Could Ryan Hall also make the Olympics in weight lifting

Sally Vix wrote:

so much nope wrote:

1. There' s no bench press in the Olympics.

2. He's not bench pressing. This is a decline press with his butt off the bench.

3. 205x20 isn't particularly good. I mean, it's decent for a beginner like him, but there will be 25 non-athletes in my college gym this afternoon who can do more.

I suspect you posted this to ridicule him. I like him and and don't want to make fun of him, but to answer your question, that's a big nope.

The late great Greg Kovaks did not do Olympic lifts but he was 420 pounds and could do like behind-the-neck military presses for reps at close to 500 pounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14wIIKVokX8

Saying Ryan Hall isn't a god weightlifter because he can't lift as much as Greg Kovaks is kind of like saying Floyd Mayweather isn't a good boxer because he can't beat Deontay Wilder. Uh, ever hear of weight classes?

Can I make the Olympics? 17:30 5k runner here.

Hounddog harrier wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

The late great Greg Kovaks did not do Olympic lifts but he was 420 pounds and could do like behind-the-neck military presses for reps at close to 500 pounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=14wIIKVokX8

Saying Ryan Hall isn't a god weightlifter because he can't lift as much as Greg Kovaks is kind of like saying Floyd Mayweather isn't a good boxer because he can't beat Deontay Wilder. Uh, ever hear of weight classes?

Good lord. Even in his weight class he would DFL at any raw powerlifting meet. He would need to be around 1000-1100 total, and that’s with a paused bench, to not get DFL.

In my experience the Squat is the hardest lift for a runner or for anyone who still runs even a little bit. Looking at his legs, he needs to squat more.

He’s mediocre. That’s not a knock. He doesn’t suck. He’s “gym strong”. Walk into any big box gym and few people squat or deadlift so you have an inflated sense of worth if you do.

He’s happy, he’s getting stronger, god bless him. Leave it at that.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

Sally Vix wrote:

A 405 deadlift is pretty impressive especially for a former runner. I would really be impressed if he can do that.

405 with straps and a rolling start.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BoehuHOBVWZ/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

My guess is his bench is around 250 and squats around 300, maybe 315. Depends on if he is running much.

Just shows you that anyone with time and training can become mediocre at something.

Don’t be impressed. HS Freshman his size are pulling that much. Granted those are some very gifted HS freshman.

As a comparison I’m a “former runner” and over 40 and lift as much as him. Granted his marathon best is 28min faster lol.

Why is he DLing in his living room with sh!tty weights?

Alan

Humble brag much ?

Hounddogharrier wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

405 with straps and a rolling start.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BoehuHOBVWZ/?utm_source=ig_web_button_share_sheet

My guess is his bench is around 250 and squats around 300, maybe 315. Depends on if he is running much.

Just shows you that anyone with time and training can become mediocre at something.

Don’t be impressed. HS Freshman his size are pulling that much. Granted those are some very gifted HS freshman.

As a comparison I’m a “former runner” and over 40 and lift as much as him. Granted his marathon best is 28min faster lol.

Why is he DLing in his living room with sh!tty weights?

Alan

Humble brag much ?

Bragging about mediocre exploits is what I do. I’m in the military so it’s acceptable to over inflate my importance.

Alan

Why is there such excitement over this....he's probably slightly less than your average HS athlete in weightlifting ability.

I have a close friend who is a world-class benchpresser. He has a silver medal from world's and maxes out nearly 800lbs. I have watched him do 17 reps of 360 lbs in training.

That said, he weighs a lot more than Ryan Hall, and has been training hard for over twenty years. Not sure why so many are denigrating Hall, who has undoubtedly accomplished a great deal in running, has a hot wife, and now enjoys lifting to fill the running void. Is he saying he can make the Olympics in lifting? I think not. I could't do what he does in the video and I have lifted regularly for years now. Is the hate because of his religion? Jealousy? Both?

Runningart2004 wrote:

Hounddogharrier wrote:

Humble brag much ?

Bragging about mediocre exploits is what I do. I’m in the military so it’s acceptable to over inflate my importance.

Alan

Haha, that is a great response! Good on you for not getting offended.

Doesn't hall weigh 205 now? In addition to no bench in the Olympics, the scoring is by power to weight ratio, where guys his bodyweight are putting 500lb over their head from the ground. There are people doing 3 times their body weight in lower weight classes (being short helps)

gahagand wrote:

Lol Olympians are lifting four or five times that...20 reps at 205 indicates a max bench of maybe 350? If he can double that he starts to enter the conversation.

Exactly! How do people who care about an olympic sport underestimate olympic athletes?! Olympic weightlifters are way stronger than Ryan. He is soing a great job given how long he has been doing it for sure! That being said to be competitive given that he is about 180 lbs he would have to compete at 81 kg which requires a snatch of 240 lbs and a clean and jerk of 315 lbs, just to be a lower tier lifter on the national level. So a bench press wouldn't be a good way of measuring this, it'd be better to know his front squat and maybe deadlift to determine potential.

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From what others are saying he has deadlifted 405 which is just not that impressive at 180 lbs, especially when this lift required straps. In order to get an idea we can compare lifts we know know from him so they can be compared with national level powerlifters to see if he even has the genetic potential to transition to Olympic Weightlifting.

To just qualify got Nationals at a bodyweight of 83 kg he would need to total about 1380 lbs between the Bench, Squat, and Deadlift. Given a reasonable and liberal estimate of 350 lbs on his bench, the 405 deadlift, and a very liberal 450 on his squat would still have him almost 200 lbs out of qualifying. Basically, his Deadlift and bench are pretty weak for competitive lifting.

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Number one - no way is he squatting 450 or deadlifting 405. I may be wrong but I would be very surprised. BUT, if those numbers that you are throwing out are anywhere close, then for a former 2:04 marathoner to be only 200 lbs. short of qualifying would be a heck of an achievement. It is almost like the legendary Olympic lifter (holder of 80 world records) running a 2:09 marathon.

Absolutely not. 20x205lbs is definitely better than what the average guy in the gym can do, but absolutely pathetic for an elite lifter. I`ve seen the teenage sprinters in my club lift more impressive amounts than what Ryan Hall can do.

lmfao dude he's not maxing out to lock out that's clearly bad for your elobows/joints partial reps your ass lol that would be a half rep he went up around 90% second of all his range of motion was great the only problem I see is his back is way to high up as to create a decline effect which is really bad for your back might as well use a decline bench if that's what he was going for but he was ego lifting as he wanted to show he could do it on a flat bench what a fool

Bro no gives a flying shittt about shirted bench lmfao Kirill has the all time world record at 738.5 gtfo of here

No.

He's a runner, not an elite weightlifter.

Could he make the Olympics ? Probably not . Could he within a year do as many reps at 225 as Gronk ? Definitely!! That would put him in the top .0001% in the world in strength . Not too bad for a formerly wimpy marathoner.

He is not 165. He has to be closer to 190. He has put on serious weight.

The weight just doesn't look good one him it's weird. Head is too small. He needs to lose about 15-20lbs of muscle. Get some tone bro.... Brad Pitt fight club YO.

hall pass wrote:

I have a close friend who is a world-class benchpresser. He has a silver medal from world's and maxes out nearly 800lbs. I have watched him do 17 reps of 360 lbs in training.

That said, he weighs a lot more than Ryan Hall, and has been training hard for over twenty years. Not sure why so many are denigrating Hall, who has undoubtedly accomplished a great deal in running, has a hot wife, and now enjoys lifting to fill the running void. Is he saying he can make the Olympics in lifting? I think not. I could't do what he does in the video and I have lifted regularly for years now. Is the hate because of his religion? Jealousy? Both?

Not to diminish your friend's accomplishments, but Kovaks would do 10 reps at about 600 pounds on the incline bench press which is harder than flat bench press. Huge difference. 360 at 17 reps doesn't seem that great.

Clueless and loud wrote:

Heracles wrote:

I'd estimate Ryan Hall is about 180 lbs. His dead-lift from what I have seen is about 405 (probably can do a little more now, I would imagine?).

That's not that impressive, at all.

His chest strength seems to be more advanced, comparatively speaking. I'm curious what his maximum bench press is. As another user said, his form is really off, and he's pretty much doing it incorrectly/easier his method. I imagine he can bench press at least around 275. That's decent, although maybe for his weight not that impressive in all actuality.

I'm curious how much he squats/front squats, now...

20x205 should mean he can max close to 340. He's cheating the reps with leg drive though so a lot less realistically

You can't really predict a one rep max off of 20 reps, you need to bring it down closer to 4-6. An ex-endurance athlete like Ryan will have a lot better muscle endurance than raw muscle power, so even if he was not cheating with his form, he would be lucky max out at 280. I'm sure once he's at that 300lbs mark, he'll be posting videos.