In a way this is a quintessential American shoe: it promises big benefits without having to do the work! Who wouldn't want that?
In a way this is a quintessential American shoe: it promises big benefits without having to do the work! Who wouldn't want that?
Pretzel Man wrote:
Serious. Please explain to me how a pair of sneakers can make you run faster ???
Here is a basic test. Go out and run a mile barefoot as fast as you can. The next day, do the same thing but with your favorite pair of running shoes? 100% chance your time is faster with shoes. So you're telling me that there is no difference among shoes and that one couldn't possibly be constructed with materials that would alter your stride and mechanics in such a way that wouldn't make you run faster? How did your favorite shoe make you faster than barefoot?
Another way to look at it is from the elite perspective. Let's assume you're a Nike sponsored athlete. You have a choice of what, about 10-15 racing flats that they make. You're going to choose the one that you run fastest in. Just looking at every major marathon in the last year, 99% of Nike athletes in the half and full marathons wore the 4%. They know that they are faster in them. They have tested them against all other options. I know this is hard to believe, but again, if you haven't ACTUALLY run in them, you have no clue how good they are.
anyone know how to use this nike plus app to reserve shoes? i just got the app and i dont see anything like that. do i need a higher run level or more nikefuel? this cult is confusing
I got them yesterday with a push notification from the Nike app (not Nike+). I downloaded the app previously and created an account with Nike. Then signed in on the computer, went to the vaporfly 4% page, and told it to send me a notification when they're in stock. Worked pretty well actually.
I have a half marathon in two weeks and still haven't been able to pick up a pair of these shoes and it's looking like I won't be able to. What's the best IN STOCK alternative to help me run my fastest? Or should I just wear my training shoes and subtract 4% off my time?
Nike may think their limited supply marketing strategy will bring in the profits, but for me personally they're just losing a sale.
Meh. Even if I subtract 4% from my marathon time, I'm still slow.
Jerry Shoemaker wrote:
Cheater Shoes
This is true. The IOC bans doping and should also outlaw shoes such as the Nike Vaporfly 4% that give the wearer an artificial advantage.
Boats against the current wrote:
Jerry Shoemaker wrote:
Cheater Shoes
This is true. The IOC bans doping and should also outlaw shoes such as the Nike Vaporfly 4% that give the wearer an artificial advantage.
Every some has an effect on economy. It's not that the vaporfly makes you 4% better than barefoot and every other shoe has no effect. There's a spectrum, and the vaporfly happens to be the current king. But although it wasn't as publicized, the Adios Boost was also proven to be more efficient than other shoes:
http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/19424280.2013.799566. Nobody freaked out about it though.
Hobbyjogger alert wrote:
Pretzel Man wrote:
Serious. Please explain to me how a pair of sneakers can make you run faster ???
Anyone who calls running shoes "sneakers" is not a real runner.
Beat me to it.
Half Marathon in 2 Weeks wrote:
I have a half marathon in two weeks and still haven't been able to pick up a pair of these shoes and it's looking like I won't be able to. What's the best IN STOCK alternative to help me run my fastest? Or should I just wear my training shoes and subtract 4% off my time?
Nike may think their limited supply marketing strategy will bring in the profits, but for me personally they're just losing a sale.
After all this time, are you still really this dumb? I apologize to be so harsh, but how many times does it need to be said that the 4% is in reference to economy for it to get through your thick skull? You're likely the same guy that I've seen whining about not wanting to pay more for them on eBay or whatever. You want something bad enough? There's always a way to make it happen. Be it shoes in stock or anything else in life, NO ONE OWES YOU ANYTHING.
Bag and baggage wrote:
Hobbyjogger alert wrote:
Anyone who calls running shoes "sneakers" is not a real runner.
Beat me to it.
More of a runner then you'll ever be, Dick.
Big difference being barefoot, I prefer to race in Ghosts and just find it hard to believe a pair of SNEAKERS can make that much of difference in time in a marathon.
Pretzel Man wrote:
Big difference being barefoot, I prefer to race in Ghosts and just find it hard to believe a pair of SNEAKERS can make that much of difference in time in a marathon.
Serious? Try racing a marathon in a 16oz shoe.
I went from a 225 guy to a 219 guy in the Vaporflys. I'm sold...
You look adopted wrote:
sdfasdfafdsdf wrote:
A sucker is born every minute. $250 for running shoes. LOL.
+1
Looks like a lot of people will pay good money to break 4 hours.
Work Commute Track Club wrote:
I went from a 225 guy to a 219 guy in the Vaporflys. I'm sold...
Okay I was looking for a example, like that thank you.
I think the Ghost are about 11oz. Is there something in the Vapor that gives more bounce ??
Pretzel Man wrote:
Work Commute Track Club wrote:
I went from a 225 guy to a 219 guy in the Vaporflys. I'm sold...
Okay I was looking for a example, like that thank you.
I think the Ghost are about 11oz. Is there something in the Vapor that gives more bounce ??
It’s both the spring and the rolling motion of the shoe. It helps most when you are tired as the shoe keeps throwing you forward.
Pretzel Man wrote:
Bag and baggage wrote:
Beat me to it.
More of a runner then you'll ever be, Dick.
Hahaha! Someone is butthurt because we pointed out the obvious to him: serious, competitive runners don´t call running shoes "sneakers". Now please go back to your brothers and sisters on Runner´s World.
Work Commute Track Club wrote:
Pretzel Man wrote:
Okay I was looking for a example, like that thank you.
I think the Ghost are about 11oz. Is there something in the Vapor that gives more bounce ??
It’s both the spring and the rolling motion of the shoe. It helps most when you are tired as the shoe keeps throwing you forward.
Thanks.
Hobbyjogger alert wrote:
Pretzel Man wrote:
More of a runner then you'll ever be, Dick.
Hahaha! Someone is butthurt because we pointed out the obvious to him: serious, competitive runners don´t call running shoes "sneakers". Now please go back to your brothers and sisters on Runner´s World.
"Serious, competitive, runner's" Classic.