Why is Rupp wasting his time with the Marathon?

Dogen wrote:

ZenDudeist wrote:

Ad hominem. Completely irrelevant.

There is nothing Zen about you.

Nor you, so we both are.

Why do you think he has no chance in the 10k? He's one of the top 5 10k runners in the world at worst... on the day the race is run, maybe he'll find himself in the top 3.

ZenDudeist wrote:

Dogen wrote:

There is nothing Zen about you.

Nor you, so we both are.

You are wrong grasshopper ego.

ZenDudeist wrote:

thejeff wrote:

Well, he is in the effing Olympics. What did YOU do today?

Ad hominem. Completely irrelevant.

Bullsh!t. By your standards, if you cannot win an Olympic medal, then anything you do is a waste of time. So, I ask again: What did you do today?

ZenDudeist wrote:

thejeff wrote:

But, mainstream Americans care way more about the Marathon than they do about the 10,000m. Most Americans care about the 100-400m and the marathon, and nothing in between.

Again, completely irrelevant. What most Americans care about has nothing to do with Rupp's decision about which event to run.

You know way too may big words to be as idiotic as you are.

You think prestige has nothing to do with why the best distance runner in our country chose the events that he chose? What's your basis?

You are either a JV scrub or Rupp himself. Which is it?

thejeff wrote:

ZenDudeist wrote:

Ad hominem. Completely irrelevant.

Bullsh!t. By your standards, if you cannot win an Olympic medal, then anything you do is a waste of time. So, I ask again: What did you do today?

Your education has failed you. You should study reasoning. Try

thejeff wrote:

ZenDudeist wrote:

Again, completely irrelevant. What most Americans care about has nothing to do with Rupp's decision about which event to run.

You know way too may big words to be as idiotic as you are.

You think prestige has nothing to do with why the best distance runner in our country chose the events that he chose? What's your basis?

You are either a JV scrub or Rupp himself. Which is it?

Medalling in one event is more prestigious than not medalling in two events. Prestige is not it either. Try again.

Do you realize that trials was his debut marathon and he CRUSHED it with no competition? Truth is, he did not go all out in that race so we don't know what he's capable of. I'd say he has a legitimate chance to medal.

If he crushed the trials marathon, he has no chance. His crushing effort is not even a top 25 time this year.

ZenDudeist wrote:

Discus != Discuss wrote:

While I appreciate your enthusiasm for field events, I don't think discus is in Rupp's future. Maybe Ryan Hall.

In case you are not aware, on LR, we misspell "discuss" on purpose.

Why? Is this some sort of in joke?

If Galen Rupp's name was Benjamin Kipruto (or something similar)--an East African who had a medal from the previous Olympics, had been in every 10k final since 2007 (World Champs and Olympics) and won his debut marathon, you would not be saying 'this dude could be the dark horse in either event.'

Look at past Olympic marathons, at how many neophytes have fared well. Each country gets only three entries, so the field is limited, there are no pacers--anything can and probably will happen. Look at the results of past Olympic marathons. Debutantes and newbies often do well.

ZenDudeist wrote:

He has no medal chance. Probably not even in the 10000 if he didn't do the marathon.

Discus.

He is a top five 10k runner in the world. I believe he has the fastest time in the world in the last 2 years, maybe? He also is the reigning silver medal winner. This is why he is running the 10k.

He will be a top 10 talent in this race due to the qualification process (2 Kenyans, 2 Eth, etc). More so, the marathon is a crap-shoot - Half of the favorites end up dropping out. He is currently transitioning from a track runner to a road runner and looking to make a name for himself as a marathon runner - what better place than the Olympics? This race guarantees him quite the marathon paycheck down the road. The marathon is AFTER the 10k. Salazar and Rupp feel as if the new training won't ruin his 10k ability. This is why he is running the marathon.

Any more dumb questions?

Ashenden wrote:

If Galen Rupp's name was Benjamin Kipruto (or something similar)--an East African who had a medal from the previous Olympics, had been in every 10k final since 2007 (World Champs and Olympics) and won his debut marathon, you would not be saying 'this dude could be the dark horse in either event.'

Look at past Olympic marathons, at how many neophytes have fared well. Each country gets only three entries, so the field is limited, there are no pacers--anything can and probably will happen. Look at the results of past Olympic marathons. Debutantes and newbies often do well.

Noobs have done well, so Rupp can medal.

Not a very good effort. You must need some sleep. Before you get your much needed rest, how about backing up your "debutantes and newbies" claim with some real data. And make sure by "do well", you mean medal. Otherwise, your argument is vacuous in the current context.

Ashenden wrote:

If Galen Rupp's name was Benjamin Kipruto (or something similar)--an East African who had a medal from the previous Olympics, had been in every 10k final since 2007 (World Champs and Olympics) and won his debut marathon, you would not be saying 'this dude could be the dark horse in either event.'

Look at past Olympic marathons, at how many neophytes have fared well. Each country gets only three entries, so the field is limited, there are no pacers--anything can and probably will happen. Look at the results of past Olympic marathons. Debutantes and newbies often do well.

And there's the heat and humidity factor thrown in. I recall Korean and Japanese runners doing well in those conditions, maybe they handle it well. But expect AlSal and Rupp to be right on top of that.

In the 10km - if the Kenyans try to take it out hard to burn off Mo, why can't they fall apart and Rupp come through? It is certainly not impossible that Rupp could medal in either.

And good on him for having a go. AlSal will be loving the crack at the marathon and will have him primed to the best of his abilities.

Rupp does not have a top 25 time this year in the 10000.

ZenDudeist wrote:

thejeff wrote:

You know way too may big words to be as idiotic as you are.

You think prestige has nothing to do with why the best distance runner in our country chose the events that he chose? What's your basis?

You are either a JV scrub or Rupp himself. Which is it?

Medalling in one event is more prestigious than not medalling in two events. Prestige is not it either. Try again.

You said he wouldn't medal even if he dropped one. You try again, scrub.

thejeff wrote:

ZenDudeist wrote:

Medalling in one event is more prestigious than not medalling in two events. Prestige is not it either. Try again.

You said he wouldn't medal even if he dropped one. You try again, scrub.

Keep your arguments straight. I'm pointing out a flaw in your argument, so I'm assuming your argument's premises.

Really, go read the book. Life is much better when you can reason.

Karma Police wrote:

ZenDudeist wrote:

In case you are not aware, on LR, we misspell "discuss" on purpose.

Why? Is this some sort of in joke?

Yes. Welcome to the inner circle. You earned it.

Zen is an idiot, but not because of his spelling. It was likely intentional.

thejeff wrote:

Well, he is in the effing Olympics. What did YOU do today?

This. And getting paid very well to do it. You keyboard warriors are pathetic.