Sorry, Lynn Jennings was much better than Regina ever was or will be and nobody ever had reason to question her integrity.
Sorry, Lynn Jennings was much better than Regina ever was or will be and nobody ever had reason to question her integrity.
Jacobs may be more decorative, but Decker-Tabb-Slaney was the best American Female Distance Runner ever. If not for her countless injuries she would have...
I think we should demand that our governing body should test Jacobs. I mean it seems that everybody else is slowly cracking down in some way. I think the U.S should do it too. A nice clean sweep!!
USATF & USADA do test, they just subvert any positives from the stars.
So by the logic of your madness: Suzy, Mary, Lynn, and Regina all could be drug users! The outcome still stands they were all great, but Regina is still the most accomplished as for as U.S. titles and World/Olympic medals!
Actually, Mary has already been shown to be one. Her links with AlSal and AW don't help her cause any, either. Suzy and Lynn have never dodged major international competition where there will be doping controls, they ran/are running their best at their physical peaks, do not run peak times/record times early season in meets where doping controls are either suspect or nonexistent and then underperform, come down with illness, or make phony excuses for not running in late season/championship competitions. None of these suspicious circumstances have swirled around Lynn, Suzy, or Mary. So, unless you are saying that this is all one big coincidence and Regina is just too stupid to keep herself out of such suspicious circumstances, then this is what sets Regina apart from any other great female U.S. runners.
F/Y/I: Lynn has many more U.S. titles. Mary has more hardware.
Is it not "routine" for athletes to be tested after setting world records? I thought that was how Boulami was caught. Please correct me if I am mistaken. If this is not the case, then I think such an idea should be considered. If an athlete is clean, then he or she should have no reservations about giving a quick blood sample on the way out the door.
The Fine Print: I am not implying anything about Regina, I just thought this might be relevant to the thread.
Now like most runners I quit following the sport carefully after my career was over. But didn't Slaney try to make a comeback in the 90s and tested positive for something? I'm surprise no one has brought this up. I think Slaney's was greater than Jachobs. But if she tested positive for any banned substance her ENTIRE career is null and void in my eyes. Like Jachob's will be if she tests positive.
Apparently you weren't aware, Mary has already been shown to be a drug user. Her links with AlSal and AW didn't help her cause any, either.
No, Suzy and Lynn have not done any of the following: run records in meaningless early-season meets with questionable or no doping controls and then proceed to underperform, come down sick, or come up with some bullshit excuse for not running in late-season/major international championship races, dodge international competitions where doping controls could be a problem, run no records prior to age 30 and then run a slew of records after age 36, attack those who ask hard questions. If this is really all one huge coincidence that really means nothing, are you saying that Regina is simply too stupid to avoid this situation? Is Lynn or Suzy that much smarter for keeping her reputation above reproach?
F/Y/I: Lynn has way more U.S. titles (39) and more major international hardware (6) than Jacobs (21 & 4).
I'm very impressed by Regina's performances over the past 3 years, but am still suspicious of her unfortunate string of "bad luck" (injury and illness) prior to major international events. I've thought that it would be interesting for a statistician to do a quantitative analysis of the meets she has entered over the past 4 years based on the kind of drug testing done before/during/after the meet. Or, even, the kinds of substances tested for at each meet. Wonder whether any significant drug testing patterns would emerge.
I have no indication/information to think that Regina is "juiced," but her bad luck at the international level is suspicious.
Those who say Regina was dodging the competition have probably started following the sport 2 years ago.
Suzy never made it to a single major championship final until Sydney. And she basically dropped out of both Edmonton and Sydney, so her record of "dodging" is much more extensive than in Regina's case.
Regina has two silver medals from World Outdoor Champs, how many medals does Suzy have? Yes, she ran well in Euro circuit in 2001 and 2002, but what's her top finish in major international final? Here's her record:
1991 Worlds - did not reach finals
1992 Olympics - did not reach finals
1993 Worlds - skipped
1995 Worlds - did not reach finals
1996 Olympics - did not reach finals
1997 Worlds - did not reach finals
1999 Worlds - did not reach finals
2000 Olympics - 12th (dead last) in the final
2001 Worlds - DNF in semifinal
To sum up - made one final, where she finished in last place.
Compare this to Regina who got two silver medals outdoors, gold and bronze indoors, 22 national titles - indoors, outdoors, 800, 1500, 5000, XC - you name it. Suzy got only 6, by the way.
How can you even compare the two?
Regina's record is comparable to Lynn Jennings, who got
bronze at Olympics, silver and bronze indoors, 3 XC titles,
and 9 national titles. If you compare their track records, though (milers are at disadvantage in XC - how many cross titles ElG got?), Regina's gold and bronze indoors beats Lynn's silver and bronze, two silvers at worlds definitely beat a bronze at Olympics, and 22 titles is better than 9.
Mary Decker is a druggie from another era, and it's even more difficult to compare those two.
No disrespect to Francie Larieu, but she doesn't even come close to Regina or Lynn.
The verdict is in - Regina is THE most accomplished american distance runner over the past 15 years or so, with Lynn Jennings a close second. Can you can find someone who has more worlds/olympic medals, more national titles AND more world records? I don't think so.
She passed the same drug tests as everyone else, and she keeps passing them, which is enough evidence for me to declare her as clean as people she is racing against.
Question to Truth.com -
how much hardware does Mary have and how many more national titles does Lynn have compared to Regina?
Some of you guys really should brush up on the history of the sport before you make stupid-ass comments like that.
Boston dude: I already posted a correction as it is Jennings who has more hardware not Slaney. Somehow you missed it. Lynn J. has 39 national titles to Regina's 21 and she also has more hardware from major international championships: 6 vs 4. Jennings also has more international titles.
I agree completely, some guys, like both me and YOU, should brush up on the history of the sport before making stupid-ass comments.
Inquiring Minds; 3 Questions
1. Why did Regina not run the Olympics where there was EPO testing in the blood and urine?
2. Was there such testing at the Boston Indoors?
3. Is a World Indoor Record a record or should it be without Blood and Urine tesing?
Not stating any wrong doing here just interesting questions.
TT
Jennings medal haul: one Olympic bronze, two world indoor, five world cross (three gold, one silver, one bronze) for a total of 8 international medals. Eight! Three world championshi titles! And indoor medals gold or not do not rival an Olympic bronze.
Jennings has a total of 39 national titles not nine. Nine national cross titles the others spread among road, indoor and outdoor track.
So Jennings has more international medals than Jacobs, more world titles than Jacobs and more national titles than Jacobs.
AND not a whisper of drug use about Jennings. Clean as the proverbial whistle. Can't say that about Jacobs.
Based on a historical pattern Reginald Jacobs will do the following in the next month:
1. Woo everybody at Millrose with a stellar performance
2. Woo everybody at Nationals with more records.
3. Get selected for the World Indoors
4. Come down with another mysterious virus and pull out of the world team.
It's a pity USATF were not forced to reveal the names of those that tested positive before the 2000 Olympics.
If Regina was blonde, likeable, get a boob job, pose for playboy, and got rid of her talking poodle and acquired her medals by defeating tough competition; then yes maybe she would be the greatest.
There is no indoor world record for 2 miles.
Vipam wrote:
The best way to measure the success of a great runner is by
their medal count and Regina has won more individual medals than any other female distance runner!
Indoors
1500m
1995 Gold-Worlds
3000m
1999 Silver-Worlds
Outdoors
1500m
1997 Silver-Worlds
1998-Silver-Goodwill Games
1999-Silver-Worlds
Indoors World Records
2 miles-2002
1500m-2003
Countless Americans records, 11 outdoors 1500m titles and have added an 800m and 5000m US Championship title! First sub 4 minute 1500m by a female, first female to break all three magical barriers for the 800m-2 minutes, 1500m-4 minutes, and 5000m-15 minutes! Regina may have the largest fan base in America; however, she is the most successful and Incomparable in respect to her range. SHE HAS EARNED HER PLACE AS ONE OF THE BEST FEMALE DISTANCE RUNNERS EVER!
Vipam