I'm not "trying to say" anything, I AM saying it.
Every athlete who before Coleman went wind-legal 9.80-or-better has tested positive except for Greene (who was implicated by Heredia), and Dolt, who reigned as t&f's golden goose during a period of acknowledged corruption, cover-up, and bribery.
Mullings
BJ
Greene
Monty
Carter
Gatlin
Powell
Gay
Blake
Dolt
You do the math.
Yawn. What is the prediction as to when he gets busted? 2018? 2019? Tic toc tic toc
Also, how did the title of this thread get changed? I entitled it just "Coleman 9.79" when I started it, what happened?
Yep, add Coleman to that long list of dirty sprinters. Once ya hit sub 9.80, yep...dirty.
Sheesh~~~~~~~~~~~~
Other things in this race were that Baker completely missed his start, but still managed to get 2nd, which is impressive.
And also Blake, who ran what looked to be his best race of the season, and maybe his best in the past couple of seasons, where he actually looked somewhat relaxed and wasn't just powering it down the track. He is still a bit blocky, but his timing looks to have gotten better. Nice time to peak.
Sprintgeezer wrote:
Also, how did the title of this thread get changed? I entitled it just "Coleman 9.79" when I started it, what happened?
They freaking merged our threads into one thread, so basically they didn't delete our threads. That way they stay in line with their free expression rules.
pretty sneaky, sis!
ex-runner wrote:
Despite all the nonsense by half the board about performances declining, drug testing improved yada yada, this year has been one of the best for times.
The men's world leads from 100 to 3000 are some of the fastest times we've ever seen. I don't know what this board talks about half the time.
New generation of drugs must have been released this year...
Was he doping when he ran 9.82?
Sprintgeezer wrote:
This is a huge time. I love the fact that it is 9.79, how poetic.
It is something like 9.78 basic, run in mid-60’s temperature. Are you kidding me? That is 9.68-9.69 with max allowable wind.
HUGE red flag. Indoor record, comes out ok outdoors, injures his ham, comes back in the big-money championship to run 9.79. Remind you of anyone?
Hint, his doctor lives in Munich.
decent 200m wrote:
Sprintgeezer wrote:
Oh, I forgot the other parallel...was always having problems with his second half, then magically has a race where his 2nd half is as good as anybody’s, and the championship field makes up no ground whatsoever.
Yeeeaahhhh, right.
Coleman was a 19"8, 200m sprinter when running it in college. I don't think that he has an intrinsically poor 2nd half
That's because you don't know much about sprinting.
These are two different events. Coleman loses a bit of control in the last half of a 100. He loses only about 3/100ths, but it compounds as he hears footsteps. His arms come cross and he drops off his toes.
The 200 is completely different. Its an endurance sprint. He never reaches the level of speed as he does in the 100, and his technique doesn't let him down as much.
Its a coaching issue.
oboeviolin wrote:
decent 200m wrote:
Coleman was a 19"8, 200m sprinter when running it in college. I don't think that he has an intrinsically poor 2nd half
That's because you don't know much about sprinting.
These are two different events. Coleman loses a bit of control in the last half of a 100. He loses only about 3/100ths, but it compounds as he hears footsteps. His arms come cross and he drops off his toes.
The 200 is completely different. Its an endurance sprint. He never reaches the level of speed as he does in the 100, and his technique doesn't let him down as much.
Its a coaching issue.
So why do sprinters run all those 300's?
Why are the fastest 100m sprinters also the fastest 200m spinters?
Why in both the women/men the100m WR holder also hold the 200m WR?
zxcvzxcv wrote:
Was he doping when he ran 9.82?
Who knows, but that Eugene* 9.82 (+1.3) is "only" a 9.88 basic, which is significantly slower than this 9.77 basic from Brussels.
Plus, it was a Eugene* time, a facility that many believe has produced questionable timing in particular races.
This 9.77 basic is a really shocking time. I don't like it, at all.
CHRISTIAN COLEMAN GOES CRAZY!! DIAMOND LEAGUE BRUSSELS 2018
Christian Coleman, the 60 meter indoor world record holder, just ended his season in style.
Coleman ran a 9.79 100 meter dash to win the final Diamond League Finale in Brussels, Belgium.
This time is the 7th fastest 100 meter time ever run. Not too shabby for Mr. Coleman
Out of curiosity, why do some sori tees seen to get slower despite not being old? Yohan Blake is much slower now than a few years ago. Ditto Tyson Gay, and Usain Bolt slowed a lot in his late 20s.
Do they just overtrain? Wear out their nervous systems? Over charge their anaerobic systems with too much cortisol and adrenaline? Seems strange as there is no good reason why an adult at age 30 shouldn’t be about the equal of him/herself at 25.
Sole exception seems to be Kim Collins, who basically ran the same for 20 years!
watching a sprinter get away so fast and hold the lead over a group of sub 10 guys and finish with 9.79.......seems sort of familiar
But more importantly, was he relaxed?
Sprintgeezer wrote:
Oh, I forgot the other parallel...was always having problems with his second half, then magically has a race where his 2nd half is as good as anybody’s, and the championship field makes up no ground whatsoever.
Yeeeaahhhh, right.
Ben Johnson was several years into his pro career when he suddenly improved the back half of his 100. Coleman was a sophomore in college. It's apples to oranges.
inthepdx wrote:
ex-runner wrote:
Despite all the nonsense by half the board about performances declining, drug testing improved yada yada, this year has been one of the best for times.
The men's world leads from 100 to 3000 are some of the fastest times we've ever seen. I don't know what this board talks about half the time.
New generation of drugs must have been released this year...
The biggest problem T&F has is its fans. Its fans are a bunch of doomsaying malcontents. Anything good that happens in the sport will immediately be met by accusations of doping. The athlete's specific profile does not matter. The song is always the same.
The sport is dying b/c its fans hate it and are killing it.
MurderDub wrote:
inthepdx wrote:
New generation of drugs must have been released this year...
The biggest problem T&F has is its fans. Its fans are a bunch of doomsaying malcontents. Anything good that happens in the sport will immediately be met by accusations of doping. The athlete's specific profile does not matter. The song is always the same.
The sport is dying b/c its fans hate it and are killing it.
The sport is dying because of 50 plus years of doping and now the average Joe is staying away.
No need to apologize wrote:
MurderDub wrote:
The biggest problem T&F has is its fans. Its fans are a bunch of doomsaying malcontents. Anything good that happens in the sport will immediately be met by accusations of doping. The athlete's specific profile does not matter. The song is always the same.
The sport is dying b/c its fans hate it and are killing it.
The sport is dying because of 50 plus years of doping and now the average Joe is staying away.
There has been 50+ years of doping in every major sport. Nobody is staying away from basketball, football, soccer, etc. The problem is not the doping, it's the fans.