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wejo wrote:That's 12K per hour flying? Do you pay for the downtime? I hadn't thought about this but what if we Charter a jumbo jet to fly to world XC in Uganda leave from somewhere in the east coast in the US but leave it in Uganda for say three days then fly back? What if it sat there for a week?
You can do this for $48,900 on a small prop plane or $401,390 for a large airliner
http://www.privatefly.com/private-jet-charter/estimate-prices.html?flightSearch=3359083
I just did the around the world one on the same site.
It's only coming to $675,000 (and that's if I fly them back to LA after it's over. which only had 40,000 to the total) . They've got to get to South America on their own and it doesn't count the Antartic flight.
Wouldn't you need multiple sets of pilots who have worked together?
Precious Roy wrote:
A 757 is about $12k an hour. They have over 30 competitors and probably an equal amount of supporters and crew. That means the group is too big for a typical corporate charter like a Gulfstream. And most of the legs on the route are too long for a smaller Airbus or Embraer. The budget buster is probably the plane to Antarctica. They have to fly on a special plane that can land on ice and that has all sorts of special de-icing systems and wind reinforcements.
They don't land on Antarctica. My friend ran there a few years ago and he flew to Argentina and took a boat to Antarctica and got shuttled in for the race. I'm sure researchers and stuff are allowed to fly in there, but they want to keep it as pristine as possible. My buddy said everything they took from the boat to the run they had to take back onto the boat, nothing at all was left behind. They also had to wash off their equipment both before and after they went there. It's a very regulated area.
I'd assume it's not the same plane for the entire race - maybe the same type of aircraft, but not the same plane throughout. It could be, but it would probably make sense not to have the same plane/crew logistically speaking. And you definitely wouldn't have the same pilots the entire time. If it was in the US, the FAA would flip out about the lack of rest time.
Like everything in life, the cost of a jet charter of a mid-sized transcontinental aircraft (B767, A330?) is negotiable, but a good guess is $10k/hour (from gate to gate). I'm assuming that a cost to put something like this together, airfare alone, is $500k (assuming 50 flight hours). To/from Antarctica is a whole 'nother story, since they don't have a large airport for you to land at. It's important to note that major airlines do charters - it's how sports teams get around.
Based on the itinerary, this is what I'd do - charter the Punta Arenas to Colombia to Miami leg on LATAM, Miami to Lisbon on AA, Lisbon to Marrakech is an easy one (short distance), then use Emirates to schlep you from Marrakech to Dubai to Jakarta, then Qantas or whoever.
I honestly don't envy any of the runners. This doesn't sound like fun at all.
oh please wrote:
Iron Maiden uses a 747 for touring. It cannot be so expensive outside of actual flying time. I know they're popular and all, but not so popular they could pay 12k/hr even for downtime and not have it be an issue.
Do they not own the plane?
they run fast ok wrote:
That is for bored rich people that can't run fast or they are a "has been. "
True. But we can all be a little impressed that muscle man and retired runner Hall just ran 3:26 and 3:06. This is off of an "8 mile long run" in training.
Let's see what Miami holds for those tired legs.
RvaRunner wrote:
wejo wrote:The challenge costs 36,000 Euros ($38,600) and there are 32 people running it. That comes to $1.23 million.
You know me wrote:
Explain this?
32 x $38,600 = $1.235 Million.
So what is the 32 and the $38,600? Explain?
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Is that a really smart idea???
Answer:
This is why Ryan got lost in the woods during his last half-marathon race.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BNpJDTmgHLz/
http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2012/04/protein-drinks/index.htm
The same thing happened to some other guy who failed to break 3 hours in his "special" marathon race... after his NYC marathon race... because he also has brain damage.
That is not a surprise.
I heard a rumor that wejo and rojo drink 10 gallons of Muscle Milk per person... every single day…365 days per year.
It is just a coincidental rumor.
Long way from home wrote:
wejo wrote:The world marathon challenge is underway and they fly everywhere by charter jet.
On our weekly call we started wondering what that costs. It can't be cheap.
Aviation guys- what sort of plane is required for this and how much would it cost?
The challenge costs 36,000 Euros ($38,600) and there are 32 people running it. That comes to $1.23 million.
Do all athletes pay or are the likes of Hall and Wardian comped?
No, no one is comped for the event. Wardian had received some money from sponsors and donors, Hall the same. Notice Wardian talking about his newest sponsor, T-Mobile.
wejo wrote:
The world marathon challenge is underway and they fly everywhere by charter jet.
On our weekly call we started wondering what that costs. It can't be cheap.
Aviation guys- what sort of plane is required for this and how much would it cost?
The challenge costs 36,000 Euros ($38,600) and there are 32 people running it. That comes to $1.23 million.
I am sure it cost more than $38,600, the Antarctica leg is probably over $15,000 by itself. Also, there is only a brief window where planes can fly into Antarctica and even doing that period, the opportunity to fly is a day-to-day decision and the planes are cargo planes. The person I know who did the Antarctica Marathon had to take 3 flights to get to the southern tip of South American and then used a Russian trawler to get to Antarctica. The marathon only accepted a couple dozen entries and you pay a couple hundred bucks (non-refundable) just to get on the list. The person I know did it over 10 years ago, it might be cheaper now or perhaps cost more. Btw, the marathon is really-really difficult, most people end up walking at some point.
btownrunnin wrote:
They don't land on Antarctica. My friend ran there a few years ago and he flew to Argentina and took a boat to Antarctica and got shuttled in for the race. .... It's a very regulated area.
Yes, they do land aircraft on Antarctica for this race as well as a few other races.
Have you ever been to Antarctica, or do you just have a friend who you live vicariously through?
the world marathon challenge has to be the dumbest idea ever. They don't even run real races... it's a bunch of thrown together 26.2 mile courses. stupid
Oregon born wrote:
oh please wrote:Iron Maiden uses a 747 for touring. It cannot be so expensive outside of actual flying time. I know they're popular and all, but not so popular they could pay 12k/hr even for downtime and not have it be an issue.
Do they not own the plane?
They do not own the plane. They lease the plane for a tour.
bigbigbg wrote:
the world marathon challenge has to be the dumbest idea ever. They don't even run real races... it's a bunch of thrown together 26.2 mile courses. stupid
You probably do have a good grasp on dumb ideas, but exactly how do you define a real race? Isn't a foot race just people running on a course of a prescribed distance.
The NYC marathon got started by just throwing together a course and running around Central Park. I believe the drop out rate exceeded 50%.
Karl Meltzer said 6 figures to do Green Tunnel, aka AT Trail.
Could be same or less, if pilots want work and are sitting around,?waiting for work.
As to critical poster, "bored rich ppl"
No, wrong, non-victim hood ppl
Successful ppl
Ppl that don't sleep
There's a life insurance policy involved, trust me.
I talked to Wardian about doing this event (seriously)....The price doesn't include you getting to Chile to start...and it also doesn't include your airfare home from Australia...so total cost is probably more like $41-42k (but hey what's a few thousand more at that point!) if coming from the US.
TrackCoach wrote:
wejo wrote:The world marathon challenge is underway and they fly everywhere by charter jet.
On our weekly call we started wondering what that costs. It can't be cheap.
Aviation guys- what sort of plane is required for this and how much would it cost?
The challenge costs 36,000 Euros ($38,600) and there are 32 people running it. That comes to $1.23 million.
I am sure it cost more than $38,600, the Antarctica leg is probably over $15,000 by itself. Also, there is only a brief window where planes can fly into Antarctica and even doing that period, the opportunity to fly is a day-to-day decision and the planes are cargo planes. The person I know who did the Antarctica Marathon had to take 3 flights to get to the southern tip of South American and then used a Russian trawler to get to Antarctica. The marathon only accepted a couple dozen entries and you pay a couple hundred bucks (non-refundable) just to get on the list. The person I know did it over 10 years ago, it might be cheaper now or perhaps cost more. Btw, the marathon is really-really difficult, most people end up walking at some point.
This is untrue , you are referring to an entirely different event called Triple 7 Quest which failed to do it in 7 days. The World Marathon Challenge starts in Antarctica and does not try to finish there.