And is there really such a thing as an "ultramarathon star"?
And is there really such a thing as an "ultramarathon star"?
I wonder how much has Hoka paid Letsrun for all this sponsored content, seeing the tone of the interview. Did it include a "happy ending"?
Mizuno fanboy wrote:
I wonder how much has Hoka paid Letsrun for all this sponsored content, seeing the tone of the interview. Did it include a "happy ending"?
If it helps the keep site up, I don't care. This site is my #1, and probably the best site on the entire internet, for track and field news and results. It costs money to keep a website up and work actually goes into updating it daily with that same news and results.
Sorry about the first line...should have been "If it helps keep the site up"
Saywhatnow wrote:
the sensitive letsrun crowd is not amused wrote:
DISTANCE RUNNERS ARE SO UPTIGHT AND AWKWARD AND NERVOUS.
i used all caps. apologies
I think this kind of minor jab is good for the sport. I generally don't like Walmsley, but he seems to have a good perspective about running at the moment and realizes he might crash and burn but at least he's going for it.
As a former middle distance runner who had a mild amount of success in the 400 to mile race distances, i love calling people out at road races when i'm competing in my 30's these days. Long distance guys are a different breed and could stand you loosen up...a lot in some cases.
“love calling people out at road races”? What the heck does that mean?
I was wondering the same thing. I would like to read an example.
Mizuno fanboy wrote:
Why does Jim Walmsley want to "give the middle finger to the marathon community"? What's wrong with this guy?
Guys, he's saying that if he were to run 2:12, get top 3, and be left off the team, THEN he would want to give a middle finger to the marathon community. Wouldn't you?
Also, I read this more as the finger goes to IAAF and USATF. Clearly the guy reads and likes LetsRun; I don't think the middle finger is aimed at us.
adfj;adsflj; wrote:
Comes off as a total dbag.
Typical white trail runner. Knows he won't win any real races so goes to the trails with less competition and starts to believe the ultra community on how great he is.
Does he even have the OT qualifier? He won't get top 10.
He has the OTQ, maybe you could race him at the trials since you've qualified right?
but why miss an opportunity wrote:
Mizuno fanboy wrote:
Why does Jim Walmsley want to "give the middle finger to the marathon community"? What's wrong with this guy?
Guys, he's saying that if he were to run 2:12, get top 3, and be left off the team, THEN he would want to give a middle finger to the marathon community. Wouldn't you?
Also, I read this more as the finger goes to IAAF and USATF. Clearly the guy reads and likes LetsRun; I don't think the middle finger is aimed at us.
Regardless of who is included in the “marathon community”, I’m guessing he cares less about 2:20-3:00 hour hobby joggers on letsrun.
And for the record, I could care less about ultras. The top runners are not doing ultras.
adfj;adsflj; wrote:
Comes off as a total dbag.
Typical white trail runner. Knows he won't win any real races so goes to the trails with less competition and starts to believe the ultra community on how great he is.
Does he even have the OT qualifier? He won't get top 10.
AMEN!!! Bump and close thread.
Dromano19 wrote:
adfj;adsflj; wrote:
Comes off as a total dbag.
Typical white trail runner. Knows he won't win any real races so goes to the trails with less competition and starts to believe the ultra community on how great he is.
Does he even have the OT qualifier? He won't get top 10.
He has the OTQ, maybe you could race him at the trials since you've qualified right?
Big deal he has the OTQ. If he is not top 3 in it, means nothing, and if it doesn’t have 2:11:30 even more meaningless. As it is they can get rid of the OTM, a race for hopeless losers and go by strictly by the time standard.
doctorj wrote:
Dromano19 wrote:
He has the OTQ, maybe you could race him at the trials since you've qualified right?
Big deal he has the OTQ. If he is not top 3 in it, means nothing, and if it doesn’t have 2:11:30 even more meaningless. As it is they can get rid of the OTM, a race for hopeless losers and go by strictly by the time standard.
Nice! So you qualified as well?
the sensitive letsrun crowd is not amused wrote:
Mizuno fanboy wrote:
Why does Jim Walmsley want to "give the middle finger to the marathon community"? What's wrong with this guy?
DISTANCE RUNNERS ARE SO UPTIGHT AND AWKWARD AND NERVOUS.
i used all caps. apologies
I think this kind of minor jab is good for the sport. I generally don't like Walmsley, but he seems to have a good perspective about running at the moment and realizes he might crash and burn but at least he's going for it.
As a former middle distance runner who had a mild amount of success in the 400 to mile race distances, i love calling people out at road races when i'm competing in my 30's these days. Long distance guys are a different breed and could stand you loosen up...a lot in some cases.
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Yea the edgy guys are good for the sport. Remember Marc Davis, Paul McMullen? Remember how they brought the sport into the limelight....... oh wait, they didn’t, they did nothing to bring exposure to the sport and they were forgotten 30 seconds after they left the sport.
But I do remember a lot of talk about how they were good for the sport.
GBohannon wrote:
Saywhatnow wrote:
“love calling people out at road races”? What the heck does that mean?
I was wondering the same thing. I would like to read an example.
Talking nervously about what races they’re going to run next before the gun even goes off, obsessing about pace and their supposed fitness while asking everyone what pace they’re running at the start line....just too much talk about running with no substance or self-confidence. You should have a plan and be ready to go for it without asking everyone in proximity “how your legs feeling this morning?” So annoying and unflattering.
When I ran mid distance in college nobody talked about that kinda bullsh*t before or after races. It was “get the job done” and then talk about life on the cool-down. You knew, before an 800, that you were gonna go out in 52-53 and then hammer until you got dizzy. Not timidly asking what pace everyone was thinking of running. You’d get destroyed and nobody would want to talk to you.
These days I tell people at the start line exactly what the plan is pace-wise and then change the subject to anything other than running. Most good runners, I’ve found, are interested in doing the same.
Don’t be the lame obsessed dudes at races who can’t stop blathering about your running. We all get it, we’re all generally doing the same stuff. You’re more than a runner.
Bohannon- you get that qualifier yet?! We waiting...
I’m with the OP. The entire interview sounds like an entitled trailrunner with a chip on his shoulders. It’s not surprising. Trailrunners have some of the most inflated egos I’ve seen. They think cause they run up mountains they are tougher than everyone. Wrong. No one does that s***. Any decent sub 2:18 marathoner could step up and learn to run ultras and take down his WS record. It’s not easy by any means, but a few years of experience and commitment is all it takes. No one does it cause it’s not the most noble and prestigious event to take seriously. It’s simply not competitive.
Jim skipped the more competitive road racing scene to be a big fish in a small pond and get sponsorships. Then they make a big deal out of him finishing 27th at the Houston Half? I hope he gets his lunch handed to him at the Trials by those who have paid their dues as marathoners with little to no fanfare and greater respect for the road racing community.
good riddance. wrote:
Any decent sub 2:18 marathoner could step up and learn to run ultras and take down his WS record. It’s not easy by any means, but a few years of experience and commitment is all it takes. No one does it cause it’s not the most noble and prestigious event to take seriously. It’s simply not competitive.
Any? Hasn't worked for Sage.
Sage is just mentally weak. There’s a giant pool of sub 2:18 marathoners right now. If they gave up the stupid “Olympic Trials dream” and moved to trailrunning they’d find greater success. There’s nothing extra-ordinary about Jim. He’s someone who skipped more competitive road racing and never learned humility.
good riddance. wrote:
I’m with the OP. The entire interview sounds like an entitled trailrunner with a chip on his shoulders. It’s not surprising. Trailrunners have some of the most inflated egos I’ve seen. They think cause they run up mountains they are tougher than everyone. Wrong. No one does that s***. Any decent sub 2:18 marathoner could step up and learn to run ultras and take down his WS record. It’s not easy by any means, but a few years of experience and commitment is all it takes. No one does it cause it’s not the most noble and prestigious event to take seriously. It’s simply not competitive.
Jim skipped the more competitive road racing scene to be a big fish in a small pond and get sponsorships. Then they make a big deal out of him finishing 27th at the Houston Half? I hope he gets his lunch handed to him at the Trials by those who have paid their dues as marathoners with little to no fanfare and greater respect for the road racing community.
I think a 2:30 marathoner could break WS course records. When it was held by Timothy Olson for years he was probably in 2:50 marathon shape. The course re ord could get bested on a chilly race day with no snow and a burly runner.
distance running needs a jim walmsley, so lets appreciate it
good riddance. wrote:
Sage is just mentally weak. There’s a giant pool of sub 2:18 marathoners right now. If they gave up the stupid “Olympic Trials dream” and moved to trailrunning they’d find greater success. There’s nothing extra-ordinary about Jim. He’s someone who skipped more competitive road racing and never learned humility.
Is Max King mentally weak? Hasn't worked for him too. Michael Wardian? There have probably been many sub-2:18 marathoners in the race. You really mean "any"?
Jim Walmsley is a weird mix of totally insecure while making big announcements.
He is great with big announcements but usually he can't make them happen.
Last time: Big announcement Sub 6 hours for 100k
Reality: 6:55 hours. That's 55 minutes slower than announced. That's a good 15% slower!