[quote]SDSU Aztec wrote:
[quote]Jupiter (FL) is very exclusive wrote:
John Havens, the former president and COO of Citigroup, who has also has been caught up in the prostitution bust.
John Havens, JJ Childs....these are the bigger fish than Kraft.
Never heard of either of them
Whom that be wrote:
[quote]SDSU Aztec wrote:
[quote]Jupiter (FL) is very exclusive wrote:
John Havens, the former president and COO of Citigroup, who has also has been caught up in the prostitution bust.
John Havens, JJ Childs....these are the bigger fish than Kraft.
Never heard of either of them
Sure, but investors with deep pockets and a dislike for risky behavior sure have.
http://www.vbpd.org/vbpd-blog/february-22nd-2019Human Trafficking in Indian River County
The Vero Beach Police Department Special Investigations Unit, Sebastian Police Department Criminal Investigations Unit, and Indian River County Sheriff's Office Vice Unit has been conducting a criminal investigation into multiple massage parlor locations within Indian River County. This six-month investigation involving multiple jurisdictions has culminated by charging nearly two hundred subjects with over two hundred counts of solicitation. Additionally, the main targets of the investigation were also charged with various counts of law violations to include the following: Racketeering, deriving support from prostitution, engaging in prostitution, and transportation for prostitution. This combined effort included assistance from other jurisdictions including Orange County Sheriff's Office, Florida, Orlando Metropolitan Bureau of Investigation, Department of Homeland Security, and the 19th Judicial Circuit Court of Florida State Attorney’s Office.
.............>>+= wrote:
Also, this was actually one of a whole network of "spas" operating near one of Trump's golf courses. They probably cornered the local market, with plenty of bigwigs mulling around.
+1. These are all Trump's cronies.
Childs is charged with soliciting prostitution on a warrant dated Feb. 18. The bond amount is listed at $1,000.
Childs, who has a home in Chestnut Hill and one in Vero Beach, Florida, was ranked as one of Brookline's most wealthiest residents in 2016 with an estimated net worth of $1.2 billion, according to the AffluenceIQ Top 50 list. Childs is a major Republican donor.
Whom that be wrote:
John Havens, JJ Childs....these are the bigger fish than Kraft.
They are not the referenced bigger name(s). These two were known immediately. Havens name was on the same list as Kraft.
they aint wrote:
Whom that be wrote:
John Havens, JJ Childs....these are the bigger fish than Kraft.
They are not the referenced bigger name(s). These two were known immediately. Havens name was on the same list as Kraft.
I doubt there are actually any bigger names than Kraft in this case.
Just because one sports guy says there are don't mean a damned thing
they aint wrote:
Whom that be wrote:
John Havens, JJ Childs....these are the bigger fish than Kraft.
They are not the referenced bigger name(s). These two were known immediately. Havens name was on the same list as Kraft.
There's some confusion in the media.
Jupiter (FL) police had one list, Vero Beach PD had another.
https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/2019-02-22.pngNot on the list (Havens) wrote:
they aint wrote:
They are not the referenced bigger name(s). These two were known immediately. Havens name was on the same list as Kraft.
There's some confusion in the media.
Jupiter (FL) police had one list, Vero Beach PD had another.
https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/2019-02-22.png
Pretty entertaining how old most of those guys are. Some dude born in 1934. Old dudes and their Asian fetish...
Mi Soh Hoeny
sub sub elite local hobby jogger wrote:
Not on the list (Havens) wrote:
There's some confusion in the media.
Jupiter (FL) police had one list, Vero Beach PD had another.
https://zh-prod-1cc738ca-7d3b-4a72-b792-20bd8d8fa069.storage.googleapis.com/s3fs-public/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/2019-02-22.pngPretty entertaining how old most of those guys are. Some dude born in 1934. Old dudes and their Asian fetish...
Who ever that 85 year old is, he deserves a medal.
Lets CEE wrote:
Just because one sports guy says there are don't mean a damned thing
When said "sports guy" is well known for having access to a ton of high-level sources and not breaking stories unless he's got solid information, it actually means quite a bit.
The Original P.i.m.p. Baller wrote:
Lets CEE wrote:
Just because one sports guy says there are don't mean a damned thing
When said "sports guy" is well known for having access to a ton of high-level sources and not breaking stories unless he's got solid information, it actually means quite a bit.
Schecter has law enforcement sources that nobody else does?
isn't it more likely he is steering the conversation away from Kraft?
Let's make a bet, shall we?
I will give five to one odds.
Pullease wrote:
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Kraft was just a customer, I doubt he knows who owns the place or where the girls came from. When someone famous is busted for solicitation it always becomes public information. As for the charges he is unlikely to receive anything more than probation.
A 78 year old man has no clue that these girls are victims of white slavers?
Maybe at the top of the chain are Israelis, who are huge in human trafficking.
Kraft is to receive the "Jewish Nobel Prize" in Israel later this year. Maybe that is the connect.
A billionaire is going to try to make a few bucks by partnering in some human trafficking prostitution ring?
SDSU Aztec wrote:
A billionaire is going to try to make a few bucks by partnering in some human trafficking prostitution ring?
Jeffrey Epstein and co.
You wanna bet wrote:
The Original P.i.m.p. Baller wrote:
When said "sports guy" is well known for having access to a ton of high-level sources and not breaking stories unless he's got solid information, it actually means quite a bit.
Schecter has law enforcement sources that nobody else does?
isn't it more likely he is steering the conversation away from Kraft?
Let's make a bet, shall we?
I will give five to one odds.
Or a Kraft-linked source leaked it to Shefter, not Shecter, who can't name it until corroborated by an authoritative source.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Pullease wrote:
A 78 year old man has no clue that these girls are victims of white slavers?
Maybe at the top of the chain are Israelis, who are huge in human trafficking.
Kraft is to receive the "Jewish Nobel Prize" in Israel later this year. Maybe that is the connect.
A billionaire is going to try to make a few bucks by partnering in some human trafficking prostitution ring?
An official partner? Of course not. But if it was Israeli pals who steered him to the business and he was a happy repeat customer then of course he'd be in a position to prefer to protect those pals. It's as plausible as him just having the chauffeur pick one on a google maps search.
SDSU Aztec wrote:
Orchid of Asia wrote:
The cops planted cameras have it on video that Kraft paid and engaged in a sexual act with a victim of sexual trafficking. They have hard evidence and want him and his attorneys to fully cooperate to nail the people running this ring and get it and his name out of the news cycle ASAP. That's why it's being played this way. Then, when charges are dropped for cooperating with investigators, the video will somehow find its way to TMZ and we'll all be in for another round of being grossed out.
Kraft was just a customer, I doubt he knows who owns the place or where the girls came from. When someone famous is busted for solicitation it always becomes public information. As for the charges he is unlikely to receive anything more than probation.
Oh? He just happened to be driving past a some strip mall (Strip Mall ....lol) in the burbs and decide to drop in?
Come on son. He went there knowing full well. A guy of his repute doesn't randomly stop for a bj.
Film at 11.
Childs in the former president of Ducks Unlimited's Wetlands America Trust.
In 2008, he told TCPalm he moved to Vero Beach to escape the cold.
"I had friends there and I came down, liked what I saw. There were ducks, water fowl, porpoises in the river, even a resident bald eagle in a tree half a mile away, and so I settled in Vero Beach," he said.
More: Indian River County benefactor Ken Wessel arrested as part of Florida human trafficking sting
More: Patriots owner Robert Kraft charged with soliciting prostitution in Florida spa
The first charge is a second-degree misdemeanor, punishable by 60 days in jail. The second charge is a first-degree misdemeanor, punishable by up to a year in jail.
Florida statutes require a minimum of 10 days in jail for any offenses after the first violation. A conviction also carries the possibility of a $5,000 fine, 100 hours of community service and participation in educational programs.
An investigation into the spa, which opened in 2012, began in October.
Surveillance revealed a steady stream of male clients at the nondescript business in a Jupiter strip center between 9 a.m. and 11:30 p.m. They would stay for 30 minutes to an hour, arrest records show.
Tens of millions of dollars began to be seized and about 300 arrest warrants were issued this week in connection with the 10 spas:
Cove Day Spa: 6136 S.E. U.S.1, Stuart
Therapy Spa: 2836 S.E. U.S. 1, Stuart
Bridge Day Spa: 11774 S.E. U.S. 1, Hobe Sound
Orchids of Asia Day Spa: 103 U.S. 1, Jupiter
Sequoia Apple Day Spa: 10447 S.E. U.S. 1, Hobe Sound
East Spa: 2345 14th Ave., Suite 10, Vero Beach
AA Massage: 1547 U.S. 1, Sebastian
East Sea Spa: 13401 U.S. 1, Sebastian
East Spa: 1410A Gene St., Winter Park
Rainbow Spa: 1809-2 E. Colonial Drive, Orlando
