Loud dead lifting is the worse . Between the lifter trying to lift too much and not handling it on the way down and loud music blasting music in his earphones he doesn't realize this. Many of times dead lifters have been told to keep it down.
You are right this may be staged event. Plus , the are speaking English not French
The term is battery. Not assault. Carry on.
Gyms Rats wrote:
Loud dead lifting is the worse . Between the lifter trying to lift too much and not handling it on the way down and loud music blasting music in his earphones he doesn't realize this. Many of times dead lifters have been told to keep it down.
You are right this may be staged event. Plus , the are speaking English not French
The Deadlift is simply not a quiet exercise. Bumper plates help, but it’s still loud on the way down.
Lifters record their lifts all the time.
Watch anyone pulling reps with over 315. It’s not quiet.
If it were me I would have beat the old guy with my weight belt.
Alan
Also his hips are shooting up, bar drifts in front of him, and he’s hyperextending at lockout.
Alan
Gyms Rats wrote:
Loud dead lifting is the worse . Between the lifter trying to lift too much and not handling it on the way down and loud music blasting music in his earphones he doesn't realize this. Many of times dead lifters have been told to keep it down.
You are right this may be staged event. Plus , the are speaking English not French
Soy boy spotted above. And to the people criticizing his form, while it may need some improvement (which is why one should tape their lifting), compared to how most people deadlift his form is quite good. He let's the weight come to a dead stop for each rep. He isn't hitching it. His back isn't curving. And his hips look good to me.
Just my 0.02
Djdkdkdkdkdkd wrote:
I wouldn't classify that as an assault (maybe a hard unexpected shove, in law terms technically is assault though, I'm not sure), it's not like the guy sucker punched him or threw him to the ground violently or Anything like that which could potentially have long term consequences. Also funny how this video decides not to show the audio of the loud deadlifter lifting, but does show the audio of the confrontation. If someone was randomly screaming it could definitely affect others concentrating in mid workout, not to mention it being very annoying. IMO the screamer is at fault and should be less annoying and I'm sure most gym members would agree if they went to the same gym. I bet a lot of SJWs will defend the screaming dead lifter though.
Not sure about Canadian law, but this is actually battery in the US (See definitions below).
So how did the gym management handle this?
An assault is carried out by a threat of bodily harm coupled with an apparent, present ability to cause the harm. It is both a crime and a tort and, therefore, may result in either criminal or civil liability. Generally, the common law definition is the same in criminal and Tort Law. There is, however, an additional Criminal Law category of assault consisting of an attempted but unsuccessful Battery.
https://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/assaultBattery
Battery is concerned with the right to have one's body left alone by others.
Battery is both a tort and a crime. Its essential element, harmful or offensive contact, is the same in both areas of the law. The main distinction between the two categories lies in the penalty imposed. A defendant sued for a tort is civilly liable to the plaintiff for damages. The punishment for criminal battery is a fine, imprisonment, or both. Usually battery is prosecuted as a crime only in cases involving serious harm to the victim.
Elements
The following elements must be proven to establish a case for battery: (1) an act by a defendant; (2) an intent to cause harmful or offensive contact on the part of the defendant; and (3) harmful or offensive contact to the plaintiff.
The Act The act must result in one of two forms of contact. Causing any physical harm or injury to the victim—such as a cut, a burn, or a bullet wound—could constitute battery, but actual injury is not required. Even though there is no apparent bruise following harmful contact, the defendant can still be guilty of battery; occurrence of a physical illness subsequent to the contact may also be actionable. The second type of contact that may constitute battery causes no actual physical harm but is, instead, offensive or insulting to the victim. Examples include spitting in someone's face or offensively touching someone against his or her will.
Touching the person of someone is defined as including not only contacts with the body, but also with anything closely connected with the body, such as clothing or an item carried in the person's hand. For example, a battery may be committed by intentionally knocking a hat off someone's head or knocking a glass out of some-one's hand.
Intent Although the contact must be intended, there is no requirement that the defendant intend to harm or injure the victim. In Tort Law, the intent must be either specific intent—the contact was specifically intended—or general intent—the defendant was substantially certain that the act would cause the contact. The intent element is satisfied in Criminal Law when the act is done with an intent to injure or with criminal negligence—failure to use care to avoid criminal consequences. The intent for criminal law is also present when the defendant's conduct is unlawful even though it does not amount to criminal negligence.
Intent is not negated if the aim of the contact was a joke. As with all torts, however, consent is a defense. Under certain circumstances consent to a battery is assumed. A person who walks in a crowded area impliedly consents to a degree of contact that is inevitable and reasonable. Consent may also be assumed if the parties had a prior relationship unless the victim gave the defendant a previous warning.
There is no requirement that the plaintiff be aware of a battery at the time it is committed. The gist of the action is the lack of consent to contact. It is no defense that the victim was sleeping or unconscious at the time.
Harmful or Offensive Conduct It is not necessary for the defendant's wrongful act to result in direct contact with the victim. It is sufficient if the act sets in motion a force that results in the contact. A defendant who whipped a horse on which a plaintiff was riding, causing the plaintiff to fall and be injured, was found guilty of battery. Provided all other elements of the offense are present, the offense may also be committed by causing the victim to harm himself. A defendant who fails to act when he or she has a duty to do so is guilty—as where a nurse fails to warn a blind patient that he is headed toward an open window, causing him to fall and injure himself.
This is the part that pisses me off the most. Suddenly adding 100 or so pounds to someone's deadlift in the middle of the lift is a great way to totally ruin someone's back. That dude was a scumbag.
If I went to this same gym, this is how I would retaliate against the older dude:
1. Deadlift loudly with exaggerated grunts to attract his attention. Wink at him if he doesn't take the initial bait.
2. Stalk him and wait for him to do some kind of pressing motion, then go and push down the weights. This would be particularly amusing while he's on the bench press. Though, don't let it come to his throat.
3. Follow him around and do every lift he's doing. Ask how many sets he has left for every station he goes to.
The teenager "Charles" posted this reply on youtube:
"Went to the police station and filed an assault charge, they are investigating to find his name, address, all the good stuff, then they will arrest him and will go to court. If he goes near me after they release him before the court date, I can call the police and he's going to jail. Making sure a retard like him doesn't breaks someone else's back, I was lucky enough he kicked me in the nuts first."
Broooo wrote:
This kid is an idiot. He’s wearing straps, dropping the barbell like a b!tch, and not even pulling any serious weight. He was assaulting the entire gym with his pointless ego lifting. He deserved what he got.
Exactly! Anyone who uses straps or drops the weight on a deadlift is a weak sissy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3mWIOJr5i4IBuzzfit Montreal Update wrote:
The teenager "Charles" posted this reply on youtube:
"Went to the police station and filed an assault charge, they are investigating to find his name, address, all the good stuff, then they will arrest him and will go to court. If he goes near me after they release him before the court date, I can call the police and he's going to jail. Making sure a retard like him doesn't breaks someone else's back, I was lucky enough he kicked me in the nuts first."
That was all good until he tossed out the R word. Now he's in jeopardy again.
Djdkdkdkdkdkd wrote:
I wouldn't classify that as an assault (maybe a hard unexpected shove, in law terms technically is assault though, I'm not sure), it's not like the guy sucker punched him or threw him to the ground violently or Anything like that which could potentially have long term consequences. Also funny how this video decides not to show the audio of the loud deadlifter lifting, but does show the audio of the confrontation. If someone was randomly screaming it could definitely affect others concentrating in mid workout, not to mention it being very annoying. IMO the screamer is at fault and should be less annoying and I'm sure most gym members would agree if they went to the same gym. I bet a lot of SJWs will defend the screaming dead lifter though.
You're an idiot. He wasn't screaming, as you said. Plus, you don't even know what assault is (doesn't have to be physical, that's battery which the older guy is guilty of as well).
Gyms Rats wrote:
Loud dead lifting is the worse . Between the lifter trying to lift too much and not handling it on the way down and loud music blasting music in his earphones he doesn't realize this. Many of times dead lifters have been told to keep it down.
You are right this may be staged event. Plus , the are speaking English not French
no, loud lifters are not the worst, pussssy people who complain are the worst.
last season, i went to summerside pei gym, which is approaching world class, in the middle of no where, has unfortunately developed the worst kind of politically correct culture, or rather stupid beyond belief. what you do is lift gently, so as not to offend anyone, there were about three or four real athletes, one girl, and they really attack the weights, but the average person complained about every one of them, and kicked out the girl for dead lifting grunts, most everyone was in agreement that these people were show offs.
meanwhile the trainers are fat, don't know what they're doing, have some kind of certificate,
PC culture of this generation will go down in history as the most pathetic, counter logic, dumbed down, fktarded possible, the equivalent of Salem mass, and the locals brainpower that figured that nearly everybody was a witch or witch suspetc.
i was on the indoor track doing some sprints and i was warned not to run so fast, there was no one in the vicinity, but they said that if some one was walking i might bump into them. i kid you not, this is the never ending tone of this fricken warped town.
then there is the story of the champion athlete that could not get a job in the gym, because they need to take a course, meanwhile the trainers are 40, maybe 50 pounds overweight, the big gut, and their advice amounts to telling people not to step out of bounds, don't bang the weights, and other completely petty rules.
between saunas i did some jumping on the spot, was told, you can't jump on the spot because it's no allowed, i might fall down, and thats like an insurance liability, i kid you not.
so all the good athletes i met, never stayed, the mediocre fools, nazi the out and dumb everything down,
There’s No Reason To Be Alive If You Can’t Do Deadlift!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWUcHKAj_tc
Alan
From the title, I thought that it was going to be about the deadlifter grunting too loudly. Which wasn't the case. The kicker is a psycho bully, who should be banned from the gym. No way the kicker would do that do a bigger guy.
ok.....why did the other gym guys do anything about this? THey just stood there. Why? Maybe the kid deadlifting isnt liked by anyone from the gym.
Bob Schul Country wrote: Maybe the kid deadlifting isnt liked by anyone from the gym.
Congrats! You take gold in the conclusion jump.
I, embarrassingly, do deadlift sets of about 245 with bumper plates and a rubberized floor and I can’t deadlift quietly. It is the single best left for runners IMHO, but it’s just loud to perform.
I actively try to be quiet because I don’t want people to watch my pathetic lifts, but I’ve determined that’s not possible. A gym that doesn’t want noise should get rid of all Olympic bars and free weights in general.
I think there’s a clash at gyms everywhere between the fitness club crowd and the strength training crowd.
Love that video of The Mountain!
Gym guy wrote:
This is the part that pisses me off the most. Suddenly adding 100 or so pounds to someone's deadlift in the middle of the lift is a great way to totally ruin someone's back. That dude was a scumbag.
If I went to this same gym, this is how I would retaliate against the older dude:
1. Deadlift loudly with exaggerated grunts to attract his attention. Wink at him if he doesn't take the initial bait.
2. Stalk him and wait for him to do some kind of pressing motion, then go and push down the weights. This would be particularly amusing while he's on the bench press. Though, don't let it come to his throat.
3. Follow him around and do every lift he's doing. Ask how many sets he has left for every station he goes to.
You guys eat too much red meat!
Simple Jacques wrote:
Buzzfit Montreal Update wrote:
The teenager "Charles" posted this reply on youtube:
"Went to the police station and filed an assault charge, they are investigating to find his name, address, all the good stuff, then they will arrest him and will go to court. If he goes near me after they release him before the court date, I can call the police and he's going to jail. Making sure a retard like him doesn't breaks someone else's back, I was lucky enough he kicked me in the nuts first."
That was all good until he tossed out the R word. Now he's in jeopardy again.
Stop being a soy, snowflake.
A-hole, jerk, scumbag, roid rager, dickhead, etc - what that older guy did was completely uncalled for.
R D Chong wrote:
Gym guy wrote:
This is the part that pisses me off the most. Suddenly adding 100 or so pounds to someone's deadlift in the middle of the lift is a great way to totally ruin someone's back. That dude was a scumbag.
If I went to this same gym, this is how I would retaliate against the older dude:
1. Deadlift loudly with exaggerated grunts to attract his attention. Wink at him if he doesn't take the initial bait.
2. Stalk him and wait for him to do some kind of pressing motion, then go and push down the weights. This would be particularly amusing while he's on the bench press. Though, don't let it come to his throat.
3. Follow him around and do every lift he's doing. Ask how many sets he has left for every station he goes to.
You guys eat too much red meat!
Lay off the soy, son.