If they go out in 1:01 is Farah going to go with the pacers? Because there's no way he's going to get a tactical 2:04--2:05 pace where Kipchoge lets him sit and then finish strong. Prediction: 2:03 something for Kipchoge for the win with Farah in 3rd in a 2:04 PB.
I'm curious what pace kipchoge will go. Sub 2:03 has proven too difficult at London. Will he give it another shot? Will he even get crazier and try to PR? Or will he play it safe and go for 2:04 and show everyone what a beast he is in the 2nd half?
Since Farah ... wrote:
Deja vu wrote:
It's not uncommon for Kipchoge to do sessions of repeat 400m in 61-62 on 45-60 sec recovery at altitude on a dirt track. Kipchoge already destroyed Farah in London last year.
Since Mohammed Farah has had a trade mark sub-1:55 last 800m, don't you think Farah's training is nothing like 65 440 yards or 62 400m as you are stating?
I have no idea what you're trying to say, man. It's obvious English is not your first language, so please understand that I'm not trying to be a jerk. Can you take the time to explain your question another way?
adgadsa wrote:
He'll spank his bony ass so hard it'll break his hand
I think it will be a 1
It's just going to be two separate races. Mo isn't going to try to run 2:02.
David S wrote:
It's just going to be two separate races. Mo isn't going to try to run 2:02.
Are you sure about that?
Last year Mo DID go out at 61 flat like Kipchoge did. I think that means he will indeed go with the lead group no matter what. It was warmer London than usual, and he still held together "OK" considering the fast start. Then in Chicago, he ran 205 with a pretty nice negative split of 63/62. At what point, if any, would you like Farah's chances?
61:00 (2:02:00) - Nope
61:15 (2:02:30) - Nope
61:30 (2:03:00) - Nope
61:45 (2:03:30) - Doubtful, but I think Farah would be in the picture at the finish.
62:00 (2:04:00) - Still doubtful, but if Kipchoge is not in top shape, then it is possible.
62:15 (2:04:30) - Even odds. Kipchoge has only went this "slow" like once outside of the Olympics, and Farah should have the strength by then to finish fast.
62:30 (2:05:00) - Farah. Either the weather was bad or Kipchoge was totally off his game to go this slow.
Any pace first half with a significant slow down in second half, which is not due to hot conditions, I think favors Farah as well. Championship pedigree, improving rapidly at the marathon, and Kipchoge has to eventually have a bad day, right?
Since Farah ... wrote:
Deja vu wrote:
It's not uncommon for Kipchoge to do sessions of repeat 400m in 61-62 on 45-60 sec recovery at altitude on a dirt track. Kipchoge already destroyed Farah in London last year.
Since Mohammed Farah has had a trade mark sub-1:55 last 800m, don't you think Farah's training is nothing like 65 440 yards or 62 400m as you are stating?
Has anyone ever finished a marathon with an 800m in sub 2:05? How slow would Farah have to run in order to be able to finish with a 1:55 800m?
farah might be a 203 guy, for sure a 204 guy.
at the finish of a marathon, farah is not going to kick, after running 203 pace.
so forget about that.
kip is a 201 guy, so its 201 against 203.
if kip is off his game a bit and farah has a great day,
it wll be neck and neck.
of course you bet kip even money....
all the above is a no brainer.... just sayin for the folks that be learning.
Kipchoge beats Mo handily in a fast race, guess he'll run the legs offa him. There are several ways he could do this, depending on how the race develops.
Regarding "Gaylan", all I can say is that homophobia is still not cool.
have any of you chumps ever seen Kipchoge run a fully tactical marathon. NEVER (at least to the best of my knowledge) has the guy sat with a pack all the way to 35km. That has never happened. That would be the only way fro mo to win but Kipchoge won't allow it. Dude is gonna lay on the gas from the start like all of his races and the pack will thin. I love Mo but he's not gonna get spanked in April...his tight little British anaI cavity is gonna get torn open by grandmaster Kipchoge.
Probably a 10. Depends how much juice Mo is using these days.
dbsquirtNXC21 wrote:
have any of you chumps ever seen Kipchoge run a fully tactical marathon. NEVER (at least to the best of my knowledge) has the guy sat with a pack all the way to 35km. That has never happened. That would be the only way fro mo to win but Kipchoge won't allow it. Dude is gonna lay on the gas from the start like all of his races and the pack will thin. I love Mo but he's not gonna get spanked in April...his tight little British anaI cavity is gonna get torn open by grandmaster Kipchoge.
The best a man can get
Is this the Kipchoge who was scared to face Farah on the track for the past 6 years.
Only fun runners have made the marathon so important to some it used to be for those who couldn't cut it on the track or were near the ends of their careers
Runners do the shortest distance they can win at other than for money
Jimmy21 wrote:
I'm curious what pace kipchoge will go. Sub 2:03 has proven too difficult at London. Will he give it another shot? Will he even get crazier and try to PR? Or will he play it safe and go for 2:04 and show everyone what a beast he is in the 2nd half?
It was too warm last year.
London is not the fastest course but Kipchoge could still go sub 2:03. Its not going cost more than a minute if the weather is right
THOUGHTSLEADER wrote:
If they go out in 1:01 is Farah going to go with the pacers? Because there's no way he's going to get a tactical 2:04--2:05 pace where Kipchoge lets him sit and then finish strong. Prediction: 2:03 something for Kipchoge for the win with Farah in 3rd in a 2:04 PB.
That’s the answer. Farah within 1:39 of Kipchoge but Farah in 3rd place.
So for your scale: a 10 in the sense that Farah never had a shot (outside of Kipchoge DNF/DNS/random weird event like getting tackled by a spectator) but a 2 in the sense that Farah will have a respectable finish.
Mo Farah will beat Kipchoge
London 2018 was Mo's first proper attempt at a marathon ofcourse he can't keep up with the world champ who had perfected marathon running. But since then Mo has shown drastic improvement, he is a competitor he currently has more speed the Kipchoge and has a extra year of running in his legs. Mo Farah has got this prepare for a upset.
In marathon Kipchoge is entirely on different level compared to anyone. There are zero athletes on the stage right now who could compete with Kipchoge.
But don't underestimate Mo. I respect Farah for his will to fight and suffer till the end. We have seen Farah looking like he is going to die falling back from leader group numerous times but still he always comes back and finishes strong. He can't beat Kipchoge in the marathon but Mo can produce a really good performance and finish strong. The win in Chicago and last years third place in London just underlines my words.
Jimmy21 wrote:
I'm curious what pace kipchoge will go. Sub 2:03 has proven too difficult at London. Will he give it another shot? Will he even get crazier and try to PR? Or will he play it safe and go for 2:04 and show everyone what a beast he is in the 2nd half?
63 first half with a sub 60 second half from Kipchoge to send Mo home devastated.
If they get rid of the pacemakers or instruct them to jog 2.05 pace, zero.
I know we all want to see fast times but a race that's over after 800m because the organisers have hired 'Kipchoge pace' pacers isn't that interesting. Might as well have Kipchoge run behind a car with its sunroof up ;-)
The question should be will kipsang going to spank Farah or it will be the other way