BYU Update: Men's Distance Athlete Number 11 Punched in to NCAA's..their only entrant in the 1500

The 10k time to get into the meet has steadily dropped every year. It is almost 40 seconds faster than 10 years ago. So the facts do not support your opinion. This is the fastest year ever and yet BYU qualified the most guys ever in the toughest year ever. Facts.

GTFO of this thread. No one wants another's religion pushed in their face. Pretty sure no one wants to follow your cult

2 in 5K, all steeplechase qualifiers were under 8:40. Looks like Ed Eyestone came through.

MasterofNone wrote:

GTFO of this thread. No one wants another's religion pushed in their face. Pretty sure no one wants to follow your cult

Oh, I see someone has his big boy pants on.

Considering the name of this thread on the home page.

"BYU qualifies 11 guys to NCAAs (6 in 10k, 4 in steeple and 1 in 1500) - I'm converting to Mormonism"

One post sharing ones beliefs could hardly be categorized as pushing religion into someones face.

What about UTEP in the early 80s. The had 4 guys place in the 10K and the meet record is still there. UTEP still has the lowest score from the 1981 NCAA XC championship.

Thank you Sasha Pachev.

Saladbar wrote:

‘Nuff Said wrote:

Look at the results. BYU is a distance power.

Point missed.

I think YOU missed the point

Does this get me 4-5 of those blond haired, blue eyed babes that look 19 forever? My god your regligion's breeding practices do some wonders! I wouldn't even care that your book was pulled out of a con-man's a$$ 200 years ago!!!

They got half the qualifiers in the 10k out of the west region, and Shumway who qualified in the steeple is also a 28:30ish guy.

Put together these factors and this is why I personally think they are good: 1. Great coaching. 2. Success breeds success, since Miles Batty, they have gotten better each year. 3. They don't drink or smoke, so they are gonna recover better and be able to get more out of their training. 4. Most have served missions, so they are typically 21 or 22 year old sophomores. (Being lds myself, I went to college for a year, took two years off for a mission and didn't train, then when I got back, I ran HUGE PRs. Just being a couple years older helps a lot.)

Sasha Pachev wrote:

I would also recommend that you read the Book of Mormon, also called (by Mark Twain) "chloroform in print."

"And it came to pass that increasing numbers of young Mormons realized that their religion was completely made up by a grifter who wanted to sex other men's wives, and they left the fold gratefully."

All that said: Anyone who pays attention will agree that religious faith/belief, including LDS faith/belief, can spur tremendous performances of which a person would otherwise not have been capable.

That doesn't mean that the thing believed in is *true*, but you have to give credit where it's due.

A number of things are true:

Eyestone is a great coach, LDS lifestyle is good for running, older runners are a plus, elevation helps.

But remember that there are 7 million Mormons in the US and 14 million plus worldwide. Each one grows up expected to succeed and go to BYU - in fact tuition for Mormons is less than 3k. They get their pick of those folks so odds are, from time to time, they are going to be loaded in the distance events.

I'm not sure everyone there is LDS. I know you don't have to be to go to the school, and won't Eyestone let you run if you want? Or is the religion either an actual or de facto requirement to be on the team?

I expect someone to respond with 'Why would anyone go anywhere near that cult or their BS school?!!' but that doesn't answer the question. Do any of you who have gone there actually know? Is the team 90% LDS? 80%? I believe they recruited overseas in the same Era UTEP did, so I'm pretty sure the distance squad wasn't close to 100% LDS as recently as the 80s.

I'm confused. Isn't regionals part of the national championship meet? If you're running at regionals, didn't you already "qualify for NCAA"?

It's just one big meet spread out over two weekends and three locations, right? So people at regionals aren't trying to punch their ticket to nationals. They are already at nationals, and they are trying to qualify for the final or semi-final, correct?

Success literally breeds success in the church of LSD.

While Tyler Day was running on secular hate, Connor Mantz was running high on the church of LSD that last 800m of the 5000m into the NCAA championship!

Only the church of LSD can you get to recover like that! The secular NAU ones who talk so much trash now suffer at the hands of their own narcissism. It is time for the great suffering come NCAA finals.

SUCCESS BREEDS SUCCESS...BUT THOU MUST DISCOVER THE CHURCH OF LSD TO BREED MORE SUCCESS...AND FIND A NEW HIGH IN LIFE.

Fgfgfgf wrote:

What is BYU freshman Kenneth Rooks birthdate?

That would be an all time US U20 best (if he is still U20).

Nope, John Gregorek ran 8:33.8 more than 40 years ago.

All-LDS? wrote:

I'm not sure everyone there is LDS. I know you don't have to be to go to the school, and won't Eyestone let you run if you want? Or is the religion either an actual or de facto requirement to be on the team?

I expect someone to respond with 'Why would anyone go anywhere near that cult or their BS school?!!' but that doesn't answer the question. Do any of you who have gone there actually know? Is the team 90% LDS? 80%? I believe they recruited overseas in the same Era UTEP did, so I'm pretty sure the distance squad wasn't close to 100% LDS as recently as the 80s.

Not everyone is a member of their church. Rory Linkletter is not a member for example. I would say about 80% are though. I am pretty familiar with BYU’s program, and Eyestone and their recruiter Isaac Wood don’t care what religion you are. They want fast runners that will contribute to the team. It’s true that most of the best Mormon runners in the country and Utah area want to go to BYU, but they will accept anyone that is fast enough and interested.

Here is a good interview with Conner Peloquin, a non-member, about going to BYU where he is a minority.

Yes. They need to find a way to get rid of the regional terminology to make it clear.

aren't they already at nationals? wrote:

I'm confused. Isn't regionals part of the national championship meet? If you're running at regionals, didn't you already "qualify for NCAA"?

It's just one big meet spread out over two weekends and three locations, right? So people at regionals aren't trying to punch their ticket to nationals. They are already at nationals, and they are trying to qualify for the final or semi-final, correct?

Regionals have not existed for years. The 'tards on here do not understand the system.

Fftfffff wrote:

What is the walk-in standard at BYU? 4 minute mile?

Probably depends case by case, but I know of a guy who was given 14:10 as the target this year.