Wow: Donavan Brazier is the top 800 m runner in the world

jamin wrote:

I just watched the video. Wow. Brazier could've easily run 1:41-high if he hadn't got boxed in with 100m to go. He had to decelerate and couldn't get out of the box to reaccelerate until about 30 meters to go.

Musings from my mom’s basement. She made pancakes in the shape of Mickey Mouse for breakfast with a cup Sunny D.

Brazier’s ready to drop a great one. He needs to set up an Alan Webb time trial race and let it rip. A clear path with a 48 sec opening 400 rabbit.

Yea, in any given race he’s capable of winning. This year or by next year, we will see him capable of running through the rounds of championship events and making noise in the finals.

yeah baby yaeah! wrote:

Looks like he's not being conservative with the doping at all..

What a stupid thing to say

Agree wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

Baloney. No way was that worth more than half a second or so. He was out of any box as soon as Amos went wide.

This was Brazier nipping Amos on one of his rare off days. Nobody nails every 800, it's not possible, sometimes it's just not there.

Correct. Certainly isn't worth 1.7 seconds or whatever that other dummy suggested.

I don't know how time it was worth, I just think he could have had a clearer margin of victory of he had moved out sooner.

here is video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlMibmxBOno

Awesome!

And like I always say, the box is your friend. The box forces you to relax and not do anything stupid. Even in an 800 there's usually time to go once the box opens.

Maybe a bit of an overreaction here? Atop the world after his first DL 800 of the season where you needed to go to the tape to see who won? & can someone explain what happened when it looked like he clipped Amos? obviously there was no DQ but was there a challenge/protest or was that all clean racing? be pretty easy to argue Amos lost some momentum maybe even enough to swing a race that came down to a lean.

lets not get carried away here. he just outleaned Amos.

Little early in the season to crown him GOAT.

He didn't "just outlean" Amos, he came back to do so.

Look at how much ground McBride made up on him in the straight, maybe 1.5m? I think that's a decent measure of how far Brazier would have been ahead of Amos had he had a clear lane, maybe a bit farther since he was accelerating away from McBride once he was clear.

So in my mind he would have beaten Amos by AT LEAST 2m, and probably more. Brazier is in huge shape right now.

Sprintgeezer wrote:

He didn't "just outlean" Amos, he came back to do so.

Look at how much ground McBride made up on him in the straight, maybe 1.5m? I think that's a decent measure of how far Brazier would have been ahead of Amos had he had a clear lane, maybe a bit farther since he was accelerating away from McBride once he was clear.

So in my mind he would have beaten Amos by AT LEAST 2m, and probably more. Brazier is in huge shape right now.

It looked to me like he was running as fast as he could and was benefiting from staying on the rail and drafting as much as he was being held back. But at any rate, 2 meters is a quarter of a second.

I am going to say this now and I want everyone to listen and remember this post for when it happens!

Donovan brazier will break the AR in the 800m between now and by the end of the 2020 Olympics. Not only will he break the AR but i also believe he will eventually go under 1:42, but I think he breaks the AR before going sub 1:42.

I will remember. Fortune favors the bold. Good luck.

He was at ~1:30.25 at 700m and looked ready to unleash. His plan was to squeeze between the 2 guys in front of him. They slowed down and moved too close together for him to squeeze through. At this point his cadence had slowed down and he had to check whether there was room to go wide. He went wide and sprinted the last ~30m. If he had a clear path for the last 100m and someone next to him that he needed to outkick, I think he could've sustained a long kick to get over the line in 1:41.9.

At this point I would say he is the top American and 3rd in the world. He still has to deal with Sanuri and Korrir. Both of them handed it to him indoors this and last year. Definitely feel that 1:42 is in the cards this year. Can't promise an AR, but he will at least get close. Should be in the bag for him by next year.

One race, does not a season make.

Agree wrote:

Bad Wigins wrote:

Baloney. No way was that worth more than half a second or so. He was out of any box as soon as Amos went wide.

This was Brazier nipping Amos on one of his rare off days. Nobody nails every 800, it's not possible, sometimes it's just not there.

Correct. Certainly isn't worth 1.7 seconds or whatever that other dummy suggested.

It wasn't even worth .2. You're spot on.

Payday wrote:

At this point I would say he is the top American and 3rd in the world. He still has to deal with Sanuri and Korrir. Both of them handed it to him indoors this and last year. Definitely feel that 1:42 is in the cards this year. Can't promise an AR, but he will at least get close. Should be in the bag for him by next year.

Murphy will be running him over by mid to late season. No question. Saruni and Korir have been making more visits to the motherland to "recharge" so it will be interesting to see how far officials go to protect him.

Hoppel is coming on. Just wait and see.

Brazier will break the AR this season. 1:41:xx or better.

How many times ever has anyone beaten 12 seconds for the last 100m of an 800m?

Zero?

Brazier did have to slow down and could have run low 1:43. He is getting close to American record shape.