Blah Blah. wrote:
Since Kazi Sherpa is also a Sherpa do people refer to him as:
Kazi Sherpa Sherpa?
Major major major major
Blah Blah. wrote:
Since Kazi Sherpa is also a Sherpa do people refer to him as:
Kazi Sherpa Sherpa?
Major major major major
Sherpa is an ethnicity that became shorthand for mountain guide because the Himalayan guides are mostly from that ethnicity. In some of the small mountain villages where the Sherpas come from, babies were named for the day of the week on which they were born (so only seven names). Sherpa is tacked on as a last name by others because they otherwise wouldn't have one. When Kathmandu suddenly became a big city, there were thousands of people living there with the same few names.
nervous nellie wrote:
Is any one else afraid Killian might die? Everest is much more serious than what he's done before, and he's basically just trying to run up it in shorts, right?
Ha! I'm hoping that you're joking. No, he's wearing a bit more than shorts. Actually, special made Salomon gear made specifically for the attempt (clothes and lightweight boots). The possibility of death on Everest is definitely real. Poor choice to go this late in the season, in my somewhat limited knowledge of the Himalayas. Will also be using a nontraditional route. I would doubt that he makes past 24k ft, especially given his performance on Elbrus.
I doubt Killian will ever run a regular Marathon, he is a mountain man, he has some crazy mountain running skills and endurance. He is certainly one the best ultra-runner over mountains going around right now.
He is doing Everest with a team of 4, some guys who know Everest very well, but is doing it light and fast (how he does everything). All his FKT's are from the last inhabited spot, in this case a Monastery but that's just his thing, I doubt two attempts can be compared easily.
They are making a video, so should make for interesting viewing if they succeed.
Well said, KJ.
Killian is an idiot for thinking he can summit Everest without oxygen and fixed ropes and it will be his first time above 8000 m. Killian is a newb with no skill.
Fast and light is what Kelly James and crew did on Mt Hood.
It is basically gambling with your life.
James and crew didn't want to overnight and got caught in a storm that didn't let up for over a week.
However, it sounds like Kilian understands the risks and accepts them. The hardest part is putting your family through the stress. You almost have to be single to be a mountaineer.
Mt Hood is an easy hike compared to Everest. I am willing to bet Rojo's entire fortune that Killian will die on Everest from his hubris. He is basically just dick waving on his website and bragging about how he will do it when in reality he will be dead if he follows through with his idiotic ideas and lack of experience.
And all I see is him talking about going up with no oxygen, inadequate equipment, and no fixed ropes all in like 8 hours. If the hypoxia, hypothermia, or slipping on ice doesn't kill him going up, they sure as hell will kill him going down. Going up is easy, going down is where most people get killed. And he has no plan for going down.
Nailed it.
Superior Intellect wrote:
And all I see is him talking about going up with no oxygen, inadequate equipment, and no fixed ropes all in like 8 hours. If the hypoxia, hypothermia, or slipping on ice doesn't kill him going up, they sure as hell will kill him going down. Going up is easy, going down is where most people get killed. And he has no plan for going down.
Superior Intellect wrote:
Mt Hood is an easy hike compared to Everest.
Yes, but the north face of Hood they were doing is more technical than the standard Everest climb.
Agreed, I don't see this attempt succeeding. Why not bring some O2?
Killian has spent his whole life in the mountains. I will take his experience over the limited knowledge of people who have never been in the mountains.
Totally ignorant about ultra running but would people like mo farah, bekele, Haile, etc. beat the ultra runners in their competitions doing their normal training?
Kilian does things like this all the time for fun, i don't think he's lacking in technical skill.
arandomwalk wrote:
Totally ignorant about ultra running but would people like mo farah, bekele, Haile, etc. beat the ultra runners in their competitions doing their normal training?
There are all types of ultras. Could they do well in a flat 50 miler? Probably. Could they do well in the 105 mile UTMB mountain race? Not without specific training.
He's Really Slow wrote:
dumoulin wrote:I think Jornet could run a pretty decent marathon, maybe around 2,14?
Maybe around 2:54.
No way to either of you. Jurek's PR is 2:38. Jornet is probably better than Jurek. I'd guess he could run 2:30 low to 2:20 mid to high. Still, this Everest business is dumb. He'll be lucky to not die if he actually goes through with it.
umnonotatall wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-NrLIBoUOMKilian does things like this all the time for fun, i don't think he's lacking in technical skill.
Kilian's training mate already died on the mountains.
It's a very strong possibility that he won't be making it back.
Doing ANYTHING above 20k ft is difficult, never mind adding technical aspects. Piling on a "push" sans o2 and ropes is a recipe for disaster.
minong wrote:
Why... is it winter? wrote:Monsoon season. Almost as bad as winter.
Messner true solo'd it (nobody anywhere on mountain) on August 20, 1980, during a brief weather window (4-5 days?) of the monsoon season. He planned it that way for the true solo aspect and the easier climbing on fresh snow (after a day or two to let avalanches shake out) as sometimes it can cover up trickier rock sections. I could be wrong but I thought monsoon season typically fizzles at the end of August, usually leaving decent conditions in September.
The north side routes eliminate the icefall/crevasse issues prevalent on the south side, so they got that going for them. I surely hope he chooses the Norton couloir over the Hornbein, which is seldom used and does not seem conducive to solo speed climbing. Pretty sure Messner was the first to complete the Norton to the summit - used it to deftly avoid the 2nd step.
Yes, his book, The Crystal Horizon, is a good one.
Not so easy wrote:
umnonotatall wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-NrLIBoUOMKilian does things like this all the time for fun, i don't think he's lacking in technical skill.
Kilian's training mate already died on the mountains.
It's a very strong possibility that he won't be making it back.
That was June 2012 in an attempted speed traverse across a dicey set of peaks and knife edge ridges from the Italian side of Mt Blanc over to the Chamonix side. It was small/fast group (of 4, I think, just like now), and his friend led out across a knife edge cornice of snow/ice, which broke off resulting in a ~3000' fall (terminal). Would have been Killian or any one of the others had they led out. Sad, but not sure what it has to do with this expedition? If anything, I would surely hope very hard lessons were learned resulting in a more cautious approach, or at least heightened awareness of conditions. Anyone who does not learn from their own mistakes is indeed doomed to repeat them, but I'll give Killian benefit of the doubt and assume he does.