Boulder or Flagstaff

I USED to run in Flag, weather was bad was actually to dry Boulder is much better but seriously altitude isn't THAT important many of the worlds best train at lower elevations Look at Lagat he is in tuscon enjoying the sun.

Forget Boulder and Flag, altitude is overrated! How bout a place where the beer flows like wine and the women instictively flock like the samon of Capastano... A little place called Tempe. Seriously, Tempe AZ is the place to run. Smog, cement, heat and plenty of SNATCH!

eddy wrote:

Sleddog I could never live in Flagstaff or Boulder it would cost me a fortune in gas money to go to the Phoenix or Denver airport twice a week.

In late spring and summer you will get stranded in Denver airport due the lightning storms.

Eddy

I'm sure the issue is as serious as you state, Addy. That's one fine display of thought and reason in your post.

Yeah, move to scummy and crime-ridden Albuquerque where you can't get a single quality workout in all summer due to the extreme heat. But the airport sure is handy! Good thing, so you can get the hell out ASAP.

The others here are right, altitude is over-rated and there are far better places to live and train than Albuquerque.

Living at altitude is a bit overrated, but using altitude camps make sense. Of course, you can now just buy a gizmo to sleep in and train at sea level.

Professional athletes frequently fly, why train if it is a hassle to compete in a major event. If it takes you 1.5 (Boulder) or 2.5 hours (Flagstaff) to get to a major airport

that affects your race. I agree with Eddy who travels 40-45 weekends a year that for him and many athletes it is the best place to live and train. I used to live in flagstaff and upgraded to ABQ. Although my friends from Flagstaff need to visit me for alot of basic things that are not available in Flagstaff, these are examples 1. Fix a tax issue with the IRS 2. Exchange an airline ticket 3. Visit the US Immigration 4. Get a visa to race in Mexico 5. Buy a car, no major car dealer in Flagstaff 6. Get adequate physical therapy 7. Get a job 8. Defrost 9. have surgery

10. race each weekend without driving on the US's most dangerous highway according to AAA. (the Flagtaff-Phoenix).

So it is not a scummy place, but an actual city. But that is my opinion for athletes who compete, not for those who want to live in a tent or commune and go hiking with people (men and women) who dont shave, pay too much for organic produce and want to save Tibet.

Most professional runners travel 40-45 weekends a year? I don't think most travel even 20-22 weekends per year, and that's including sprinters. Somehow the 1.5 (actually, one hour tops) from Boulder to DIA or from Tuscon to Phoenix or however long it takes to get from Mammoth Lakes to the nearest major airport hasn't seemed to have hurt the Culpeppers or Abdi or Meb or Deena any. The hour drive between DIA and Boulder is made up for by having access to more direct flights, cutting down on OVERALL travel time for a good majority of destinations. For their convenient airport, neither Eddy nor Morris have raced better than Alan or Abdi or Meb in the past few years (for Eddy, more like ever), not even close.

Albuquerque is not only a scummy place, it isn't even a real city. Nice winters, I'll give you that, and the close airport (with just HOW many direct connections?) helps for those who do the smart thing and make it a temporary stop.

Face it, Buffy's just a pretender who couldn't hack it and now just lashes out to try to make him or herself look better.

abq, flag, boulder= all above 5000ft

abq, flag, boulder= all have extensive trails

weather= edge to abq and boulder because of the winters.

jobs=edge to abq because of the population.

travel=abq int airport, boulder not to far from denver airport.

training groups=boulder has more national class americans running around, abq has plenty of africans, europeans and japanese..flag has wejo, used to have deiter.

tracks=abq. university of nm, abq academy track, very flexible to the public and good surfaces.

flag?? bozeman=dont know the story now that they have a new track.

for a permanent residence runner i would say abq.

seasonal residence runner boulder.

nature or seasonal runner flagstaff.

Flagstaff is the best altitude training location in the US. Great trail system, great workout facilities, and Wejo. NAU has one of the best, if not the best, indoor facilites in the US and the outdoor track is suffucuent. Plus all 3 high schools have all weather tracks if one should need them.

In my opinion Flagstaff has alot to offer and is a great place to train.

Boulder is a great place to train, as is Flagstaff. However, I would say the best place to train in the US is Barstow, California.

Look eastward...to New Jersey and the Summit High-Altitude Training Camp (SHATC). Close to an international airport, many running stores, training partners of all ability levels, a neat track that's open to the public, and of course the benefits of high altitude (350 ft above sea level, with climbs to 600 ft).

Downside includes a ridiculously high cost of living.

PS: "sleddog," I think your memory's a bit faulty....that "smelly person with suspicious stains on his pants" was me, and it wasn't on the Greyhound in Arizona, it was in the van at Nationwide Insurance Hood-to-Coast.

I think that people should train in Death Valley at Bad Water. This is the lowest place in North America, something like 262 feet below sea level. Anyhow, instead of training at a slower pace at altitude, a person should go as low as possible for increased speed. Plus, if you want altitude you could go run in the Sierra Nevada Mountain chain which is only a few hours drive. In fact you could do altitude training on top of Mt. Whitney (highest point in US at 14,494 feet) and then drive down to bad water in Dealth Valley and do your low level training. I would say this is the best high/ low scenario out there.

Ronald wrote:

Forget Boulder and Flag, altitude is overrated! How bout a place where the beer flows like wine and the women instictively flock like the samon of Capastano... A little place called Tempe. Seriously, Tempe AZ is the place to run. Smog, cement, heat and plenty of SNATCH!

Ronald,

I hope you're getting some good stuff out there. It hasn't been bad here-sub 20 some days. I miss you, SNATCH!

Real men go to Fucking 2 Mile High ZHONGDIAN CHINA.

Buffy and BUFFY are two different persons.

I like pudding after I run.

Here ye, here ye, pudding is the single greatest achievement in the history of man kind. Especially the snack-pack.

... or Leadville with easy access to 14k - Mt. Massive.

Run in Flag,

Do you know of anybody who has an extra room for the summer? I'm looking to make a move; would appreciate the info.