Rojo crosses the line on Hasay thread

I’m never on rojo’s side but I am here.

As professional athletes, they are all open to whatever insults or compliments people want to say. Watch any sport and you’ll hear the commentators talk some bad garbage about the athletes. Heck, watch a European track meet with that funny British announcer and he smashes runners during the meet for poor performances or dumb strategies all day.

Get over it. I say if rojo wants to badmouth a professional athlete then let him do so. Would you say Rojo crossed the line if he posted the funny memes of Lebron? Nope, you wouldn’t.

Perhaps you’re sexist and you think women can’t handle some professional insults while men can.

Ever watched “Mean Tweets”???

Take a look and get back to us.

In the meantime, say what you want Rojo.

I think the argument here is that there is that there is a difference between Skip Bayless/Dan LeBatard and actual sports journalists. The Brojos seem to be somewhere in between, which is fine. I don't think they necessarily need to be unbiased - they built this site from the ground up, and part of the charm of the site is its running engagement with memes and jokes. It's theirs to do with it what they choose.

Can Salazar injure Rupp before race time?

He's got a few hours.

Rojo it is fairly easy to work out who started this thread, just look at post times.

Serious question:

Rojo, have you ever held a job that you were qualified for?

Calling other people yuppies, lol.

Whoa whoa, you tried to defend yourself in the other thread by claiming you didn't even know what the crying Jordan meme meant and asking for clarification. Now you acknowledge you know it has been around for years. That's fishy.

I didn’t see any of you hypocrites opening his mouth demanding an apology when thounda of insults were directed to african runners...

Hypocrisy wrote:

I didn’t see any of you hypocrites opening his mouth demanding an apology when thounda of insults were directed to african runners...

+1

Did you read the quote, Rojo? 1: She said her foot felt fine. A MRI revealed a stress reaction. 2: It's really funny that you think she, Alberto, or anyone else owes you an explanation lol

Yep. They remind me of HS kids running the local sports newspaper. This site will be around for, maybe, 2 more years...it's gotten much worse in the last few years, and folks are just waiting for an alternative. Some of the college kids need to start something up with their free time.

stumbler wrote:

The problem is that you periodically pretend to be journalists when it suits your purposes. If you want to act like the morons, posting stupid, juvenile memes on the messageboard, go ahead. But you should never be granted a press pass to any event, and certainly have no right to complain if Hasay, Salazar, or anyone else related to elite athletics refuses to give you an interview. The idiots that call in to talk radio programs have a right to their opinions, but nobody respects them and the New England Patriots certainly aren't letting them into the locker room and letting them interview Tom Brady. Either learn what a journalist does and follow that path, or don't.

rojo wrote:

The fact that someone pulls out about 15 hours before a marathon is held in some of the most horrific conditions in history is worthy of a "Not Hasay certified comment."

I thought the poster who first said Hasay had pulled out of the half...got a bit of abuse for trolling....then turned out to be right....also said she wouldn't run Boston but that would be announced closer to the race. Maybe I imagined it or I'm attributing separate posts to the same poster, but if that's what that poster said at the time then today's weather looks irrelevant,

Ridiculous. Grow up.

There was nothing untoward. If anything, criticism here of a Nike athlete increases the credibility of this site.

I'm with Rojo on this one. My first thought was, "Not Hasay certified!"

The fact is they lied through their teeth all weekend about her health. If you think that's okay, then that says something about the extent to which you accept that elite athletes are always going to lie about their health when contracted for a big marathon. I get that they want to be as involved in the press as they can be so it helps their career, but it doesn't change the fact that they knew there could be a health issue and avoided being transparent about it. So either they are liars or they ducked the race. Either way it doesn't make me happy with team Hasay today.

There’s nothing inherently wrong with posting a derisive meme. The problem is that rojo is ostensibly a “professional” and a “journalist”. His conduct is consistently far, far away from what would be acceptable for someone who aspires to those titles. It’s just a really bad look, and for the millionth time, rojo tries to defend his moronic conduct rather than either owning up to being a trashy troll or growing up and actually starting to act like a pro.

Shameful day on these boards wrote:

Rojo’s glee and bashing of Hasay is despicable. He no longer has credibility as a journalist. And he can no longer say he doesn’t have an extreme bias against Nike and NOP.

Anyone who feels pride and joy in one of our top athletes (and good role model) coming down with serious injury is just a lousy human being.

Anyone starting a thread to rant like this I would think would back it up with examples of "glee and bashing of Hasay" done by Rojo.

I had to think about this a while to decide which side I was on in this issue. I am not a fan of misrepresentation of any sort. It happens in football, basketball, etc. as almost a form of gamesmanship However, I made my decision based on evidence, the thread, the history of degeneration of values on this site, and who made a stronger case. I think the OP is correct here. To me, this letsrun.com has rapidly drifted into Perez Hilton territory. In other words, people decide it may be journalism, but only Hilton's friends and the guilty pleasure niche market validates Hilton. It's similar here. I like the comparison from a later poster to a fraternity, as well, as that mentality has taken over here. Many defending the3 Johnsons are simply friends of the Johnsons. Well, it's great to have your friends defend you, but there exists that possibility that you and your friends could be wrong. It is not legitimate journalism, but more like paparazzi when letsrun has to "sneak" interviews and then takes a biased side in their portrayal of the news. In true journalism, you would have a thread and you would quote supporters and naysayers. You would deliver the news and let the readers decide and debate. However, it becomes fake news at best when you slant the news before you actually give facts. The term "yellow journalism" is very appropriate here. It then becomes worse when you, as the moderators, give more opinion at large than even your posters do. How does this relate to Hasay? Until you have a valid source that has a close enough affiliation with the Nike Oregon Project, Ms. Hasay or associates of Ms. Hasay close enough to be enabled to answer for her, you really do cross a dangerous line, especially since you bring in money from your site from sponsors. Now I am honest with myself and you and others. I have stepped in against this site on racial issues when this place became increasingly racist. I have addressed sexism when this place became increasingly sexist. I am addressing ethics now that this place has become unethical, with your "journalism" at the forefront. I highly recommend that you both take a journalism class to refresh your efforts and that you listen to many of your naysayers here. Many are correct. Listening to friends is easy. Listening to the truth is difficult. Balancing them is wise. I trust you'll make the wise choice. Mike

Shameful day on these boards wrote:

Rojo’s glee and bashing of Hasay is despicable. He no longer has credibility as a journalist. And he can no longer say he doesn’t have an extreme bias against Nike and NOP.

Anyone who feels pride and joy in one of our top athletes (and good role model) coming down with serious injury is just a lousy human being.

It is an open question in the world of sports journalism whether letsrun's coverage of anti-doping is to be taken seriously or not. At times, letsrun has been a ground breaker in its reporting of anti-doping issues, like exposing banned coaches showing up at Nike VIP areas. At other times, it is not clear whether letsrun is being an objective sport journalism outlet or whether they want to be buddies with the anti-Nike crowd and will always throw darts at NOP and Nike sponsored athletes regardless of whether there is any objective journalistic basis for it (badgering Justin Gatlin on doping violations years after the fact). If letsrun wants to have it both ways (objective sports journalists and sports radio call in show/twitter troll), then people will always be able to point to the sports radio side and call into question the journalistic side. Then, it will be fair game to debate whether letsrun's reporting is closer to a sports version of Brietbart or Info Wars versus Reuters or AP.

Nice post. Thoughtful - which is not always the case on here - and hopefully received by the founders.

I was a bit taken aback by this thread and others on the subject. I've never actually considered this site to be one based upon any journalistic values at all, but rather a collection of thoughts, links to real stories and message boards. This is fine, I guess. I'm a "runner" and have long looked for sites that provide some decent content. I say I'm a "runner", in quotation marks, because I'm slow now and generally feel very unwelcome on these boards. I believe maybe 20% of the people that post - I find runners to be nice in general, so the snobbery, nastiness and other worse traits displayed smack of a different of set people/values. The founders have created the forum for this, and I think it will ultimately be their downfall, with one caveat - someone needs to create something better. I mean...this site is awful, just from a design standpoint alone...but is there anything else out there? The moment there is, I'll certainly stop visiting.

The biggest baby in all of this is you, Rojo. You do realize that taking a shot at Jordan Hasay will get you grilled by her fan base, right? Or do you think you live in a bubble, where all people LOL at Jordan memes.... in 2018.

C'mon man, if you can't take it, don't dish it. And anytime you go for Jordan Hasay (who has the biggest fan base), be prepared to be run'd off the road bud. Even on your own website.

It has nothing to do with "professional athletes" or anything in that nature, it's the same among everyone. Take shots, fans come back at you heated. Ask Stephen A Smith if everyone gives him a pass.