This was his 3000m sc debut, but I think he's run a few 2000 or 1500 steeples before, so he's not entirely a novice at barriers.
That's a side note though. This result blows my mind.
This was his 3000m sc debut, but I think he's run a few 2000 or 1500 steeples before, so he's not entirely a novice at barriers.
That's a side note though. This result blows my mind.
I looked up the ages a couple weeks ago, I think you only need to be 17 for the 10k or marathon (not 100% sure).
I think the idea is that having his brother also competing would help him psychologically, since he's used to having Henrik there, and being excited about his younger brother might help him relax and just enjoy himself more since it's clear they like doing things as a family.
Does anyone have full results/video for this race? He's not going to be a factor at WC but to qualify at 16 seems unprecedented, has it happened before on the track? He's probably had a better chance to develop at a young age than others due to his training, but even at a modest level of improvement you'd have to think he could contend in 3 events at Tokyo, he clearly knows how to pace himself and has great race savvy as well.
Cut the theatrics and tell us wrote:
This was his 3000m sc debut, but I think he's run a few 2000 or 1500 steeples before, so he's not entirely a novice at barriers.
That's a side note though. This result blows my mind.
My first steeplechase was 8:52, when I was a 4:08 miler at 18 years old. Although I looked quit a bit younger at 18 than Ingebrigtsen does at 16.
This seems right in line for his other results.
3.000m St
1 Jakob Ingebrigtsen (nor) u18 8.26.81;
2 José Peña (ven) 8.28.59;
3 Napoleon Solomon (swe) 8.28.86;
4 Soufien Cherni (tun) u20 8.38.26;
5 Miguel Borges (por) 8.41.99;
6 Caleb Hoover (usa) 8.52.50;
7 Bjornar Lillefosse (nor) 8.52.82
Scroll down for the meet results:
http://trackinsun.blogspot.com/His first 3000mSt, against a weakish field, the day after a 13:49...
You have to think that Jakob could run sub 8:20 against a stronger field (where he is just cruising behind other runners) and completely rested. He could be a WC finalist. He probably has better mile speed than 75% of WC finalist.
They have to give him a spot in the Monaco steeple. I would love to see what he can do.
TWO days after his 13:49. Which shouldn't hurt him. I agree with you that he can go 8:20 but I disagree that his is faster than 75% of the WC finalists. Also, I'm not so sure that "cruising behind other runners" is going to help a novice. Other runners is what makes the steeplechase difficult.
As malmo once said, "You don't choose the steeplechase. The steeplechase chooses you." Believe it.
Henrick wrote:
"You don't choose the steeplechase. The steeplechase chooses you." Believe it.
Yup. Jakob will certainly get other opportunities to success, and most importantly fail, at the steeplechase. Jager didn't get released from his apprenticeship until he fell in the water in his second or third(?) race. That's when he learned that you cannot lose your concentration at any time, because when you do, disaster lurks. Every barrier focus in on (1) what's in front of you and (2) what's around you. Every barrier.
Should be exciting to see him progress.
Drug Of Choice wrote:
This is the same time that Evan Jager ran in his debut...at age 23.
This may be the most shocking result for Jakob yet.
Folks... A 16 year old body doesn't recover like that.
Sub 14 5km, and the next day (with travel) 8:26 3km steeple.
Nope, that doesn't just happen normally.
13:49 and 8:26 two days apart...winning both handily. Barely able to drive legally if he was in the U.S..
SMFH!
Drug Of Choice wrote:
SMFH!
Shakin my head, boss!
Keep shakin it, Luke.
Henrick wrote:
... I disagree that his is faster than 75% of the WC finalists. Also, I'm not so sure that "cruising behind other runners" is going to help a novice...
Out of the 15 Rio finalist, I think that only Jager, Kowal, Mekhissi, B. Kipruto and Araptany have better 1500/mile PRs than Jakob. Ok, that's 66% and not 75%, but he is certainly up there... in my mind, only Jager, Kowal and Mekhissi are out of his league in the mile right now, but these 3 all came in top 5. Jakob is certainly not a medal contender, but very likely a finalist.
Not normal recovery wrote:
Drug Of Choice wrote:This is the same time that Evan Jager ran in his debut...at age 23.
This may be the most shocking result for Jakob yet.
Folks... A 16 year old body doesn't recover like that.
Sub 14 5km, and the next day (with travel) 8:26 3km steeple.
Nope, that doesn't just happen normally.
^^^This. Track and Field is becoming a joke of a sport with how obvious it is people are doping. Even young kids are getting more obvious. Ffs, at least try to make it look harder.
malmo wrote:
Drug Of Choice wrote:SMFH!
Shakin my head, boss!
Keep shakin it, Luke.
This made me laugh. I'd say a good portion here have no idea what you're referring to.
Better tell him not to catch Magnus Carlsen's bad habits.
Pardon? A 16-year-old body should recover much faster than an adult, what is so abnormal about that?
Sledge_hammer wrote:
Pardon? A 16-year-old body should recover much faster than an adult, what is so abnormal about that?
God you're stupid.
Not really, his times are great for his age and good across the events but remember, Kipchoge, Kejelcha, Barega (kid from last Lausanne Diamond League), EL G. There have been plenty of kids far faster at 5,000m which shows that his stamina isn't anything out of this world. He has obviously been lifting weights for a while and is on 80 miles per week.
He definitely doesn't, all the athletes lurking over 8 minutes are capable of 3:34 1500m (3:51 mile), the 3000m is comparatively easier than the other events as well. (probably as a result of not being so popular).
Ben L Wrong wrote:
He's going to Worlds. Is too much money on the table. (Sponsors, media attention, etc)
I don't think that's such a big factor for him.
Ben L Wrong wrote:
Right now, he could be the most marketable Scandinavian athlete. (Counting the likes of Sarah Petersen, Angelica Bengtsson, Tero Pittkamaki, Anti Ruuskanen, and the same Henrik Ingebrigtsen)
Um...
Right now, he could be the most white Scandinavian athlete who can perform at a high level. (Counting the likes of Sarah Petersen, Angelica Bengtsson, Tero Pittkamaki, Anti Ruuskanen, and the same Henrik Ingebrigtsen)
Fixed that for you.
malmo wrote:
My first steeplechase was 8:52, when I was a 4:08 miler at 18 years old. Although I looked quit a bit younger at 18 than Ingebrigtsen does at 16.
12 seconds faster in the mile (3:56 to 4:08), and 26 seconds faster in the SC. Agreed, his steeple lines up will with his other performances.
Obviously you had much more upside at time of debut than him, even though he is only 16. Will he be a flash in the pan?