YARED NUGUSE is the NEXT CHESEREK - keep an eye on him

Jaundiced View wrote:

orthodontist wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ouZnmcWfPA

He looks at least 20 years old in that interview. Still younger than Ches was as HS senior (21 or 22 as a senior). You guys fall over each other, your virtue signaling via fawning over the imports.

Did you listen to him speak? Definitely doesn't sound that old...I think you're biases are showing just a tad.

I am Tim Holman and was his Coach in High School (I don't hide behind usernames). He was born in the USA to parents who were both naturalized refugees from Ethiopia. He started running midway through his freshman year because I asked him to, and I had to convince his parents that running wouldn't get in the way of his academics. He is a brilliant kid and was part of the Math, Science, Technology Magnet at the best HS in Kentucky where he was a stellar student. He was recruited by Louisville, Cincinnati, Oklahoma State and ND but is a low profile, soft spoken kid who doesn't like a lot of attention. He made the ACC Academic All-American Team while majoring in Molecular Biology. He is admired by his teammates and opponents alike and is nothing but humble and hard working. He is the same age as any other college freshman but has only been running for about four years (he did bowl some...).

It is funny how the same story plays out. Guy with brown skin has success, and it has to be because he cheated, was born somewhere else, or got special favors. Maybe it is just because he works a hell of lot harder than you do.

And he does run funny when he is running slowly for the local TV cameras. Looks a lot better when he's dropping a 3:56.9 1600 split...

Coach Holman, thanks for the info about Yared.

Thank you also for confirming that his mechanics are not impressive when running slowly. I also agree that his mechanics improve when running fast.

Could you tell us about Yared's basic speed, over 400/800, for example, and also where you think he will be, time wise in 2-4 years from now?

What do you predict for his future ?

The Goose is Loose

Ghost1 wrote:

Coach Holman, thanks for the info about Yared.

Thank you also for confirming that his mechanics are not impressive when running slowly. I also agree that his mechanics improve when running fast.

Could you tell us about Yared's basic speed, over 400/800, for example, and also where you think he will be, time wise in 2-4 years from now?

What do you predict for his future ?

Yared had low iron his junior year so I cranked back his mileage and started running him in more middle distance stuff. It was a happy accident because it turned out that speed development let us know that he had a lot more speed than we initially thought. He's always had a nasty kick, but he split some really fast stuff by the time he was a senior in 4x400s (High 48) and 4x800s (1:51). It is always hard to tell where a kid will end up but Yared certainly has the work ethic and coachability that, coupled with serious talent, bodes well for future success. He still needs to learn more about racing, especially in traffic, and that comes with experience. He ran his 4:06 in high school solo on a cold, rainy day and he rarely was "racing" more than a single kid at any meet (with the exception of the Dream Mile). I am excited to see what he can do, but because he only started running four years ago, his mileage was always kept pretty low - I knew that ramping up to collegiate level distances and having others to train with on a daily basis would result in some fast times. Bottom line, the kid is a racer and a fighter and I wouldn't bet against him from here on out...

The interview stated that he walked on. Why no scholarship? Normally a 4:06 would get at least 1/4 at a top running school.

Scholarship wrote:

The interview stated that he walked on. Why no scholarship? Normally a 4:06 would get at least 1/4 at a top running school.

I don't know the specifics but Yared had multiple opportunities at many D1 colleges both athletically and academically. ND was the best fit for him.

Thank you for the info, sir! Excited to see how Yared develops his talent.

Scholarship wrote:

The interview stated that he walked on. Why no scholarship? Normally a 4:06 would get at least 1/4 at a top running school.

As an ND alum it’s good to see a potential star for the future on our squad. I was impressed and excited for these guys.

I will say, however, that the coach publicizing how much/little you are paying kids was not cool. Yared clearly looked uncomfortable.

Coach Holman, thanks for that info.

So basically his speed is 49.00/1.51 for 400/800.

This might point Yared more towards 5000/10,000, in future.

How fast were Mo Farah and Mo Ahmed at the same age?, although this comparison is not entirely fair, as Yared is more new to running compared to those two stars.

I have never seen guys and a coach talk so openly about scholarships. One guy brags about getting $70k, one was a manager, and one is a walk-on. At least it finally confirms to this community that a 4:06 HS runner can be a walk-on. We have this debate monthly with many thinking that if you run 4:15, every school in the country finds money for you. This kid just elevated himself into the elite status but ND is already heavily invested in next year’s class while he is already there and happily running great. I have had several runners go to similar schools starting out as 4:10 guys with promises that the money will come after they score. Three years later when they are getting 3 and 4 at conference, no change in scholarship. I guess the logic is that the runners had to budget for it regardless if they improved or not. Nuguse is obviously going to be putting up significant points at the conference meet for the next 3 years and will be contributin at the national level again also.

Glad to see that Yared's getting some props. Seems like a nice young man and an incredible talent. I wouldn't go so far as Cheserek, but I definitely seem his as a multiple time AA and maybe even a national champ. I just don't know what race--mile / 1500, 3K, 5K? His DMR split knocked about 10 secs off his mile PR--not bad for 1 year of collegiate training.

If ND doesn't redshirt incoming their freshman and stays healthy, they have the potential to make Nats for the first time in years and potentially win ACCs given VA, 'Cuse and VA Tech lose some of their low sticks.

And, it does show that ND can develop talent, when they actually go through the trouble of recruiting (which they haven't done prior to the last year's class / this year's incoming class)!

Go Irish!

Ghost1 wrote:

Coach Holman, thanks for that info.

So basically his speed is 49.00/1.51 for 400/800.

This might point Yared more towards 5000/10,000, in future.

How fast were Mo Farah and Mo Ahmed at the same age?, although this comparison is not entirely fair, as Yared is more new to running compared to those two stars.

Ran a 1:48 in the 4X8 at Penn Relays

PrZ wrote:

Predictor wrote:

I will give him a lifetime PR of 3:57 indoor mile and 3:40 outdoor 1500. Great times and possibly placing at nationals but not the king.

Nobody’s gonna give him anything cause he hasn’t run those times.

Well, he soloed 3:57 at the ACCs, so the 3:57 is taken care of already as a sophomore.

Btw his last name, "Nuguse" (in amharic), translates to "King." #JustSayin.

Ive never thought he looks old for his age. He seems like a nerdy molecular biology type. Also seems humble.

I think it is very strange that people refer to him as a walk on. He is a financial aid kid that was recruited. The need based aid was just their method of paying for college. The term continues to be used by Carlson to try to insinuate that he wasn’t recruited. Just some kid that wandered on campus and Carlson magically made him a champion. Not exactly.

Notre Dame is doing well. I think it is unfair to say they aren’t. To the poster that said they are doing nothing, that is ridiculous. They won the ACC Xc championships. That is hardly nothing. The kids are still young. Give them time to develop. Not everyone develops as quickly as Yared.

With that being said, Carlson seems very full of himself in a not very confident way. Very awkward. Carlson, just keep working. You are doing well. Don’t be a tool. Do not keep calling Nuguse a walk on. It is so obviously your way of giving yourself a compliment and sounds so foolish to those that know. Those that know also recognize you are doing a good job so stop with the cringeworthy fake confidence.

Nuguse is going to be dominating the US 1500m for the next 8+ years. HIs kick is something else.

Tge kid is very good but probably was a walk-on because he wasnt anywhere near as good as a handful of other recruits over the past few years. Some guys have better HS PRs who are sitting on the sideline at ND either due to injuries or just not improving. Too many LR dopes think 4:10 gets full ride while 4:06 kids many times arent getting any athketic aid.

No comparison.

Cheserek won everything in sight during his NCAA career.

Granted there is much to do about his age, and rightly so. Nevertheless, Cheserek is light years a better athlete.

Ruman wrote:

Clearly this “kid” is doped like the rest of his fellow EPOpians. They stock it at the checkout in the supermarkets over there, like gum. Oliver Hoare is the clean champ, and a homegrown American to boot.

There we go again with the accusations ...I almost threw up reading this one.