demean the accomplishments of Boling. 9.98 in HS, wind-aided or not is crazy. I'm fully confident that he will one day win NCAA's and he'll run 9.7 low and win the Olympics. Just this one performance (I felt) was a bit more hyped up than need be.
'fck off you idiot.
Its fast as heck.
You'll never see it in your car. If you can't say anything positive about a high school kid splitting this fast then you hav eno idea what fast is.
From a guy who split 45
You are so wrong it's comical.
You really have never noticed the difference in the physique? Really? You have never noticed that elusiveness, agility only found in black athletes like a Barry Sanders, Then there is that 220 pounds with speed like a Bo Jackson, Herschel Walker, Marcus Dupree.
Whites simply can't run like blacks and all that silliness about culture, want, etc etc means....o.
The fastest Canadian is black, as is the fastest Frenchman, Brit, USA, Portugal, why is that?
There are only about 7% of American who are black and between 18-30 yet look at the dominance at 100, 200, 400, hurdles, basketball, running back, wide receiver, DB, long jump. Trying to sell.......well if whites wanted to...is laughable.
I don't care what the situation is, if you have a 100 black families and a 100 white, we will see far more athletes, coming out of those black homes, and it's totally obvious.
Whatley wrote:
You are so wrong it's comical.
There are only about 7% of American who are black and between 18-30 yet look at the dominance at 100, 200, 400, hurdles, basketball, running back, wide receiver, DB, long jump.
Triple jump world record holder is white, reigning world champions in 200m and 400m hurdles are white, the best (and maybe most dominant track athlete in the world last year) 110m hurdler is white. Other white guys have won WC and Olympics recently in long jump and 60m.
As someone mentioned, Ronaldo would be a sick defensive back - his explosiveness and agility is probably better than anyone in the NFL.
Everybody knows DeGrasse would have won the gold if he'd ran.
And there have been TONS of stud black 200m sprinters, can you say that about white?
Here is an all black 110
lane
1.Omar McLoud
2.Allan Johnson
3.Roger Kingdom
4.Aries Merritt
5.Renaldo Nehemiah
6.Terrance Trammell
7.Greg Foster
8.Rod Milburn
Your turn.
Give me a white sprinter who belongs in this 100m race.
lane
lane
1.Mo Greene
2.Yohan Blake
3.Carl Lewis
4.Usain Bolt
5.Justin Gatlin
6.Tyson Gay
7.Christian Coleman
8.Asafa Powell
Hell....
lane
1.Donovan Bailey
2.Linford Christie
3.Leroy Burrell
4.Bob Hayes
5.Frankie Fredericks
6.Ato Boldon
7.Jimmy Hines
8.Bruny Surin
Well?
Ronaldo can't break a 4.7 40.
sbeefyk2 wrote:
Whatley wrote:
A select few examples?
What white sprinter comes close to........
Usain Bolt
Yohan Blake
Justin Gatlin
Tyson Gay
Bob Hayes
Christian Coleman
Mo Greene
Carl Lewis
......at 100m, well?
What white NFL RB compares to.....
Jim Brown
Walter Payton
Eric Dickerson
O.J.Simpson
Adrian Peterson
Marshall Faulk
Emmitt Smith
.....well?
Wide receivers?
Jerry Rice
Randy Moss
Larry Fitzgerald
Terrell Owens
Tim Brown
Chris Carter
When was the last time a white sprinter broke.....9.90? Try, never.
When was the last time a white sprinter broke 19.70? Try, never.
When only about 7% (black males 18-30) are that totally dominate in some athletic whatever what does that tell us?
There have been TONS of black sub10.00 sprinters, how many non black?
There have been TONS of black 1000 rushers in the NFL, how many non blacks?
Just open your eyes and there it is staring right at you.
You're right in that there are genetic differences in those from different parts of the world.
But, you're still jumping to conclusions. Most whites focus on school not sports. While their black friends are out playing sports all day every day the white kids are forced inside to do their homework. That's a critical part of this analysis. Also, white kids don't have as much pressure. For many black kids in the ghetto the ONLY way out of the ghetto is sports. White kids don't have this problem. They can fail or succeed at sports, it won't matter much. If the black kid fails at sports, he will be stuck in the ghetto his whole life. There is no room for failure. They will work as hard as it takes to get out. That could mean shooting the basketball 10,000 times a day, running sprints for 6 hours a day, or playing football for 8 hours a day. Whatever it takes to get out of the ghetto and move your family out of the ghetto. This is also critical to consider before jumping to conclusions.
Pretty racist
Black kids living in the ghetto
White kids doing great
Whatley wrote:
You are so wrong it's comical.
You really have never noticed the difference in the physique? Really? You have never noticed that elusiveness, agility only found in black athletes like a Barry Sanders, Then there is that 220 pounds with speed like a Bo Jackson, Herschel Walker, Marcus Dupree.
Whites simply can't run like blacks and all that silliness about culture, want, etc etc means....o.
The fastest Canadian is black, as is the fastest Frenchman, Brit, USA, Portugal, why is that?
There are only about 7% of American who are black and between 18-30 yet look at the dominance at 100, 200, 400, hurdles, basketball, running back, wide receiver, DB, long jump. Trying to sell.......well if whites wanted to...is laughable.
I don't care what the situation is, if you have a 100 black families and a 100 white, we will see far more athletes, coming out of those black homes, and it's totally obvious.
Would The people who disagree with Whatley agree that there are not a lot of black engineers etc is due to cultural, rather than genetic?
Genetics matter... both for physical traits and intelligence.
As someone mentioned, Ronaldo would be a sick defensive back - his explosiveness and agility is probably better than anyone in the NFL.
NO HE WOULDN'T, AND NO IT IS NOT.
BRUH, JUST STOP.
Ever notice nobody can ever list more than a few white tracksters with some speed. While we have seen TONS of black ones.
This is not about anything other than those with roots to western Africa are more apt to be big and fast, tall and fast and simply fast. And it's totally obvious, why anyone would try and battle this.....?
sbeefyk2 wrote:
Whatley wrote:
A select few examples?
What white sprinter comes close to........
Usain Bolt
Yohan Blake
Justin Gatlin
Tyson Gay
Bob Hayes
Christian Coleman
Mo Greene
Carl Lewis
......at 100m, well?
What white NFL RB compares to.....
Jim Brown
Walter Payton
Eric Dickerson
O.J.Simpson
Adrian Peterson
Marshall Faulk
Emmitt Smith
.....well?
Wide receivers?
Jerry Rice
Randy Moss
Larry Fitzgerald
Terrell Owens
Tim Brown
Chris Carter
When was the last time a white sprinter broke.....9.90? Try, never.
When was the last time a white sprinter broke 19.70? Try, never.
When only about 7% (black males 18-30) are that totally dominate in some athletic whatever what does that tell us?
There have been TONS of black sub10.00 sprinters, how many non black?
There have been TONS of black 1000 rushers in the NFL, how many non blacks?
Just open your eyes and there it is staring right at you.
You're right in that there are genetic differences in those from different parts of the world.
But, you're still jumping to conclusions. Most whites focus on school not sports. While their black friends are out playing sports all day every day the white kids are forced inside to do their homework. That's a critical part of this analysis. Also, white kids don't have as much pressure. For many black kids in the ghetto the ONLY way out of the ghetto is sports. White kids don't have this problem. They can fail or succeed at sports, it won't matter much. If the black kid fails at sports, he will be stuck in the ghetto his whole life. There is no room for failure. They will work as hard as it takes to get out. That could mean shooting the basketball 10,000 times a day, running sprints for 6 hours a day, or playing football for 8 hours a day. Whatever it takes to get out of the ghetto and move your family out of the ghetto. This is also critical to consider before jumping to conclusions.
I hope you know that what you just said was incredibly racist!
To say "most whites focus on school, not sports. While their black friends are out playing sports" is incredibly false.
I don't know about your community, but in my community blacks/Asians always have the strictest parents, then Hispanics, then whites....with the most lenient parents.
All of the black people I know, their parents push them to do schoolwork and they get disciplined THOROUGHLY if they don't!
And to say that "if a black kid fails @sports, he will be stuck in the ghetto his whole life"....wrong.
Ever heard of education. I live near Camden, which you can say is the "hood" and I know some of the kids there, and they told me that Camden HS had 4 Ivy-Leaguers with many more students attending top-30 universities.
What you said was incredibly wrong and disrespectful. You need to go out into the real world more, and see what life is really like.
Engelsnot wrote:
lol230847u23048230948230 wrote:
Everyone hyped up Boling's 44.7 as if it was a once in a decade performance.
The truth is, it wasn't.
In 2017 NBNO, the anchor for the second place 4x400 team anchored 44.58!
In 2017 Pan Am Juniors, Sean Hooper ran a 44.6 split.
Justin Robinson ran 44.8 on the open so I'm assuming he can run 44.6 ish for a split.
Jamal Walton split 44.5 @Pan Am Juniors
In conclusion, although 44.7 is a very fast split time, it isn't as "godly" as people make it out to be, as 4 other people have ran as fast/faster in just the past 2 years.
There have probably been wayyy more people in all-time US history who have ran faster, but to be honest, I can't be bothered to do that much research.
*This isn't to demean the accomplishments of Boling. 9.98 in HS, wind-aided or not is crazy. I'm fully confident that he will one day win NCAA's and he'll run 9.7 low and win the Olympics. Just this one performance (I felt) was a bit more hyped up than need be.
No one said or acted like it was a once in a decade performance. It's SJW types, you HHouse types, that simply can't stand a white youngster doing well in events that are dominated by black athletes. The worst of the bunch are you mensheviks. Your hatred is becoming more and more transparent to everyone.
Leave the kid alone. Hopefully he'll do well in college and beyond, while avoiding haters like you. Tossing in your disingenuous final paragraph does nothing to hide your true intent.
Lots of people are acting like it was a once in a decade performance...get out of the rock you're living under and go see people's remarks on his split. Nick Symmonds said that his 400m split was more impressive than his 100m which was #7 all time. A 44.7 split is nowhere near the top 10 all-time.
I'm not a hater, I fully believe he'll have a successful track career, on the national and international stage. I'm just saying that people hyped up his 4x400 split a bit more than need be. No need to be so triggered.
omygoodnes wrote:
lol230847u23048230948230 wrote:
Everyone hyped up Boling's 44.7 as if it was a once in a decade performance.
The truth is, it wasn't.
In 2017 NBNO, the anchor for the second place 4x400 team anchored 44.58!
In 2017 Pan Am Juniors, Sean Hooper ran a 44.6 split.
Justin Robinson ran 44.8 on the open so I'm assuming he can run 44.6 ish for a split.
Jamal Walton split 44.5 @Pan Am Juniors
In conclusion, although 44.7 is a very fast split time, it isn't as "godly" as people make it out to be, as 4 other people have ran as fast/faster in just the past 2 years.
There have probably been wayyy more people in all-time US history who have ran faster, but to be honest, I can't be bothered to do that much research.
*This isn't to demean the accomplishments of Boling. 9.98 in HS, wind-aided or not is crazy. I'm fully confident that he will one day win NCAA's and he'll run 9.7 low and win the Olympics. Just this one performance (I felt) was a bit more hyped up than need be.
'fck off you idiot.
Its fast as heck.
You'll never see it in your car. If you can't say anything positive about a high school kid splitting this fast then you hav eno idea what fast is.
From a guy who split 45
I never denied it's fast. I'm just saying, lots of people are acting like it's a "once in a generation" performance, but it's not b/c 4 other people have done what he did in the last 4 years.
Stop getting triggered.
Boff wrote:
Whatley wrote:
You are so wrong it's comical.
You really have never noticed the difference in the physique? Really? You have never noticed that elusiveness, agility only found in black athletes like a Barry Sanders, Then there is that 220 pounds with speed like a Bo Jackson, Herschel Walker, Marcus Dupree.
Whites simply can't run like blacks and all that silliness about culture, want, etc etc means....o.
The fastest Canadian is black, as is the fastest Frenchman, Brit, USA, Portugal, why is that?
There are only about 7% of American who are black and between 18-30 yet look at the dominance at 100, 200, 400, hurdles, basketball, running back, wide receiver, DB, long jump. Trying to sell.......well if whites wanted to...is laughable.
I don't care what the situation is, if you have a 100 black families and a 100 white, we will see far more athletes, coming out of those black homes, and it's totally obvious.
Would The people who disagree with Whatley agree that there are not a lot of black engineers etc is due to cultural, rather than genetic?
Genetics matter... both for physical traits and intelligence.
.....Yes? Is this a serious question?