Scorpion_runner wrote:
So after watching molly's interview, she stated that she was wearing a RAIN COAT, so those were nike rain coats that the runners were wearing?
Who instructed them to do that? The trainers, or equipment managers?
Nike. Marketing purposes. Kirui's jacket/raincoat was a Nike brand.
Karl Hungus wrote:
I'd gladly buy one based on Desi's performance. The Nike jacket I have kind of sucks.
Karl, I've got a blue Nike jacket which looks great but 4 weeks ago it literally p!ssed with rain and I looked down, rolled back my sleeve and my gps had stopped working. Thanks Nike, time for a new jacket and watch. Bloody nuisance.
compreezy wrote:
Scorpion_runner wrote:
So after watching molly's interview, she stated that she was wearing a RAIN COAT, so those were nike rain coats that the runners were wearing?
Who instructed them to do that? The trainers, or equipment managers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNb0zYf6pWwMolly Huddle runs for Saucony you dumb@ss.
You don't say. Everyone knows that she runs for Saucony. But thanks for pointing that out, and thank you for the name calling. Anyway, the point is that runners were out their running in Rain Coats by their sponsors.
Scorpion_runner wrote:
compreezy wrote:
Molly Huddle runs for Saucony you dumb@ss.
You don't say. Everyone knows that she runs for Saucony. But thanks for pointing that out, and thank you for the name calling. Anyway, the point is that runners were out their running in Rain Coats by their sponsors.
"So after watching molly's interview, she stated that she was wearing a RAIN COAT, so those were nike rain coats that the runners were wearing?"
You either didn't realize that she doesn't run for Nike or you are fallaciously assuming that because a Saucony athlete is wearing a rain coat then all Nike runners must be wearing rain coats, too. I'm not sure which is worse. You are a dumb@ss, either way.
compreezy wrote:
Scorpion_runner wrote:
You don't say. Everyone knows that she runs for Saucony. But thanks for pointing that out, and thank you for the name calling. Anyway, the point is that runners were out their running in Rain Coats by their sponsors.
"So after watching molly's interview, she stated that she was wearing a RAIN COAT, so those were nike rain coats that the runners were wearing?"
You either didn't realize that she doesn't run for Nike or you are fallaciously assuming that because a Saucony athlete is wearing a rain coat then all Nike runners must be wearing rain coats, too. I'm not sure which is worse. You are a dumb@ss, either way.
I guess you feel like you have won something. is there anything else you would like to add?
If not, then move aside so the that the SUBJECT of this thread can continue to be discussed.
Kiri's jacket was definitely a drag on his running, but especially in the latter stages I could sense that he was afraid to take it off for fear of hypothermia. A real double-bind there. Meanwhile Kawauchi in a singlet and arm sleeves was just punching through the wind like a rotohammer.
And for the record, Edna and Shalane were clearly wearing some type of Nike shell rain coats. Those clearly were not windbreakers or oversized windbreakers.
I'll add that you should think more before posting. In general. Carry on!
chatham09 wrote:
Shoebacca wrote:
I used to run in a Mountain Hardware waterproof jacket that still had some adjustable zip areas that could allow air in if needed. The thing about waterproof jackets is that if they don't let water in, it also means they don't let sweat out. Very hard to find an ideal waterproof running jacket.
Those Nike parachutes are a joke, though. I agree that they had all week to prepare for this weather clothing-wise.
Isn't Gortex supposed to be both breathable and waterproof? I thought that was its claim to fame and also why it is usually on the expensive side.
Breathable to an extent. The newer single layer offerings (Arcteryx Norvan Sl for instance) are a heck of a lot better than the 2 and 3 layer shells out there.
Did nike not test these jackets before having athletes they pay a lot of money wear them? I've been led to believe that elites run in shoes and gear they'r'e sponsored to run in and any other brand would work just as well. Is letsrun saying that clothes cause a difference?
Kvothe wrote:
Did nike not test these jackets before having athletes they pay a lot of money wear them? I've been led to believe that elites run in shoes and gear they'r'e sponsored to run in and any other brand would work just as well. Is letsrun saying that clothes cause a difference?
Clearly next year they'll bring a VaporFly rain jacket to market next year.
Maybe part of the company's goal of goingSub 2:10 next year.
A shell will not keep you warm and will flap around no matter what.
Kvothe wrote:
Did nike not test these jackets before having athletes they pay a lot of money wear them? I've been led to believe that elites run in shoes and gear they'r'e sponsored to run in and any other brand would work just as well. Is letsrun saying that clothes cause a difference?
I think it did to a certain extent. You could see the parachute effect on lot of their runners, especially Edna, Shalane, and Kirui.
Was it the jacket, as in material, or was it that the jackets were just too damn big, allowing too much wind inside?
Edna's jacket looked like something out of eddie bauer.
Desi's jacket was more form fitting, and there wasno puffiness to it, so she was little bit more aerodynamic. Also, she wasn't that wet. Now, It didn't retain any heat for her, because she was shivering like crazy at the end of the race. So I know she was cold as hell.
Kirui looked as if he was sprayed with a fire hose.
I personally feel that brooks and asics make the best windbreakers...more of an athletic fit with solid materials, and really light weight.
Scorpion_runner wrote:
Kvothe wrote:
Did nike not test these jackets before having athletes they pay a lot of money wear them? I've been led to believe that elites run in shoes and gear they'r'e sponsored to run in and any other brand would work just as well. Is letsrun saying that clothes cause a difference?
I think it did to a certain extent. You could see the parachute effect on lot of their runners, especially Edna, Shalane, and Kirui.
Was it the jacket, as in material, or was it that the jackets were just too damn big, allowing too much wind inside?
Edna's jacket looked like something out of eddie bauer.
Desi's jacket was more form fitting, and there wasno puffiness to it, so she was little bit more aerodynamic. Also, she wasn't that wet. Now, It didn't retain any heat for her, because she was shivering like crazy at the end of the race. So I know she was cold as hell.
Kirui looked as if he was sprayed with a fire hose.
I personally feel that brooks and asics make the best windbreakers...more of an athletic fit with solid materials, and really light weight.
And Rupp looked like an old lesbian with a penchant for gardening.
Swedish brand Craft has the best windbreakers.
Period.
I have some experience with sewing and I can't wrap my head around some of the running clothing and designs. Why all the extra fabric? The singlets are to long and the arms are jackets are sized for a lifter.
These guys and gals weigh 100-130 pounds I don't understand why no one from Nike shows up with a sewing machine and modifys the kits before the race.
Masterblaster13 3 wrote:
I have some experience with sewing and I can't wrap my head around some of the running clothing and designs. Why all the extra fabric? The singlets are to long and the arms are jackets are sized for a lifter.
These guys and gals weigh 100-130 pounds I don't understand why no one from Nike shows up with a sewing machine and modifys the kits before the race.
You are spot on. That description describes everything.
Desi had the perfect jacket, and she was just pushing along with no extra resistance, and didn't even appear to be wet.
Yuki wore the minimum and just ran faster when he needed to warm up.
I didn't know nike made raincoats......she never had a chance in that
http://cdn.letsrun.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Flanagan_ShalaneWelles-Boston18.jpg
If we learned anything from cycling it's that drag is a huge determinant of your time.
Yesterday the elites were putting in an effort level of 12mph into 25-30mph winds for a net resistance of around 40mph
Neither Desi or Yuki made it any worse with their kit choices.
