Canadoh wrote:
Wait, really? The record was only Drayton’s 2:10 low? I thought it was better. 2:09:xx is obviously good, but, I mean...he was 4th today behind a trio of nobodies. Great comeback for Cam Levins, but not a world class performance.
And Cam finished ahead of Robertson, KipRotich, and Limo.
peekay wrote:
Canadoh wrote:
Wait, really? The record was only Drayton’s 2:10 low? I thought it was better. 2:09:xx is obviously good, but, I mean...he was 4th today behind a trio of nobodies. Great comeback for Cam Levins, but not a world class performance.
Yet somehow no American other than Rupp can break 2:12 right now.
It isn't a talent thing, because it is not just Africans doing it. You have Rupp, Levins, Moen, Robertson twins, several Japanese all well under 2:10. Frustrating for American fans.
read the message board an american did 2;10 low today
Good job but his 10k time is worth at least a 206. Solid debut hope he builds from here
alsal wrote:
peekay wrote:
Yet somehow no American other than Rupp can break 2:12 right now.
It isn't a talent thing, because it is not just Africans doing it. You have Rupp, Levins, Moen, Robertson twins, several Japanese all well under 2:10. Frustrating for American fans.
read the message board an american did 2;10 low today
Pretty sure that wasn’t an American. Eritrean, unless he suddenly has citizenship.
Alan
I was on the course and it was pretty blustery and cold in Cam's face the last 4k (1c -36F- and 20km- 12 mph- wind). He looked amazing and was flying over the last 6k. He can go faster for sure, as he clearly took it cautiously for his first one.... Toronto is a fair course, but it is no Berlin, Dubai, Chicago or London. If he stays injury free I think 2:07 is for sure possible.
Cam strikes me as much better off training by himself with Houle than being thrown in among the wolves of NOP as he was. Good on him and his coach.
dusty_xc wrote:
is Stinson sponsored by Nike? wrote:
Haha. The funny thing is there was a 2:06 group and Levins was smart to know he needed his own 2:08-2:09 pacing, just a minute slower to the half but a huge difference in the marathon.
Meanwhile Stinson is running 2:05 pace for the first half and finishing at 2:12+ because "I don't do negative splits" or whatever. LOL.
Is 1:05:12 2:06 pace? Look at his splits brother. He went out in the first 5k pretty quick but his first half was pretty reasonable. In contrast though Cam's first 5k was his second slowest of the race and he only split one really fast 5k.
Dumb take. He went out *hugely* too fast for ~ the first 4 miles (like ~2:07-ish pace), and then slowed substantially, but obviously had already fried himself and wrecked his race in the first 20 minutes.
Which is why he finished at close to 6-min pace.
When have the Robertson twins been well under 2:10?
Cedar wrote:
He is back training under Coach Houle. He did a several week altitude block in Cedar just before the marathon. A couple of his recent runs are posted on Stava.
Coach Houle is an awesome person and coach.
cheapskate Canadians wrote:
Levins got robbed. Canadians are cheap. Shitara got 900,000k for breaking a record from 2002. Cam breaks a record from 1975 and gets a lousy 32,000 USD.
Was also on the course and he was solid. Looked so relaxed. Felt bad near the finish as everyone's looking for their "2 hr half hero" on the other side of the road and barely noticed what he did. Was cheering loudly for him, he heard us saw he was going to make the time and gave a good fist pump!
Robertson on the other hand looked devastated. Was struggling to finish behind him.
I predicted DNF for Levins and was dead wrong.
Well done, Cam!
Hhhhjjjj wrote:
Good job but his 10k time is worth at least a 206. Solid debut hope he builds from here
2:09 is at least 2:06.
dusty_xc wrote:
is Stinson sponsored by Nike? wrote:
Haha. The funny thing is there was a 2:06 group and Levins was smart to know he needed his own 2:08-2:09 pacing, just a minute slower to the half but a huge difference in the marathon.
Meanwhile Stinson is running 2:05 pace for the first half and finishing at 2:12+ because "I don't do negative splits" or whatever. LOL.
Is 1:05:12 2:06 pace? Look at his splits brother. He went out in the first 5k pretty quick but his first half was pretty reasonable. In contrast though Cam's first 5k was his second slowest of the race and he only split one really fast 5k.
No moron, look at Stinson's first 5k!!!!!! Please tell me that you're a hobby jogger so I can forgive your ignorance? Gosh there are some real dummies on this forum.
2:09 > 2:06 wrote:
Hhhhjjjj wrote:
Good job but his 10k time is worth at least a 206. Solid debut hope he builds from here
2:09 is at least 2:06.
He may indeed have 2:06 in him. Hope he builds from here and eventually gets that.
Going from 2:09 to 2:06 is fairly reasonable. Especially considering his 10000m time and the fact he's coming off multiple surgeries with 4 years of crap performances
alsal wrote:
the secret is for the athlete to leave wrote:
Eric Houle at SUU coached Levins to a better marathon than Salazar could.
Gary Lough coached Levins to a better marathon than Salazar could.
I am noticing a pattern.
you mean gary lough coached farah
Where does Jama Aden and his cache of EPO and steroids fit into Farah's picture?
[quote]YMMV wrote:
[quote]cheapskate Canadians wrote:
Levins got robbed. Canadians are cheap. Shitara got 900,000k for breaking a record from 2002. Cam breaks a record from 1975 and gets a lousy 32,000 USD.[/
Canada is a poor, third-world country, which is why they legalized pot, to blot out the sorrow of living there.
Man Overboard wrote:
I predicted DNF for Levins and was dead wrong.
Well done, Cam!
Wow, this kind of post is rare here. Good job.
SalmonRice wrote:
Going from 2:09 to 2:06 is fairly reasonable. Especially considering his 10000m time and the fact he's coming off multiple surgeries with 4 years of crap performances
Levins went pro and tried to be a world beater right away. That didn't work. He's learned from that and refocused his training. He is most likely going to keep chipping away at better and better performances until finally getting to where we all thought he should end up. Good for him for not continuing on the NOP way, for not giving up, and for doing what works for him.
Cheers