Parker Stinson Monster Workout wrote:
Did Parker Stinson just throw down 35k on dirt roads at altitude @ 5:12 pace (source: instagram post by Brad Hudson) That’s only 7k short of of a 2:16 marathon.. Chicago Predictions? He’s clearly fit to run something stupid and maybe tango with the big boys.
How about being consistent w either metric or imperial? Kms or miles. "35km at 5:12/mile pace" is meaningless.
35km @ 3:15/km
21.7 miles at 5:12/mile
Judas F-ing Johnson....
running commenter wrote:
Buffs wrote:
You know Boulder is at 5,300ft right?
Yes, another reason why he will not replicate this in October. Clearly a race effort.
Dude, who cares - we're 4.5 weeks out from the race. More than enough time to recover, especially for a professional runner.
Record heat is forecast for Chicago this year. He'll grind out a 2:21 if he doesn't wisely DNF.
So much for global warming.
HahaRiiiiiiight wrote:
running commenter wrote:
Yes, another reason why he will not replicate this in October. Clearly a race effort.
Dude, who cares - we're 4.5 weeks out from the race. More than enough time to recover, especially for a professional runner.
Whatever you say, Parker.
2:14:46 exactly
Hudson always overdoes the workouts.
Parker Stinson Monster Workout wrote:
Did Parker Stinson just throw down 35k on dirt roads at altitude @ 5:12 pace (source: instagram post by Brad Hudson) That’s only 7k short of of a 2:16 marathon.. Chicago Predictions? He’s clearly fit to run something stupid and maybe tango with the big boys.
DNF, but at least the Insta is rockin!
Stinson is not held back by a lack of aerobic power, but rather muscle power
Altitude conversions are faulty for that sort of runner.
But this time, I have to say, the overtraining is in a new realm.
One of the problems with the internet is overtraining gets incentivized
dsrunner wrote:
Stinson is not held back by a lack of aerobic power, but rather muscle power
Altitude conversions are faulty for that sort of runner.
But this time, I have to say, the overtraining is in a new realm.
One of the problems with the internet is overtraining gets incentivized
A lot of criticism from LRC fanbois on these hard workouts at altitude here - I'm even more interested to see what he runs now. I'm obviously bullish on Stinson - I'll stick with 2:10.
I'm not really a Stinson fan but something tells me he's ready for a 2:10. yeah this workout was probably too hard, but it's 4 weeks out still.
we really need another 2:10 guy in the US so I'm rooting for Parker to become that guy.
No single workout is going to blow your load unless it takes so much out of you that you can hardly run the next week. Short of that, the risks are either (1) having such a workout too close to the peak race so that you're not fully recovered or (2) sustained and chronic overtraining that ultimately suppresses the adaptive response to training. In the latter circumstance, the monster workout can contribute, but it's not the sole cause.
I see Stinson replicating what Luke P did at Chicago before the 2016 Trials. He knocks out a 2:10-11 and finishes 5th or so. Race is won in the 2:05-7 range. But if the pace is hot I can see him really going for it. Maybe he'll hang on better than he did at CIM.
Stinson a dark horse for the Trials. He's putting in the work and seems to have the guts to run faster than the 2:12-15 marathons we're seeing from everyone not named Rupp.
running commenter wrote:
HahaRiiiiiiight wrote:
Dude, who cares - we're 4.5 weeks out from the race. More than enough time to recover, especially for a professional runner.
Whatever you say, Parker.
0/10
800 dude wrote:
No single workout is going to blow your load unless it takes so much out of you that you can hardly run the next week. Short of that, the risks are either (1) having such a workout too close to the peak race so that you're not fully recovered or (2) sustained and chronic overtraining that ultimately suppresses the adaptive response to training. In the latter circumstance, the monster workout can contribute, but it's not the sole cause.
Agree. The OP should follow-up with what Stinson's done since, how does he recover from that 35k without overtraining. It would also be interesting to see what he was doing before that long tempo run.
Who convinced so many of these U.S. guys (or coaches) not to race or not to race something shorter than a 1/2 or 20k before marathons? A road 10k might be a better indicator of what he could be capable of racing and should be easier to recover from. I hope he races well, but I'm seeing a familiar pattern that produced disappointing results from other U.S. runners.
Parker Stinson Monster Workout wrote:
Did Parker Stinson just throw down 35k on dirt roads at altitude @ 5:12 pace (source: instagram post by Brad Hudson) That’s only 7k short of of a 2:16 marathon.. Chicago Predictions? He’s clearly fit to run something stupid and maybe tango with the big boys.
If he's being coached by Hudson, he's probably overtrained !
Jim Walmsley throws down monster workouts before races too....How does that usually wind up for him?
I hope he has a phenomenal marathon and hit between 2:08:55 and 2:10:15
To all the overtraining speculation...shouldn't we be taking his race results into account? Seems like he'd been racing well this year at different distances since bombing at CIM. Hudsons training must have been working for those races
Hope the best for him, but I really think he’s going to end up between 2:12-2:14 like every American (besides Rupp) always does.