That's a hard no.
How about dedicating a seat in the stands in his name, or a bench by the runway, like a normal dead person???
That's a hard no.
How about dedicating a seat in the stands in his name, or a bench by the runway, like a normal dead person???
How about in the middle of the meet they pause the events. Then they get a helicopter to fly above the stadium and they dump his ashes over the stadium. [quote]
Not in the LJ pit, for sure. The TJ pit, maybe
I find it odd that people have strong feelings one way or the other. Though those strong feelings on the 'no' side, I think, justify the meet director's decision.
In a world of rational people no one would care. Alas, we're not rational creatures.
Xanax wrote:
I find it odd that people have strong feelings one way or the other. Though those strong feelings on the 'no' side, I think, justify the meet director's decision.
In a world of rational people no one would care. Alas, we're not rational creatures.
When the jumpers get some in their mouth yum yum burnt human.
It's totally rational to enjoy jumping into a pit full of dead humans.
rojo wrote:
Des Moines Register wrote:“Here’s one example. I met a guy who passed away earlier this year. He had been to more than 50 Drake Relays. Maybe 60. With his son. With family members. I don’t know how serious he was with it, but his stepson reached out to me and asked if his ashes could be scattered in the long jump.
“Obviously not within our plans, but it certainly speaks volumes about what the Drake Relays mean to people and the emotion they feel for it.â€
Why wouldn't they agree to this? I'd be thrilled to do it if I was a meet director. What do you think?
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/drake/drake-relays/2017/04/24/blake-boldon-drake-relays-director-worlds-best-track-meet/305934001/
Rojo, I've come to this website hundreds, if not thousands of times. To honor me when I die, I would like my ashes to be spread across your bed so that you and your wife can roll around in them when you sleep and make love. Thanks. I'm glad you are thrilled to comply.
A rational person wrote:
Xanax wrote:I find it odd that people have strong feelings one way or the other. Though those strong feelings on the 'no' side, I think, justify the meet director's decision.
In a world of rational people no one would care. Alas, we're not rational creatures.
When the jumpers get some in their mouth yum yum burnt human.
It's totally rational to enjoy jumping into a pit full of dead humans.
See, perfectly illustrative example of an irrational reaction.
Why are calcium phosphates so much worse than silicon dioxide? They contain no organic compounds and aren't toxic.
I don't think they can really change their decision now that the whole thing has received some attention. It wouldn't have been a big deal if they'd just quietly let the family spread the ashes, but I'm sure that they don't want to announce to all track fans that Drake is the place to have your ashes dumped, which is what they'd be doing by letting it happen in publicized fashion.
I wouldn't compete in such a venue.On just a human level it 1) is kind of creepy. Who wants to roll around in human remains? 2) Is disrespectful to the human being who died.I'm also against it on religious grounds which all here might not share (I believe in the proper burial of someone's remains).
Styu wrote:
It's pretty reasonable to think that some athletes and spectators would be uncomfortable with that. I don't think it needs any more explanation than that.
[quote]rojo clickbait new low wrote:
I wouldn't compete in such a venue.
On just a human level it 1) is kind of creepy. Who wants to roll around in human remains? 2) Is disrespectful to the human being who died.
I'm also against it on religious grounds which all here might not share (I believe in the proper burial of someone's remains).
There is nothing human about the ashes. Any "human" element left the body the moment he died. What was left was just a bunch of organic compounds and some bone. The ash is just the building blocks of that bone. It's also found in rocks and vegetables and saltwater the world over.
Further, you can't disrespect someone who isn't alive. Respect (and it's antithesis) is just a notion that exists in the minds of the audience. You could of course disrespect the living kin. That's up to them. They might feel a refusal is disrespectful given his love and patronage of the meet for so long. But we can't speak for them.
You're making assumptions about rojo's bedroom life that someone who actually visited here "hundreds" of times, wouldn't make.JustSaiyan wrote:
rojo wrote:Why wouldn't they agree to this? I'd be thrilled to do it if I was a meet director. What do you think?
http://www.desmoinesregister.com/story/sports/college/drake/drake-relays/2017/04/24/blake-boldon-drake-relays-director-worlds-best-track-meet/305934001/Rojo, I've come to this website hundreds, if not thousands of times. To honor me when I die, I would like my ashes to be spread across your bed so that you and your wife can roll around in them when you sleep and make love. Thanks. I'm glad you are thrilled to comply.
Of all the things we could change in the track world, Rojo wants to tackle this one.
If they had just dumped the ashes in their no one would have known, right? How much space do they take up?
What about just releasing them on the infield? Same thing.
I'm sure there are ashes spread all over tons of football stadiums in America without people knowing.
This whole thing is a bit weird and I'm surprised Robert wants it done but this is weirder. Watch the video. They dump his ashes with a porto john visible in the background and then say "don't step on him".
wejo wrote:
What about just releasing them on the infield? Same thing.
I think people might notice on Drake's fake turf infield. Just a thought.
ATTN MODS: please change the title. Drake identifies as a cis male
wejo wrote:
Of all the things we could change in the track world, Rojo wants to tackle this one.
If they had just dumped the ashes in their no one would have known, right? How much space do they take up?
What about just releasing them on the infield? Same thing.
I'm sure there are ashes spread all over tons of football stadiums in America without people knowing.
This whole thing is a bit weird and I'm surprised Robert wants it done but this is weirder. Watch the video. They dump his ashes with a porto john visible in the background and then say "don't step on him".
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/news/2017/01/12/cowboys-fans-deliver-final-gift-mother-troubled-son-lost
How is that weirder? It's exactly the same.
- They both want their ashes spread by strangers
- They both want their ashes spread at a sport stadium they never competed at or had any connection to, other than as a fan
- They both want them placed into a public area where other people are guaranteed to walk through
The only reason you think the football one is because of the backstory of the guy being incarcerated, and because everybody in that story is white trash. You don't actually know anything about the Drake Relays guy, he could have been a real jerk in his life, or an absolute saint, we have no idea.
This strikes me as ghoulish and potentially unsanitary.
But -
There's the old adage: better to beg for forgiveness than ask for permission.
How about NO bear wrote:
rojo wrote:Legal reasons? They can just rake a few ashes in there. Do you really think ashes are worse than sand?
How about a few ounces of bodily fluids (say, synovial) in the water they hand to the distance runners? That should be ok, too, right?
Not a bad idea, but I think South Park did something like this. It didn't turn out to well for Cartman.
Maybe they could request that each runner in the deceased individual's favorite event is sprinkled with the ashes. That way, the deceased gets a chance to participate/win. I mean, why would anyone care - it's just a few ashes.
This is so dumb.
Xanax wrote:
A rational person wrote:When the jumpers get some in their mouth yum yum burnt human.
It's totally rational to enjoy jumping into a pit full of dead humans.
See, perfectly illustrative example of an irrational reaction.
Why are calcium phosphates so much worse than silicon dioxide? They contain no organic compounds and aren't toxic.
Not no organic compounds, they contain some organic material for sure (where the meaning of organic is materials containing carbon).
Carbonates from a dead person. Nice. Yum yum.
Would you eat your parents ashes? Mr Rational?
Styu wrote:
It's pretty reasonable to think that some athletes and spectators would be uncomfortable with that. I don't think it needs any more explanation than that.
^This is the answer. Not everything a dead or dying person or their family requests needs to be honored. Ridiculous to support this.
A rational person wrote:
Not no organic compounds, they contain some organic material for sure (where the meaning of organic is materials containing carbon).
Carbonates from a dead person. Nice. Yum yum.
Would you eat your parents ashes? Mr Rational?
Carbonates as well as CO2 are specifically excepted from the list of organic compounds. Look it up.
Anyways, no I probably wouldn't eat them, but I also would not eat sand, so there's not really a point to be made there.