I'll go out on a limb and pick Kipchoge.
Competitive marathons are good for the sport whether they are in London, Boston, or Eugene.
M.A.G.A.
I'll go out on a limb and pick Kipchoge.
Competitive marathons are good for the sport whether they are in London, Boston, or Eugene.
M.A.G.A.
Donut Dan wrote:
Rupp has no desire to be anything more than a second tier elite athlete. How can anyone who wants to be great and race against the greatest just pass in these opportunities time and time again.
It is because Coach Alberto knows that the result at London would be a complete disaster for his confidence.
Do you remember what happened the last time Sir Mo ran the London marathon?
Mo Farah was given the intravenous prescription drug/supplement before the 2014 London Marathon, in which he finished EIGHTH PLACE!
The doctor who gave double Olympic champion Mo Farah a controversial supplement has told MPs that he failed to properly document the treatment.
Dr Robin Chakraverty said the amount of L-carnitine was well within World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) limits.
Dr Chakraverty said the substance was given to help the Briton's performance.
He said he gave 13.5 millilitres of the legal supplement, below the maximum allowed of 50ml within six hours, by injection and not via drip.
Ed Warner, the UK Athletics (UKA) chairman, told MPs that not recording injections was "inexcusable" although Dr Chakraverty said record keeping had since improved.
The use of the substance, given to Farah in 2014, is being looked at by the US Anti-Doping Agency (Usada) - which has called it an infusion - to determine whether rules were broken.
The injection was made in consultation with Farah's American coach Alberto Salazar.
Warner said it was "disappointing" the injection had not been recorded at the time by the doctor.
At a meeting of the committee earlier this year, a doctor who received a 'mystery package' for cyclist Sir Bradley Wiggins in 2011 said he had no record of his medical treatment at the time.
Ex-Team Sky medic Dr Richard Freeman had a laptop containing medical records stolen in 2014, the committee was told in March.
Team Sky and British Cycling's record-keeping was questioned at the earlier hearing and when it was raised again on Wednesday, Warner replied: "Please don't tar us with the same brush".
He said UKA was keen to centralise its records and now handles all of Farah's medical care.
"There was a period of a few months in which we allowed Mo to go to Oregon and be treated by a local GP over in America, and we were observing his medical care from afar," said Warner.
An interim Usada report centres on claims a number of athletes at Salazar's Nike Oregon Project were given L-carnitine - some of which were "almost certainly" more than 50 mL and therefore doping violations.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/sports/nike-oregon-project-doping-allegations.htmlAnother former UKA doctor, Dr John Rogers, visited a training camp held in France in 2011.
He reported back some concerns about the side-effects of some of the supplements and the prescription drug calcitonin that Farah was taking, but stressed there were no worries that anything illegal may have been taking place.
An interim USADA report centres on claims a number of athletes at Salazar's Nike Oregon Project were given L-carnitine - some of which were "almost certainly" more than 50ml and therefore doping violations.
Another former UKA doctor, Dr John Rogers, visited a training camp held in France in 2011.
He reported back some concerns about the side-effects from the prescription drug calcitonin and massive amounts of Vitamin D that Farah was taking, but stressed there were no worries that anything ILLEGAL may have been taking place.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/39627807The 2014 London marathon was a complete disaster for Coach Alberto's confidence.
See. I'm always right. Like I've been saying for about a year now, London will be set up for an easy Farah win.
vivalarepublica wrote:
I thought this already was the expectation. Farah was confirmed, Kipchoge was confirmed, Bekele wasn't 100% confirmed but it was expected that he would go. I'm not surprised. I'm sure defending champ D. Wanjiru will be back. All they need is Kipsang, Kam, and the Great White Hope Sondre Moen to round it out for the best field of all time. And the Ruppster, of course, but he has other concerns in the springtime.
Kipsang is no longer necessary.
Letsrun mouth wrote:
See. I'm always right. Like I've been saying for about a year now, London will be set up for an easy Farah win.
Good one.
The GOAT Marathoner vs. the GOAT Distance Runner vs. potentially the next GOAT Distance Runner. I've never been so stoked for a race. Literally my three favorite runners are going to duke it out on the best marathon course. Come on Bekele, show them that you are a 2:03:03 guy and the second fastest of all time! And that you have the 10000 and 5000 WR's! This is going to be so amazing!
DNS , DNF, DNL (lose)
Chase pack wrote:
Like someone else said, it’s Kipchoge vs the clock.
To pull him along?
GNC intravenous L-carnitine supplement wrote:
Donut Dan wrote:
Rupp has no desire to be anything more than a second tier elite athlete. How can anyone who wants to be great and race against the greatest just pass in these opportunities time and time again.
It is because Coach Alberto knows that the result at London would be a complete disaster for his confidence.
Do you remember what happened the last time Sir Mo ran the London marathon?
Mo Farah was given the intravenous prescription drug/supplement before the 2014 London Marathon, in which he finished EIGHTH PLACE!
The doctor who gave double Olympic champion Mo Farah a controversial supplement has told MPs that he failed to properly document the treatment.
Dr Robin Chakraverty said the amount of L-carnitine was well within World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) limits.
Dr Chakraverty said the substance was given to help the Briton's performance.
He said he gave 13.5 millilitres of the legal supplement, below the maximum allowed of 50ml within six hours, by injection and not via drip.
Ed Warner, the UK Athletics (UKA) chairman, told MPs that not recording injections was "inexcusable" although Dr Chakraverty said record keeping had since improved.
The use of the substance, given to Farah in 2014, is being looked at by the US Anti-Doping Agency (Usada) - which has called it an infusion - to determine whether rules were broken.
The injection was made in consultation with Farah's American coach Alberto Salazar.
Warner said it was "disappointing" the injection had not been recorded at the time by the doctor.
At a meeting of the committee earlier this year, a doctor who received a 'mystery package' for cyclist Sir Bradley Wiggins in 2011 said he had no record of his medical treatment at the time.
Ex-Team Sky medic Dr Richard Freeman had a laptop containing medical records stolen in 2014, the committee was told in March.
Team Sky and British Cycling's record-keeping was questioned at the earlier hearing and when it was raised again on Wednesday, Warner replied: "Please don't tar us with the same brush".
He said UKA was keen to centralise its records and now handles all of Farah's medical care.
"There was a period of a few months in which we allowed Mo to go to Oregon and be treated by a local GP over in America, and we were observing his medical care from afar," said Warner.
An interim Usada report centres on claims a number of athletes at Salazar's Nike Oregon Project were given L-carnitine - some of which were "almost certainly" more than 50 mL and therefore doping violations.
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/08/sports/nike-oregon-project-doping-allegations.htmlAnother former UKA doctor, Dr John Rogers, visited a training camp held in France in 2011.
He reported back some concerns about the side-effects of some of the supplements and the prescription drug calcitonin that Farah was taking, but stressed there were no worries that anything illegal may have been taking place.
An interim USADA report centres on claims a number of athletes at Salazar's Nike Oregon Project were given L-carnitine - some of which were "almost certainly" more than 50ml and therefore doping violations.
Another former UKA doctor, Dr John Rogers, visited a training camp held in France in 2011.
He reported back some concerns about the side-effects from the prescription drug calcitonin and massive amounts of Vitamin D that Farah was taking, but stressed there were no worries that anything ILLEGAL may have been taking place.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/athletics/39627807The 2014 London marathon was a complete disaster for Coach Alberto's confidence.
'Almost certainly' over the limit...
Damning.
Chubby Bekele is finished. I don't expect anything good from him anymore.
Yes a good matchup but seems like we get something similar about every year but then doesn't live up to the hype. Does anyone think Kipchoge will not be the heavy favorite?
What do you think the optimal distance would be that would give each of them an equal shot? One hour run? 20 miles? I think either of those would be more compelling.
https://media.giphy.com/media/Pgy4Na8aRyBuE/giphy.gifMeh.. wrote:
Meh, Boston lineup is more interesting
If it rains in London or is wet forget about WR. The elites don't seem to run well in the wet.
EternalFury wrote:
Chubby Bekele is finished. I don't expect anything good from him anymore.
Instead, Bekele should stop running completely, balloon up to 200 lbs, and still beat Nick Symmonds in the Eugene marathon.
Are the Tokyo fields out yet? That could pull a few big guns away from London? It's sort of silly that we have the full Boston field, some names for London, but nothing on Tokyo which is a month from now.
I wish Bekele wins this race with a WR and Kipchoge have it first marathon loss . Remember how shocking it was when Bolt and Farah lost in WC london
It's going to be interesting. Boston is essentially an afterthought.
Meh.. wrote:
MuricaFYeah! wrote:
Haha yup, two of the greatest runners in history and Mo vs a 2.09 American and a 2nd tier African's who are basically the best of the rest outside of the big races (Berlin/London) to make Rupp's run look legit as they are WC medalists.
It's a bit like Tennis Olympic Champion bein better than the Grand Slam Winners.
Yeah, London. Lol. Boston was always THE marathon! London is a joke. All the top guys have always run Boston. It's just in the last few years Kipchoge and Bekele have decided to forego it only because they feel they need to own a WR. can't do that in Boston. I won't respect Bekele or Kipchoge as much until they win a Boston. That's that.
" All the top guys have always run Boston" Uh? Not recently. Boston is a good race for a guy like Rupp, just as it was for Alberto in early 1980's (also New York). Coach Alberto, undefeated in the marathon until he went to Europe to get creamed. At least Galen has a bronze in the Olympic Marathon, I give him that and respect him for that.
These days kenenisa is a less factor. kipchge is the real deal and he be the third person to win olympic successfully in tokyo
If Farah gets the British record (i.e. runs 2:07 or so) it will be presented as a massive success. Sub 2:06 would be huge. I don't think many people expect a win - Kipchoge is known to be a big deal even among casual fans in the UK.
