16 yr old Max Burgin runs European age 16 record of 1:47.36 to win Euro U18 gold - What's the US age 16 record?

Interview

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uoXxdWaDLZg

Great Britain is a 800-1500 factory, Coe, Cram, Elliott, Ovett etc. looks like they have another Great One, Coe has held the British Record long enough, I am sure he will be happy to see it broken, Coe is in his 60's and figure Burgin will break it probably in his early 20's so Coe may have his 800 British Record for 5-8 more years, and not be like Snell who has the New Zealand and Oceania Continent records in his 80's, Another goal would be Denmark's Wilson Kipketer European Record.

Ggvfgvfgvf wrote:

Wow, that would have given him the bronze at last year's world youth championship. The world youth best is 1:43.37, so he is less than 4 seconds away from the record. He has one more year to get that record.

Those 23 and 24 year old E. African teenagers are amazing, aren't they?

douglas burke wrote:

Great Britain is a 800-1500 factory, Coe, Cram, Elliott, Ovett etc. looks like they have another Great One, Coe has held the British Record long enough, I am sure he will be happy to see it broken, Coe is in his 60's and figure Burgin will break it probably in his early 20's so Coe may have his 800 British Record for 5-8 more years, and not be like Snell who has the New Zealand and Oceania Continent records in his 80's, Another goal would be Denmark's Wilson Kipketer European Record.

Lol

douglas burke wrote:

Great Britain is a 800-1500 factory, Coe, Cram, Elliott, Ovett etc. looks like they have another Great One, Coe has held the British Record long enough, I am sure he will be happy to see it broken, Coe is in his 60's and figure Burgin will break it probably in his early 20's so Coe may have his 800 British Record for 5-8 more years, and not be like Snell who has the New Zealand and Oceania Continent records in his 80's, Another goal would be Denmark's Wilson Kipketer European Record.

We must have lost so many potential middle-distance stars to football over the last decades. Harry Maguire who scored one of the goals against Sweden the other day was a talented 800m runner at school. George Mills, who won the 800m at the European Junior Championships two years ago but then got injured last year, is the son of former England footballer Danny Mills and wanted desperately to be a footballer but wasn't quite good enough.

rojo wrote:

Lydiard Cerutty wrote:

1:50.51 Howard Shepard II

That can't be correct.

I know that can't be right as Myles Marhsall (now at Harvard) ran 1:48.43 at age 16.

Bell Gardens wrote:

Michael Granville?

Michael Granviile ran 1:47.96 at age 17 at Arcadia and 1:46.45 at age 18.

Rule 261.1.f:

"An American Youth Athletics Record, which shall be the best performance made by an American citizen or relay team composed entirely of U.S. citizens in Youth Athletics meets sanctioned by USATF. The record application must include the athlete's current USATF membership number."

Typical LRC response: Look at that acne. Obvious steroid user.

Reality check: Oh, wait, he's 16 years old.

Now you are starting to use your brain.

It's much more likely that talented runners pursued other, much higher paying and more prestigious sports in the UK (football, cricket, tennis etc) rather than they were upset that Kenyans are fast and so quit.

We definitely could have more talented runners like Burgin if more children cared about athletics in the UK.

Just like they do in Kenya and Jamaica. Interesting...

Er... wrote:

I don't understand why people post unfounded predictions with undeserved certainty like this. He's a remarkable athlete who turned in a magnificent performance. But no juggling of pace, competition, or conditions can guarantee "1:46 or even faster." That's nonsense. The adrenaline of the championship race may have pushed him to his ideal effort at his current fitness. Getting in tough with faster senior runners may leave him flat and stale, struggling to match his previous effort. Let him develop on his own schedule.

[quote]Coevett wrote:

He turned 16 only seven weeks ago as well. Will surely run 1:46 or even faster if he races in a couple of senior events this season.

[quote]rojo wrote:

It is called a conversation. It happens in sports. Someone has a great performance and fans start talking what-ifs.

Get over it.

Ggvfgvfgvf wrote:

Wow, that would have given him the bronze at last year's world youth championship. The world youth best is 1:43.37, so he is less than 4 seconds away from the record. He has one more year to get that record.

lol, Yes the famous 2011 WYC 800, with all those "youths". Wedding rings, receding hairlines, throat slit gestures...Ah, those were the days.

Max also ran a 3:47 1500m this week, bettering his pb I think by over 5 seconds.

That means GB has two 16 year olds who have ran 3:46 and 3:47 this season (Max Burgin and Kane Elliott).

ex-runner wrote:

We definitely could have more talented runners like Burgin if more children cared about athletics in the UK.

Just like they do in Kenya and Jamaica. Interesting...

What's cared about in Kenya is falsifying records so 30 year olds can compete in U20 and U18 competitions.

Just a note for the record, Max won the English National 800m champs this week in a new champs record time of 1:49:21 in appalling conditions (many runners several seconds off their best).

ex-runner wrote:

Now you are starting to use your brain.

It's much more likely that talented runners pursued other, much higher paying and more prestigious sports in the UK (football, cricket, tennis etc) rather than they were upset that Kenyans are fast and so quit.

We definitely could have more talented runners like Burgin if more children cared about athletics in the UK.

Just like they do in Kenya and Jamaica. Interesting...

The english football team nowadays is nearly half caribbean.

It doesn't seem to prevent them producing relatively fast sprinters, like we've seen at the last Euros Champs, despite being less than 2% of the total British population.

Is there less overlap between short sprinting & football and middle distance running & football ?

Coevett wrote:

Also, as I posted the other day but it didn't get much attention, Scotlands 16 year old Kane Elliott won the 1500m, also in a championship record (3:55). He has already run a 3:46 this season (at 16!).

Middle-distance running is coming home.

https://www.scottishathletics.org.uk/gyor-gold-kane/

Looks 25 to me.

These Kenyan age cheats! Oh wait...

And if you want an idea of Max's impressive speed, this is him running leg 3 of the 4x400m at the UK School Games this weekend. Pick it up on the timeline at 3:10:40 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQqTBj2lYLc&feature=share

Was super impressive and 47.99 on my hand timing from the commentating box!

Miller turned 16 over the summer. Not sure which month exactly.

Halifax wrote:

And if you want an idea of Max's impressive speed, this is him running leg 3 of the 4x400m at the UK School Games this weekend. Pick it up on the timeline at 3:10:40

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQqTBj2lYLc&feature=share

Impressive speed indeed. Commentator had him at 47.9. That kind of speed would put him in top 2 or 3 ranked u18 400m runners in the UK. Just turned 16 at the start of this summer and he's ran 1:47 for 800m (largely solo ran it), 3:47 for 1500m (I think in his only 1500 race this season) and now a 47.9 400m relay leg.

You'd think he might be in contention for the GB team for the World Championships next summer, although the 800m is getting more and more stacked in this country. I guess him and his father will probably have the world u18 championships as their goal next year. But at this rate, he could actually be a medal prospect for Tokyo at only 18.