ANDREWS DNF

Wasn't Engels in it too?

transient wrote:

ilovemary wrote:

I think it would be Blankenship

Blankenship got 12th at USAs... what are you talking about? Next in line is Craig Engels.

He's talking about the fact the the next in line with the standard is Blankenship. Engels doesn't have the standard yet either.

In life, you should stop responding to people like you just did, particularly if you don't have your facts together. It breeds anger and resentment, at the same time it made you look ignorant and petulant

So funny if Rupp or many other runners did this they'd get the LRC Treatment.

How many past American greats did that?!

It's not a good sign

notorious p.o.o.p wrote:

Devil Dog wrote:

Another case study in noballs American style running. Know you need a 3:36? Set up a hot pace, don't follow the pace, and everyone runs another meh time.

Or maybe Robby just felt like sh*t from the gun. Sometimes that happens. He's just a guy, not a superhuman; sometimes guys feel like sh*t. Calm down.

I didn't mean Robby in particular, I meant all American distance runners of the last couple decades in general.

Want to see a boring race? Watch a bunch of American professionals run a distance race.

A 3:37 blanket finish is cool in a championship race. Its not at all cool when its hyped the way it was, when the pacer is sent through on a hot time, when multiple people in the race want the standard, and when no one goes for the ride.

Boring. Been watching the same thing, year after year, for 20 years.

At least when the Americans run 3:37 in a 3:30 race in Europe you can watch the excitement up front and forget about them.

Oh yeah...they don't want to peak too soon. Fast in May, slow in August. Blah, blah, blah. Still gonna lose to the Kenyans who set world leads in Doha.

Only thing worse is watching America professionals run a 5k. The boring lasts for 13:28 then. Meanwhile some unknown 17 year old Kenyan ran to the well 5k from his house in 13 flat.

We combined the two threads on this.

Devil Dog wrote:

transient wrote:

Blankenship got 12th at USAs... what are you talking about? Next in line is Craig Engels.

He's talking about the fact the the next in line with the standard is Blankenship. Engels doesn't have the standard yet either.

In life, you should stop responding to people like you just did, particularly if you don't have your facts together. It breeds anger and resentment, at the same time it made you look ignorant and petulant

You should stop using run-on sentences. It makes you look ignorant. How bou da?

Devil Dog wrote:

notorious p.o.o.p wrote:

Or maybe Robby just felt like sh*t from the gun. Sometimes that happens. He's just a guy, not a superhuman; sometimes guys feel like sh*t. Calm down.

I didn't mean Robby in particular, I meant all American distance runners of the last couple decades in general.

Oh. Then your take is even dumber than I thought at first.

What about the the fans in San Francisco? What about points for his teammates and trying to win the dang meet?

Surge on!

transient wrote:

ilovemary wrote:

I think it would be Blankenship

Blankenship got 12th at USAs... what are you talking about? Next in line is Craig Engels.

Right now, Blankenship has the 3rd slot for the US. He finished highest of anyone with a qualifier at the US Trials. Engels does not have a qualifier either.

transient wrote:

?????????????????? wrote:

Next with the qualifier is Blankenship (?)

True. But you have to place in the top 8 regardless to go.

This is incorrect. The top 8 only applies to chasing a Q after the Trials. Blankenship is in at this point.

SoaciB wrote:

transient wrote:

Blankenship got 12th at USAs... what are you talking about? Next in line is Craig Engels.

Right now, Blankenship has the 3rd slot for the US. He finished highest of anyone with a qualifier at the US Trials. Engels does not have a qualifier either.

More importantly, Ben scored big points for the Force today.

transient wrote:

True. But you have to place in the top 8 regardless to go.

Only the top 8 are allowed to "chase." According to the USATF, if 3 of them don't have the standard by the end of the chase period, "USATF may, in its discretion, in rank order of finish at the Selection Event, enter athletes and/or designate athletes as alternates based on their having achieved the applicable IAAF Qualifying Standard."

I think he was out a little fast for how he races. I was thinking 1:57/58 was better suited for him. Maybe it was the opening 400 though, they were easily under 56

I agree with him stepping off here . Normally I wouldn't but this was a pure TT.

Are people taking this city-based team thing seriously? I'm almost completely oblivious to these "teams" the athletes are "competing for".

Surge Fan wrote:

SoaciB wrote:

Right now, Blankenship has the 3rd slot for the US. He finished highest of anyone with a qualifier at the US Trials. Engels does not have a qualifier either.

More importantly, Ben scored big points for the Force today.

GBohannon wrote:

what just happened wrote:

what happened to him?

I am guessing he dropped because he knew he didn't have 53 in him which is what he needed for the standard. Rather than stupidly sprinting a 55 for no reason, he chose to save it for another attempt in the near future.

That's not a smart thing if that's the case.

You don't save it for later. It's not like a fast close will be there later if he drops out here. You can run fast more than once.

It wouldn't physically harm him to finish the race.

But mentally, dropping out can become a habit.

It probably won't matter, though.

But sometimes you need to race yourself into shape. He could get a season best, get a feel for the pace and improve the next race.

Dropping out doesn't give you that gauge of where you are.

He'll get the standard.

No, it was a joke.

It did make me laugh when he dropped out b/c doing so highlighted the fact that this league and these teams don't mean all that much to anyone.

LetsRun.com wrote:

We combined the two threads on this.

Thank you for your service.

Star wrote:

GBohannon wrote:

I am guessing he dropped because he knew he didn't have 53 in him which is what he needed for the standard. Rather than stupidly sprinting a 55 for no reason, he chose to save it for another attempt in the near future.

That's not a smart thing if that's the case.

You don't save it for later. It's not like a fast close will be there later if he drops out here. You can run fast more than once.

It wouldn't physically harm him to finish the race.

But mentally, dropping out can become a habit.

It probably won't matter, though.

But sometimes you need to race yourself into shape. He could get a season best, get a feel for the pace and improve the next race.

Dropping out doesn't give you that gauge of where you are.

He'll get the standard.

I do agree that he will get it. I don't think dropping out was too bad of an idea though. It probably wouldn't have hurt him too much for Thursday, but why even risk it? I understand the idea that it could become a habit, but maybe dropping out and trying again Thursday was Plan B all along.

Think of it this way:

Say you're shooting for a fast 1500 on Thursday and you are looking at Sunday as your last hard workout to sharpen for that race.

You want to finish that workout with a lot of pop and confidence.

You don't skip your last rep after a so so rep before that.

Today's race was like that workout.

Finishing it fast would not be a risk.

I dont think it was an injury or fatigue risk thing.

I think he just wasn't feeling it and shut it down.

He just won the Trials. He's in shape.

Chuck this out and get it next time.