Thoughts on Mondo’s AMERICAN pole vault record?

For an American Record to be ratified doesn’t there need to be a drug test within 48 hours or so?

If so, and Lagat didn’t have a formal drug test after his Zurich 2004 race then there is a time limit to apply for an American Record.

Didn’t that happen with a women’s steeple Record that wasn’t ratified because of this clause?

Agree - athlete should be competing for the country that they break the national record for.[/quote]

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I am personally taking a little joy and Jeff Hartwig losing his record. The guys too much of a prick and I'm surprised Gill Sports Cleveland hired someone like that. Disappointed in David Hodge.

Yeetzus wrote:

According to milesplit, Mondo’s 6.05 will be ratified as the American Record since he is an American citizen, even though he competes for Sweden.

Thoughts?

1. Would have thought for sure Sam Kendricks was destined to break the AR before anyone else.

2. He is clearly an American. I believe he competes for Sweden due to financial or eligibility reasons...does anyone know?

3. Think he may compete as an American in the future?

There was a shot of his old man in the stands wearing a t-shirt with no fewer than 6 company logos on it. Bit of a whore. I'm sure his decision to jump for Sweden has serious financial considerations.

yyyyy wrote:

Yee wrote:

If he represented the USA he would have to compete at the Trials to make Olympic/Worlds teams. Apparently Sweden doesn’t have the same system of qualification.

That seems to point to a lack of self-confidence.

Yes, the Trials are a risk, but this shouldn't be a problem for a star athlete.

I would also assume he can make way more money as an American.

You people are missing the obvious.

He's competing for Sweden because its the European Championships. The USA doesn't get to enter that contest.

He also has a couple of years before he has to declare a nation according to IAAF rules.

He's still a kid.

Tracktown Troll Trolley wrote:

There was a shot of his old man in the stands wearing a t-shirt with no fewer than 6 company logos on it. Bit of a whore. I'm sure his decision to jump for Sweden has serious financial considerations.

So what if Mondo is going to make out well financially by competing for Sweden? Why shouldn't the family make even more money? And what kind of fool are you regarding the old man's shirt bearing six logos? Mondo's dad has every right to accept every advertizing-derived penny or Euro or whatever that is legitimately offered. Advertising, and the money that is paid for the right to advertize, is the name of the game in athletics, if you haven't noticed. There are a lot of so-called whores in sports...just look at a tennis, golf, or soccer event.

I guess Tracktown Troll Trolley believes that Mondo should turn down lots of opportunities and live in a hovel with the folks, because it is fitting and proper and noble to not make money. I think I'll turn down that $20,000 raise on moral grounds, by the way.

I believe nothing of the sort. Project much? Because there are lots of whores in sports, that means nobody should point that out. Maybe he competes for Sweden because he does not want to be associated with dimwitted *ssholes like you (you come off as even more of a moron when you cannot figure out how to spell a simple word like "advertise". )

Eff off.

How can this be an American record if he's not competing for the US? Didn't USC miss out on getting their 4x400 WR ratified for the same thing with Rai Benjamin? He is a US citizen too right?

BBC analyst Tony Minichello babbling on about Duplantis now being the second highest vaulter ever, "after Sergey Bubka," somehow forgetting Lavellinie actually holds the WR (and who was in the competition,) along with Steve Hooker, Maksim Tarasov and Dmitri Markov.

PV coach wrote:

I am personally taking a little joy and Jeff Hartwig losing his record. The guys too much of a prick and I'm surprised Gill Sports Cleveland hired someone like that. Disappointed in David Hodge.

To be fair, Greg is too. No idea about Mondo, he's just a kid.

OK Mr Adverizing executive, I got an idea I want to run by you, and I think its a win-win-win-win for America, Sweden, Mondo, and especially T&F! It's gonna be YUGE! Ready for bigly idea? This is what we do:

We build The Wall 20'3" high (so America wins no matter what), put Mondo in a Swedish jersey and then let him set the world record going over The Wall on his way out of America with Swedish bikini babes welcoming him on the other side!

Admit it Mr. Big Stuff, this idea would be the biggest event since Evil Knievel tried to jump Snake River Canyon.

Star wrote:

Bernard Lagat became a US citizen in 2004 and ran 3:27 that year but that time is not the American Record. He competed for Kenya in the Olympics that year.

Although Lagat became a citizen (May 2004) before the Olympics (August 2004) the US T&F governing body did not process his paperwork until after the Olympics. He was told he could compete for Kenya but not the US until . . . paperwork.

The USATF could have ratified any of Lagat's runs after May 2004 as ARs but they decided not to at a meeting in 2005.

"The U.S. does allow dual citizenship and consequently races run by Lagat after May 7, 2004 could have been ratified as American records, since USATF rules only state that an athlete has to be a U.S. citizen competing in a sanctioned competition to be eligible to set a national record. However, at the 2005 USATF annual meeting, his 3:27.40 win in the 1500 meters, on August 6, 2004, in Zurich, was not ratified as an American record."

Not allowed to compete wrote:

The USATF could have ratified any of Lagat's runs after May 2004 as ARs but they decided not to at a meeting in 2005.

"The U.S. does allow dual citizenship and consequently races run by Lagat after May 7, 2004 could have been ratified as American records, since USATF rules only state that an athlete has to be a U.S. citizen competing in a sanctioned competition to be eligible to set a national record. However, at the 2005 USATF annual meeting, his 3:27.40 win in the 1500 meters, on August 6, 2004, in Zurich, was not ratified as an American record."

Did they cite a reason? If he met all of the requirements and they decided not to on some arbitrary basis....

Well, if he can get the American record ratified, then he should do it, because it is a far more difficult feat than the Swedish record. And there is far more distinction in great achievements. Then too he should compete for the U.S. in next year's World Championships. Who honestly cares about whether he got support to compete at junior or senior nationals as a 15 year old or whatever? He'd make much more as an American and get a lot more attention.

Lagat ran 3:27 in 2004 after citizenship came through but before he publicly declared it. If he had declared it, Kenya would have prevented him from competing in the 2004 Athens Olympics, where he battled Lagat in that fantastic final, as well as probably the 2005 World's, which Kenya did prevent him from competing at. He'd already missed the 2003 World's because Kenya dropped him from the team after the positive A test but before the B test cleared him. So, he was facing missing three straight championships. 3:27 should still be the American record.

zxcvzxcv wrote:

Lagat ran 3:27 in 2004 after citizenship came through but before he publicly declared it. If he had declared it, Kenya would have prevented him from competing in the 2004 Athens Olympics, where he battled Hicham El Guerrouj in that fantastic final, as well as probably the 2005 World's, which Kenya did prevent him from competing at. He'd already missed the 2003 World's because Kenya dropped him from the team after the positive A test but before the B test cleared him. So, he was facing missing three straight championships. 3:27 should still be the American record.

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PV coach wrote:

I am personally taking a little joy and Jeff Hartwig losing his record. The guys too much of a prick and I'm surprised Gill Sports Cleveland hired someone like that. Disappointed in David Hodge.

You do realize that Walker bettered Hartwig's record 10 years ago. The real concern is if mondo jumps something huge like 617+, that we won't see an attempt at the AR for a long, long time.

Is there any precedent for an athlete setting multiple national records at the same time like this? Literally every time this kid PRs now he's going to set the Swedish and US national records.