Captain Corelli wrote:
why does he still live in Portland?
His wife has a job in Portland.
Levins is back with his college coach and it will be interesting to see if that leads to renewed success.
Captain Corelli wrote:
why does he still live in Portland?
His wife has a job in Portland.
Levins is back with his college coach and it will be interesting to see if that leads to renewed success.
Hardloper wrote:
Never Oprah wrote:
And the funny thing is that Flotrack made a series about him running 190 miles per week. They are so ignorant.
Ryan Hall also praised him and said that Cam was gonna do great things because of his ability to run 190 miles per week.
I can't believe how stupid some people are.
In 2012. He stopped running the mega miles several years before he stopped running fast so no you can't blame high mileage for his decline. He should go back to what worked back then.
I think those years of running mileage he did had a lasting effect on him. While he'll always be a decent runner, i don't see him performing up to his own standards in the future. I think he burned himself out too early and put a cap on his potential now. I hope I'm wrong though.
What would he have to run at Houston for you to think he might be back on track?
Riiiiiight, because high mileage is why all the runners in the 70s were so slow compared to now and why all the Kenyans and Ethiopians do so horribly nowAdays
Of course you can overtrain with high mileage but Levins was injured and cooked by more complex and thorough overtraining. When Salazar gets it wrong he gets it very wrong.
Hope Levins recovers. A key will be avoiding the track below 5000.
For a sec I thought this was a thread from 2012.
He's gonna run sub-64 this weekend, 62:30-63:59. Then he's gonna run sub-62:00 at the World Half Champs and threaten the Canadian half marathon record on 61:28. In the fall he will run Amsterdam and go sub-2:10 and be the first Canadian under to do that.
He's on the comeback trail. I'm rooting for him.
moist wrote:
For a sec I thought this was a thread from 2012.
I think the mods pulled posts from the HOKA thread to create this one... that’s where I commented yesterday and it is in this thread today
dsrunner wrote:
Of course you can overtrain with high mileage but Levins was injured and cooked by more complex and thorough overtraining. When Salazar gets it wrong he gets it very wrong.
Hope Levins recovers. A key will be avoiding the track below 5000.
Yeah -- that coincides with Lydiard and his belief that anaerobic training is almost always the cause of overtraining. Not easy mileage.
And it seems like Salazar's coaching really emphasizes the speed training.
People are jumping to the conclusion that the high mileage is the culprit because that's the only thing they know about Cam Levins. Even though he did that quite a while ago. Injuries can be caused by literally anything. Lack of sleep, bad nutrition, too much speedwork, too many miles, to much life stress, improper form, etc.
fsdgsdg wrote:
it is just lightening in a bottle. .
You mean like Coke Zero?
Never Oprah wrote:
Donut Dan wrote:
I'm not a Cam hater by any means, but I think he had insane high mileage for too long and ruined it for himself and now he seems injury prone. Guess we'll see how he does in Houston.
And the funny thing is that Flotrack made a series about him running 190 miles per week. They are so ignorant.
Ryan Hall also praised him and said that Cam was gonna do great things because of his ability to run 190 miles per week.
I can't believe how stupid some people are.
Sounds like you’re the ignorant one. He got better and faster when he stopped the super high mileage, including his commonwealth bronze, his famous indoor 3:54/8:15 double win, and a 27:07 10k (among other achievements). Where’ve you been? And how is flotrack ignorant for not predicting the future, when he was running very well when they made the series? Cmon man.
Runsmith wrote:
dsrunner wrote:
Of course you can overtrain with high mileage but Levins was injured and cooked by more complex and thorough overtraining. When Salazar gets it wrong he gets it very wrong.
Hope Levins recovers. A key will be avoiding the track below 5000.
Yeah -- that coincides with Lydiard and his belief that anaerobic training is almost always the cause of overtraining. Not easy mileage.
And it seems like Salazar's coaching really emphasizes the speed training.
People are jumping to the conclusion that the high mileage is the culprit because that's the only thing they know about Cam Levins. Even though he did that quite a while ago. Injuries can be caused by literally anything. Lack of sleep, bad nutrition, too much speedwork, too many miles, to much life stress, improper form, etc.
+1
ThisIsTrue wrote:
Runsmith wrote:
Yeah -- that coincides with Lydiard and his belief that anaerobic training is almost always the cause of overtraining. Not easy mileage.
And it seems like Salazar's coaching really emphasizes the speed training.
People are jumping to the conclusion that the high mileage is the culprit because that's the only thing they know about Cam Levins. Even though he did that quite a while ago. Injuries can be caused by literally anything. Lack of sleep, bad nutrition, too much speedwork, too many miles, to much life stress, improper form, etc.
+1
There is a difference between overtraining and stress fractures
Runsmith wrote:
dsrunner wrote:
Of course you can overtrain with high mileage but Levins was injured and cooked by more complex and thorough overtraining. When Salazar gets it wrong he gets it very wrong.
Hope Levins recovers. A key will be avoiding the track below 5000.
Yeah -- that coincides with Lydiard and his belief that anaerobic training is almost always the cause of overtraining. Not easy mileage.
And it seems like Salazar's coaching really emphasizes the speed training.
People are jumping to the conclusion that the high mileage is the culprit because that's the only thing they know about Cam Levins. Even though he did that quite a while ago. Injuries can be caused by literally anything. Lack of sleep, bad nutrition, too much speedwork, too many miles, to much life stress, improper form, etc.
It wasn't a problem that Cam ran high mileage, the problem was the way he did it. He would do too many quality workouts on insane high mileage and not cutting back when he knew that he should have.
Never Oprah wrote: I can't believe how stupid some people are.
you haven't been on LRC very long, have you?
Cheers.
More often then not, after someone is featured on FLotrack, they’re career takes a nosedive and they become injury ridden. Not everyone, but it seems more often than not. It’s like flotrack has the kids of death on they’re career.
Never Oprah wrote:
Donut Dan wrote:
I'm not a Cam hater by any means, but I think he had insane high mileage for too long and ruined it for himself and now he seems injury prone. Guess we'll see how he does in Houston.
And the funny thing is that Flotrack made a series about him running 190 miles per week. They are so ignorant.
Ryan Hall also praised him and said that Cam was gonna do great things because of his ability to run 190 miles per week.
I can't believe how stupid some people are.
Levins has been coached extremely poorly. Just looking at him and his from you can tell he was not meant to be running these distances. His true talent is an 800/1500 runner.
If he can get a good coach and stop doing the crazy mileage and start focusing on his speed he will be a 1:45/ 3:40 runner no doubt.
Informed runner wrote:
Levins has been coached extremely poorly. Just looking at him and his from you can tell he was not meant to be running these distances. His true talent is an 800/1500 runner.
If he can get a good coach and stop doing the crazy mileage and start focusing on his speed he will be a 1:45/ 3:40 runner no doubt.
The trouble is, a 1:45/3:40 runner is not going to make much of a living from running.
yikes........ wrote:
Informed runner wrote:
Levins has been coached extremely poorly. Just looking at him and his from you can tell he was not meant to be running these distances. His true talent is an 800/1500 runner.
If he can get a good coach and stop doing the crazy mileage and start focusing on his speed he will be a 1:45/ 3:40 runner no doubt.
The trouble is, a 1:45/3:40 runner is not going to make much of a living from running.
yes because 1:45 and 3:40 are better than his 5k/10k lol. unless you meant 3:30?
Flodeath wrote:
More often then not, after someone is featured on FLotrack, they’re career takes a nosedive and they become injury ridden. Not everyone, but it seems more often than not.
It’s like flotrack has the kids of death on they’re career.
Never Oprah wrote:
And the funny thing is that Flotrack made a series about him running 190 miles per week. They are so ignorant.
Ryan Hall also praised him and said that Cam was gonna do great things because of his ability to run 190 miles per week.
I can't believe how stupid some people are.
Who was that high school girl that ran marathons and was coached by her dad. Flotrack spotted her also. Now she does not run anymore.