San Silvester Kiplimo 26:40 B. Kosgei 29:54

People are so gullible. Course was way short

Not a College Runner wrote:

People are so gullible. Course was way short

So is your dong.

Just looked like a fast course, not short. First 8k or so were fairly strong downhill then with a short climb.

I know the course was fast (and unfortunately not record eligible) but what an impressive first up 10K from Obiri - Going sub 30 first time up will really get heads turning.

Lets face it, up until now womens 10k (most notably track 10k) have been weak tactical events which have NOT been populated by the best of the worlds talent, and not been run to maximize potential. - Ayana has had it all her own way on the track due to the fact that her nearest potential rivals have focused on the road events where the money is.

My hope is that we see Obiri, Ayana and Hassan running 10k at Doha and Tokyo. - Ironically, Ayana will most likely drop the 5k at worlds/Olympics and focus on her title defense at 10k, whilst Hassan and Obiri may double over both. - Just watch as these three all go sub 29.30 in their battle for glory. There will be no sit and kick mark my words!

Personal thoughts on Obiri - her running form doesnt seem so much suited for the longer distances (Half/Full Marathon) She has a very long reaching stride and excessive arm movement. her form seems both very energetic and energy sapping. She seems to lack the effortless rhythmic economy of movement demonstrated by the likes of Ayana, Keitany, & Cheruiyot,

I also agree that Obiri doesn’t have the most efficient style (too much arm movement being the key one for me) but it does seem to work! Kosgei seems to have come out of nowhere too, 2:18 marathon in October and now this. Fantastic - it’s not often Dibaba goes almost completely unnoticed in a race.

Obiri/Hassan/Ayana over 10,000m will be an outrageous watch.

Here is the race: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qixubMS3YNI

This course is point to point and downhill. Not legit.

Something else wrote:

This course is point to point and downhill. Not legit.

how much downhill? A 26:40 on the road on a fair course indicates almost wr track shape.

Kiplimo almost goes down slipping on a metal grate at 26:20 and then 10 seconds later some buffoon sprays him from head to toe with ???shaving cream??? Reminded me of the big marathons back in the day with little to no crowd control with fans pressing in from both sides of the road. SO different than watching any of the 15 or so USATF Championship road races in the US where you've only got a tiny handful of fans with most all of them at the finish and virtually not a soul out on the course. And though a net downhill, there were all sorts of tight turns. Lastly, what was up with that lead vehicle shining two bright floodlights back into the lead pack runner's eyes?

Wolf's Bane wrote:

Something else wrote:

This course is point to point and downhill. Not legit.

how much downhill? A 26:40 on the road on a fair course indicates almost wr track shape.

I believe it was about 720 meters to 620 meters, so 350+ feet in only 10k.

Once you get wind at your back, you should be flying there.

Kiplimo almost goes down slipping on a metal grate at 26:20 and then 10 seconds later some buffoon sprays him from head to toe with ???shaving cream??? Reminded me of the big marathons back in the day with little to no crowd control with fans pressing in from both sides of the road. SO different than watching any of the 15 or so USATF Championship road races in the US where you've only got a tiny handful of fans with most all of them at the finish and virtually not a soul out on the course. And though a net downhill, there were all sorts of tight turns. Lastly, what was up with that lead vehicle shining two bright floodlights back into the lead pack runner's eyes?

https://youtu.be/qixubMS3YNI

kmaclam wrote:

Kiplimo almost goes down slipping on a metal grate at 26:20 and then 10 seconds later some buffoon sprays him from head to toe with ???shaving cream??? Reminded me of the big marathons back in the day with little to no crowd control with fans pressing in from both sides of the road. SO different than watching any of the 15 or so USATF Championship road races in the US where you've only got a tiny handful of fans with most all of them at the finish and virtually not a soul out on the course. And though a net downhill, there were all sorts of tight turns. Lastly, what was up with that lead vehicle shining two bright floodlights back into the lead pack runner's eyes?

The 'spray tradition' is nothing compared to 10-15 years ago... just check Kipchoge's or Radcliffe's victory pictures.

You should run this race to understand how amazing is the Vallecas fans, and how they cheer you up last 2k far from bothering you they literally push you to the limit...

Absolutely the best road race in the world (despite some stupid people spraying athletes).

Not an easy course.

Some of you need to get out and race more.

Awesome performance.

Kiplimo has been in Cheptegei's shadow.

Great race! Yes, I saw the slip and I believe it's called 'silly string' the fan sprayed. Crowds reminded me of the old Boston Marathon days...

People said the same thing about Hassan's ( appear to be energy zapping) horrendous running form, especially leg kick and arm swing, and she almost broke the world record in her first half marathon! and don't forget Paula Radcliffe's over aggressive head bob and arm swim.

So that does notreally mean anything. I come to learn that a person's natural running form is simply their natural form, and as long as they are comfortable in it and have success with it, then that is all that matters.

Several hours ago in Spain.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qixubMS3YNI&t=1881s

26'39" what a crazy time. Sub 28 on the road is already crazy...

How long since a 10 000m has been fastest than that??

*looks at shoes of those runners*

Vaporflies.

this is getting ridiculous.

kmaclam wrote:

Kiplimo almost goes down slipping on a metal grate at 26:20 and then 10 seconds later some buffoon sprays him from head to toe with ???shaving cream??? Reminded me of the big marathons back in the day with little to no crowd control with fans pressing in from both sides of the road...

Nah, the shaving cream is a tradition in this race and all athletes should be donning it, I think from the start of the race.

Here Kipchoge and Tadesse are all smeared with the cream you can hardly recognize them by their faces!

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