If Kenya gets banned...who are your Gold medal tips for Tokyo?

Coevett wrote:

It's looking inevitable that Kenya will be banned by the time Tokyo comes around. Assuming this happens, who are your picks for gold medals at this point?

It's still two years away, but my favourites for Gold in the men's middle and long would be :

800m : Kyle Langford

1500m : Jakob Ingebrigsten

5000m : Jakob Ingebrigsten

10000 : Alex Yee

Marathon : Galen Rupp

3000m Steeple : Evan Jager

Also, there's a good chance Kenyan times will continue to drop dramatically over the next two years with increased testing and the threat of a federation suspension, so these could be favourites for gold even if Kenya is given another chance.

So, basically, if Kenya gets a ban, it’s an all white winning field?

You’re just a nasty piece of work. The most racist poster on these boards.

What's up with this? wrote:

vivalarepublica wrote:

You're a borderline white supremicist troll that should be banned.

Are you a moderator?

I KO you and take your man. You fagtard.

? Poor, pathetic Coevett grasping at straws clinging on to a fantasy of Kenya being banned. Get this straight: WILL.NEVER.HAPPEN. Now if Kenya, for some reason, opted to boycott Tokyo. The medals would be shared between Ethiopia, other Eastern and Northern African countries and expatriated Kenyans running in Turkish, Qatari, Bahraini and American vests. There's no way in the world for Britain to win and that makes me so happy. I love ❤️ ? ? ? ? Athletics.

Kenya will become even more important as it is being set up to be the first African country to host the World Championships. The haters will set themselves alight and I will live off the schadenfreude for years.

KO YOUR FAT HEAD wrote:

What's up with this? wrote:

Are you a moderator?

I KO you and take your man. You fagtard.

You certainly wouldn't ko me, and stop posting under 7 different usernames in order to decieve people into thinking there is more than one raving extreme left Marxist basement dwelling permanent adolescent SJW here.

Lol. I would love to wind you up for my own entertainment because it's so easy, but that would be a waste of time.

El Keniano wrote:

? Poor, pathetic Coevett grasping at straws clinging on to a fantasy of Kenya being banned. Get this straight: WILL.NEVER.HAPPEN. Now if Kenya, for some reason, opted to boycott Tokyo. The medals would be shared between Ethiopia, other Eastern and Northern African countries and expatriated Kenyans running in Turkish, Qatari, Bahraini and American vests. There's no way in the world for Britain to win and that makes me so happy. I love ❤️ ? ? ? ? Athletics.

Kenya will become even more important as it is being set up to be the first African country to host the World Championships. The haters will set themselves alight and I will live off the schadenfreude for years.

El Keniano wrote:

? Poor, pathetic Coevett grasping at straws clinging on to a fantasy of Kenya being banned. Get this straight: WILL.NEVER.HAPPEN. Now if Kenya, for some reason, opted to boycott Tokyo. The medals would be shared between Ethiopia, other Eastern and Northern African countries and expatriated Kenyans running in Turkish, Qatari, Bahraini and American vests. There's no way in the world for Britain to win and that makes me so happy. I love ❤️ ? ? ? ? Athletics.

Kenya will become even more important as it is being set up to be the first African country to host the World Championships. The haters will set themselves alight and I will live off the schadenfreude for years.

Come on, man. Morocco and perhaps South Africa would get the Champs ahead of Kenya. Morocco has a Diamond League meet and South Africa has an active track circuit. I would venture to say that Morocco has a better chance than South Africa, considering the issues with government corruption and economic stagnation in South Africa.

Either way, both would be gorgeous places to visit.

Um... ever heard of Jordan Hasay.

Coevett wrote:

KO YOUR FAT HEAD wrote:

I KO you and take your man. You fagtard.

You certainly wouldn't ko me, and stop posting under 7 different usernames in order to decieve people into thinking there is more than one raving extreme left Marxist basement dwelling permanent adolescent SJW here.

Which poster are you even talking to, you lunatic?

Coevett wrote:

It's looking inevitable that Kenya will be banned by the time Tokyo comes around. Assuming this happens, who are your picks for gold medals at this point?

It's still two years away, but my favourites for Gold in the men's middle and long would be :

800m : Kyle Langford

1500m : Jakob Ingebrigsten

5000m : Jakob Ingebrigsten

10000 : Alex Yee

Marathon : Galen Rupp

3000m Steeple : Evan Jager

Also, there's a good chance Kenyan times will continue to drop dramatically over the next two years with increased testing and the threat of a federation suspension, so these could be favourites for gold even if Kenya is given another chance.

As a preface, I personally do not care that there are drugs in the sport, and would be perfectly fine letting the El Guerrouj's and Bekele's of the world dominate. The technology, resources, and efforts made to actually deal with doping are so pitifully ineffective that the rest of the field would be better off just drugging up rather than waiting for the WADA to deal with it.

That being said:

1) Kyle Langford has a PR that is nowhere near what will be necessary to medal in the 800m. He couldn't even win the Commonwealth games. This is the most nonsensical of everyone you have listed. Yee is also terrible compared to his competition, and doesn't have a prayer, given that 10000m championships are almost always tactical.

2) You talk about doping in Kenya, and seem to ignore that two individuals on your list, Rupp and Jager, are classified as "likely doping" based on leaked documents (the same documents that implicated many Kenyans like Kiprop, Kiplagat, Mutai, etc.).

3) You also ignore that one individual on your list, Jakob Ingebrigtsen, also has a brother who is implicated in the leaked ABP documents. Putting it bluntly, being the sibling of, and having trained your whole life with a suspected doper is more suspicious alone than even an association with Jama Aden.

In the event that Kenya is banned, only Rupp and Jager have realistic chances of victory. Every other runner you have up there is garbage compared to their top Non-Kenyan competition.

[quote]Coevett wrote:

3000m Steeple : Evan Jager

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suspicious passport. likely doping.

1500m: soren knudsen

IF Kenya stays home, there's absolutely zero chance Jakob will be able to beat Sebastian Coe. Coe 1500 AND 5K.

Unless you believe Jakob has been doping since he was 10, there is nothing that points to doping in his times.

Nice trolling. But Kenya will not get banned. This poor troll cannot separate his fantasies from reality. :)

Yes Asbel Kiprop doped. But even if he did not dope, I still think he or another Kenyan would have won the world championship gold medals.

Kenyans are natural winners. They have been winning since the 1950s. The only times when they lost was during the 1970s and 1980s (blood doping)

And during the EPO era (1996-2004).

IN fact I don't think Kiprop will be banned. There are far too many things that went wrong with his test. Somebody dropped the ball big time. So badly that if Kiprop takes his case to the CAS, he will win. Maybe that's why they were asking Kiprop to plead guilty in exchange for an ambassadorship.

Coevett wrote:

It's looking inevitable that Kenya will be banned by the time Tokyo comes around. Assuming this happens, who are your picks for gold medals at this point?

It's still two years away, but my favourites for Gold in the men's middle and long would be :

800m : Kyle Langford

1500m : Jakob Ingebrigsten

5000m : Jakob Ingebrigsten

10000 : Alex Yee

Marathon : Galen Rupp

3000m Steeple : Evan Jager

Also, there's a good chance Kenyan times will continue to drop dramatically over the next two years with increased testing and the threat of a federation suspension, so these could be favourites for gold even if Kenya is given another chance.

Are the 1500m and 5000m Olympic heats and finals scheduled far enough apart in the Olympics for it to be feasible for a double winner?

Morocco held a Diamond League at an empty stadium. Kenya hosting the World Youth championships was arguably much more successful.

800m: Nijel Amos

1500m: Jakob Ingebritsen

3000mSC: Evan Jager

5000m: Muktar Edris

10000m: Joshua Cheptegei

Marathon: Sondre Nordstad Moen

And if Kenyans aren't banned:

800m: Wyclife Kinyamal

1500m: Timothy Cheruiyot

3000mSC: Conseslus Kipruto

5000m: Muktar Edris

10000m: Joshua Cheptegei

Marathon: Geoffrey Kamworor

Then all the Qataris and Bahrainis will win everything.

Oh wait, they're actually all Kenyan-born.