Alberto coaching Rupp for Oregon?

"People were saying that Tyson was just a puppet and that Alberto was going to be pulling the strings. Most of the Tyson backers said that Tyson is a great coach and that he would never allow that to happen. The current situation with Rupp shows one thing. IT IS HAPPENING"

Never allow it to happen? How can he stop it as a volunteer coach who just started? If he wants to stick around he has to allow it.

Oregon's own compliance officer stated the following in the Register-Guard. "Clever said NCAA rules would allow Rupp's parents to hire Salazar as a private coach, though any workouts conducted by Salazar could not be held in conjunction with team workouts."

Salazar is opening another can of worms by showing up for practice.

This begs the question, why doesn't Rupp just stay in Portland and train under Salazar? I really, really want to go to Oregon and be part of the team, except for the part where I have a different coach.

Remember Jua.. Cruz coached by De Olivaria. He was a gold metal winner in the 84 games and he was a member of Bill D. track team. By the way we didn't do any of his type of workouts. My point is Al coaching a seperate athlete is not unpresidented; besides Alberto was the man in Eugene in the 80s and will be welcomed by many.

Oregon has one volunteer coaching position currently available because Mark Vanderville is a vault coach. That is a recent change to the NCAA limitations. The reasoning behind that change grounded on safety concerns.

At the moment Salazar is still just a private coach for Rupp. He could also become a Duck volunteer coach. Either way, there is no NCAA violation on this particular subject.

OTC, you need to do your homework in regards to NCAA volunteer coaching limitations. You're making a fool of yourself Buddy.

OTC,

Thanks for making our argument and bitches valid!

"you guys are making assumptions about a situation where you don't know details. Salazar is not coaching the UO team, he is going to be working with Rupp. Tyson is also going to be working with Rupp, but Salazar will be at team practices a few days a week to work strictly with Galen Rupp. Tyson agreed that it would be a good situation because of the level that Galen is at if he stuck with the same workouts. You guys like to make a problem out of nothing. And a team can have as many volunteer coaches as they like, because volunteer means they are not being paid. They can only have a certain number of official paid coaches. This is not a mess, but keep thinking like that if you want to, when you dont even know the situation other than what you read on here. And please stop slamming UO, Salazar, Tyson, and whoever else. Thanks."

Your points:

1. "Salazar is NOT coaching the UO team." (Our point - then get the hell out of UO. He is not a UO coach and he has no right there.)

2. "Tyson agreed that it would be a good situation because the level that Galen is at if he stuck with the same workouts." (Our point - God I love that one! Wow, the egotistical and insulting attitude that comes across in this one is truly amazing. So tell us how do you think Eric Logsdon and the other UO athletes feel about not being good enough to workout with Galen because he is so much better than them? Talk about a slap in their face! Do you think they could be insulted any more?)

3. "Because of the level that Galen is at." (Our point - what level is that? He hasn't run faster than the top guys in the NCAA. He is NOT some super athlete that is above all the others. He is NOT as good as Ritz and Ritz got beat in track. Who does this group think they are? And do you think Galen is above all his teammates and the rest of the NCAA that he can get special treatment over his other teammates. He really wants to be a part of the team. Well, actions speak louder than words, and their actions stink!

Indoors, Galen wouldn't have even been the top 3k/5k guy on the team, log=7:54 rupp=7:58 log=13:49 rupp=14:08.

This message boards sounds like a bunch of bitter ex-wives. Galen may have had/has special treatment, but I for one could care less. He's a special talent and I'm not going to get as bent out of shape as most of you over an extra pair of shoes and a different coach. After all, it’s just running. It would be nice to hear some positive remarks from this message board, but I won’t keep my fingers crossed.

Oregon Track is currently a three ring circus. Anyone who sends their child to this setup would be out of his\her mind. What a JOKE. I feel for the kids on the team right now who were setup for a pretty good outdoor season. This is exactly why Martin stepped aside and didn't let this happen under his watch. Whether you like Martin or not he was smart to not let this happen under his when he was the coach. This doesn't bode well for anyone taking Tyson serious unfort. Perhaps we should just call Oregon CARNIVALE!!! If your not familar with this series that was on HBO you can read about it here

http://www.hbo.com/carnivale/about/index.shtml

Enjoy.

I don't agree. Oregon wants to build a team or so they say that's what they want. This is NOT about a team. Regardless of what anyone is saying to the press having a private coach and running private workout 3 times a wk is not running for Oregon.

There will be no Vin at Oregon or any other respected DI coach for that matter. No one would put up with it! It splinters the team! I do believe Rupp should be able to run if NCAA competition is what he wants but you either do or don't you can't have it both ways. One fact: Oregon is the only school that would have allowed such a total lack of disrespect for the University and teammates. Do the duck fans want a powerhouse track team (which I have never seen but heard Oregon once was-don't murder me if I'm wrong there) or do they just want back a dead Pre.

All I know is that if I were one of the guys on the Oregon team already, I'd probably be like, what the hell is he doing here? As for the workout thing - it totally would make me feel like, what the hell am I doing this workout for if Galen is doing different ones? He's the second coming of Prefontaine and is doing different workouts than us - then what are we doing? Talk about team camaraderie. Look, nobody is pissed at Rupp and Salazar for their supposed quest to bring back U.S. distance running to prominence. That's great, its just that this whole situation just sucks. If we wants to continue being coached by Al, then he shouldn't be running Oregon when his "teammates" aren't being coached by Al.

you guys are really rude you know that. This is ridiculous. You still don't know the situation there, so stop. Besides, Salazar showed up with Galen Rupp when he came down just to meet the team and get settled and everything. You guys take so much out of context. Nothing has said that Salazar will be conducting his coaching at official UO practices. But you guys love to assume, and slam. To answer another question, alot of colleges have unofficial volunteers who just like to help out. They are not recognized in any official capacity and also have no obligation either. This does not go against NCAA rules. Stop being rude. The point made about Galen Rupp and his using his own coach has nothing to do with his talent vs other peoples. It has to do with the training he has been doing for the past 4 years, and it has put him on a great path. What has been realized is that any coach is going to have a different method of doing things and right now, Rupp and Tyson and Salazar all see it as a good idea not to disrupt the plan that he is on. It has nothing to do with other people not being good enough to train with him. But he seeks to be advised by his longtime coach and friend Salazar. He will be working with the team, as well as being advised by Salazar on top of that. This is getting ridiculous. All many of you are doing is just tearing people down. I hope you feel good about it.

"This is getting ridiculous. All many of you are doing is just tearing people down. I hope you feel good about it."

Ah, yes. That's what this message board is all about. Jealousy, anger, hatred, mean-spirited attacks. All behind the shield of an annonomous screen name. Some people just need to vent their frustrations, and what better place than the boiling pot of insults that is the letsrun message board. Its too bad that reasonable people like yourself can't just have a intelligent discussion without all of the insults.

OTC,

You need to READ the Oregon release on the front page of let's run. You also need to reread my post. I have nothing but respect for Rupp and I said nothing but positive things about him. You need to look at my points and tell me how I am wrong.

Someone yesterday corrected a post stating that Rupp wasn't good enough to be pro. I don't know if he is or not but every other hs athlete leaves their hs coach at home. El G was the world jr champ and he listened to his US college coach. Why should any athlete regardless of their times, 13:45 or 16:45 do any different?

Do you think we'll see the same type of derision in this situation as we did the Webb/Warhurst/Raczko situation? Granted, the specifics are a little different, but in my opinion this seems like a "too many chefs spoil the broth" deal.

OTC wrote:

Nothing has said that Salazar will be conducting his coaching at official UO practices. But you guys love to assume, and slam. To answer another question, alot of colleges have unofficial volunteers who just like to help out. They are not recognized in any official capacity and also have no obligation either. This does not go against NCAA rules.

OTC, there is no such thing as an "unofficial volunteer coach". All college programs are required to have a list of volunteer coaches. A volunteer coach is any person that attends any of the teams practices.

Regarding Alberto not attending the OU team practices, then that means Rupp will not be training with the OU team. Isn't that "special"?

El G listening to his US college coach? Did I miss something?

OTC, who are you? Maybe Alberto? One things is for sure. You are one misinformed, clueless, idiot.

To quote OTC “To answer another question, alot of colleges have unofficial volunteers who just like to help out. They are not recognized in any official capacity and also have no obligation either. This does not go against NCAA rules. Stop being rude.”

I guess that if pointing out inaccurate statements you are making regarding the rules is rude then I am guilty.

Once again you either misinformed or uneducated regarding NCAA rules. NCAA programs cannot have unofficial volunteers who just like to help out, as you put it. If they are doing so they are violating NCAA rules. I’m not saying that schools aren’t doing it; but your statement about it not being against the rules in wrong.