fred wrote:
lklklklk wrote:
Allie O dunked once or twice in high school. Probably lost a few inches off the vert since then tho.
no she did not
relax dude, i didn't say she did a 360 tomahawk from the free thow line or anything. More like barely dropped it in and snagged the rim with a couple finger tips on the way down. Still impressive tho...
fred wrote:
lklklklk wrote:
Allie O dunked once or twice in high school. Probably lost a few inches off the vert since then tho.
no she did not
Yes she did.
it's funny how people are automatically trained to doubt. Shows just how cynical the internet has made us. Just because something seems unlikely, doesn't mean it can't or didn't happen. Same people doubting on here, would have laughed off the the idea of "Allie Ostrander: Steeple Chaser." World ain't always as easy to understand or explain as you'd like to think it is, people.
allie O steelplechase Champion: happened.
Allie O dunk (or almost dunk) : happened. Ask Soldotna team if you don't believe.
World doesn't care if you believe or not.
Post from Tinman from 2006, similar thread:
Vertical jump often decreases for runners "putting in the miles." How much you lose depends upon how many miles you run and how much vertical you started with before running. A runner who has a small percent of fast twitch muscle fibers will never have much jumping ability, so loss of vertical jumping will be relatively small. On the other hand, a middle distance runner who has about 50% fast twitch fibers in their legs will nomrally experience a huge drop in vertical jumping ability when mileage goes up.
Back in the 1980s, I bought and read Bill Rodger's book on marathoning. In the book he said that loss of vertical jumping ability was a good sign (for him) that he was ready to run a good marathon. If his "hops" were too good, he would lack endurance to finish the marathon strong.
Tinman
SlowFatMaster wrote:
Post from Tinman from 2006, similar thread:
Vertical jump often decreases for runners "putting in the miles." How much you lose depends upon how many miles you run and how much vertical you started with before running. A runner who has a small percent of fast twitch muscle fibers will never have much jumping ability, so loss of vertical jumping will be relatively small. On the other hand, a middle distance runner who has about 50% fast twitch fibers in their legs will nomrally experience a huge drop in vertical jumping ability when mileage goes up.
Back in the 1980s, I bought and read Bill Rodger's book on marathoning. In the book he said that loss of vertical jumping ability was a good sign (for him) that he was ready to run a good marathon. If his "hops" were too good, he would lack endurance to finish the marathon strong.
Tinman
I am sorry but I do not believe he actually can dunk. How tall is he? Ijust have seen so many distance runners try to play basketball and and after being on 4 different xc teams from highschool to college only two teammates could dunk. one was a 210lbs 800 runner who ran 2:00 and played basketball,baseball, and track. The other was a 1:56 800m and 48 400m runner. Neither of those guys ever ran more than 35 mpw. I myself could barely dunk when I ran in highschool(typical 4:30 9:45 15:50 runner. I have found out that whenever I do not run a ton of miles( i had gotten up to 85 mpw at one point) It becomes much easier to dunk. It is as if running is what has always hindered my ability to dunk so bill rodgers is right in my opinion.
I read a study in which a group of male OT marathoners were tested for a bunch of physical skills, including vertical jump, a couple of months before and a couple of months after the Trials race. Before, their average vertical jump was comically low—something like 13 inches. (One guy’s was 9.) When they were retested months after the marathon, the results were nearly identical, except for a small group of them whose jumps went up by about eight inches. The only thing that those guys had in common was that they’d completely stopped running.
lklklklk wrote:
Allie O dunked once or twice in high school. Probably lost a few inches off the vert since then tho.
On a 5 ft rim maybe. She's 4 ft 10 on a good day.
similar thread ...
nevafoget wrote:
it's funny how people are automatically trained to doubt. Shows just how cynical the internet has made us. Just because something seems unlikely, doesn't mean it can't or didn't happen. Same people doubting on here, would have laughed off the the idea of "Allie Ostrander: Steeple Chaser." World ain't always as easy to understand or explain as you'd like to think it is, people.
allie O steelplechase Champion: happened.
Allie O dunk (or almost dunk) : happened. Ask Soldotna team if you don't believe.
World doesn't care if you believe or not.
I doubt it. Apparently some of the world cares if we don't believe.
Hand size was already mentioned wrote:
800 dude wrote:
Simple math will tell you if that it true. Measure height and vertical and you'll have your answer.
Even elite runners can barely get off the ground and most are on the short side too.
Your equation is missing wingspan and hand size.
And while it's true that elites are typically short, it's absolutely false that they can barely get off the ground. It's simply not possible to run at an elite level without being able to rapidly recruit a lot of muscle fibers to quickly
They have tested many elite runners vertical. They really can't jump.
Did you know a Pronghorn can't jump a fence?
But gazelles can.
Milethon wrote:
My main goal is life before I started running was to dunk. I should of focused a lot more time and effort on more valuable skills of game besides dunking but all the jumping drills and failed attempts payed off as I was able to dunk with two hands by the end of my freshman year JV basketball season.
Once I started running, I was able to keep that spring in my legs for a couple years, but then it started to whittle down to just grabbing the rim to now at 32 barely touching it on a good day.
Weird, I am also 32, also could dunk before starting running (I could dunk in 8th grade, but only one hand), and also lost the ability after I started running.
Now thay I only run a little, I can just get my my finger tips an inch or so over the rim. Distance running really does destroy explosiveness.
Deer Runner wrote:
Hand size was already mentioned wrote:
Your equation is missing wingspan and hand size.
And while it's true that elites are typically short, it's absolutely false that they can barely get off the ground. It's simply not possible to run at an elite level without being able to rapidly recruit a lot of muscle fibers to quickly
They have tested many elite runners vertical. They really can't jump.
Did you know a Pronghorn can't jump a fence?
But gazelles can.
Not all of them.
Allie Oops wrote:
nevafoget wrote:
it's funny how people are automatically trained to doubt. Shows just how cynical the internet has made us. Just because something seems unlikely, doesn't mean it can't or didn't happen. Same people doubting on here, would have laughed off the the idea of "Allie Ostrander: Steeple Chaser." World ain't always as easy to understand or explain as you'd like to think it is, people.
allie O steelplechase Champion: happened.
Allie O dunk (or almost dunk) : happened. Ask Soldotna team if you don't believe.
World doesn't care if you believe or not.
I doubt it. Apparently some of the world cares if we don't believe.
I am a big Allie O fan but obviously she did not dunk. She is 5’1”, so her standing reach is maybe 6’10”. That means she needs a vertical leap of 38” just to touch the rim. Add another 6” to actually dunk, and she needs a 44” vertical. A vertical of 38” would put her in 11th place at the NBA draft combine, 44” would make her second.
I realize that a vertical leap test is different than a run up to a dunk. But the math is still daunting. By way of comparison, NBA point guard Mugsy Bogues was 5’3” and had a 44” vertical, and apparently dunked only once in his life in practice, although he could grab the rim.
Or just look at women’s basketball players — very few dunks in D1 and WNBA, where the average height is much greater than 5’1”.
you just beat the joke to death
Sub-4 Mile and can / could dunk list?
Justyn Knight (CAN), 3:56.87
Others?
Why did you bring up the discus?
Boogieman wrote:
LMAO lrc is hilarious. A 4:20 mile is hard but dunking is easy
I bet if you gathered every sub 4:20 high school miler in the USA, less than 3 could dunk a regulation ball on a 10'-0" rim right now
Josh Thompson, ran for Oklahoma State
Deer Runner wrote:
Allie Oops wrote:
I doubt it. Apparently some of the world cares if we don't believe.
I am a big Allie O fan but obviously she did not dunk. She is 5’1”, so her standing reach is maybe 6’10”. That means she needs a vertical leap of 38” just to touch the rim. Add another 6” to actually dunk, and she needs a 44” vertical. A vertical of 38” would put her in 11th place at the NBA draft combine, 44” would make her second.
I realize that a vertical leap test is different than a run up to a dunk. But the math is still daunting. By way of comparison, NBA point guard Mugsy Bogues was 5’3” and had a 44” vertical, and apparently dunked only once in his life in practice, although he could grab the rim.
Or just look at women’s basketball players — very few dunks in D1 and WNBA, where the average height is much greater than 5’1”.
So, there's definitely a chance she did it then.
Who wins a dunk contest, Allie "Oops" Ostrander or "Michael" Jordan Hasay?
Did you know a Pronghorn can't jump a fence?
I didn't know that. Neither did the guy in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uz7S7b86XZY